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ChevyK10Dan 11-11-2021 10:30 PM

Lots of NP205 New Process 205 Parts
 
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I'm cleaning up the garage, and decided to see if there's any interest in my NP205 spare parts. All parts are used.

Buyer to pay shipping costs. I work 40-60 hrs a week, so it might take me a couple days to get the parts shipped. Most items will fit in a USPS flat rate box, and I will combine shipping when possible.

Prices will probably seem high, but these are genuine New Process parts and are getting hard to find.

Please post interest in item(s) on the thread so I'll have a clear order to follow in case there's multiple people interested in the same item. We'll continue with PM's afterwards.

Earliest buyers get choice of part(s) if I have multiple of the same item.

Paypal or US Postal money order for payment.
PayPal fees are included, but NOT shipping fees.
If paying with a Postal money order, I'll reduce the price by the PayPal fees (2.9% plus $0.30).

I'm not in need of any trades, but will consider '58-59 GMC specific parts, '55-59 Chevy/GMC parts, or '60-66 Chevy/GMC parts or '55-57 Chevy car/wagon parts depending what you have.

Additional pics available. The pics are reduced to meet the max size allowed on the forum, and don't show as much detail. I can email or text higher resolution pics to someone after they post interest in a part.

At this time, I don't have any TH400 large bore cases, 32 spline input gears, or TH400 adapters; it's been over 5 years since I've seen a 205 in the wrecking yard so I don't think I'll stumble across any, but will post if I do.

Parts List (I'll list the bulk of it) I might not list everything, so if there's a specific part(s) you need feel free to ask.

GM NP205 Shifter
(All chrome shifters need to be rechromed, all painted shifters need to be cleaned and repainted)
1967-72 (I don't remember which year) used with the 4 speed manual trans - $175
1967-72 (I don't remember which year) used with the automatic trans - SOLD
1973+ cast shifter without grease zerk - $110
1973+ cast shifter with grease zerk - $120
1980+ two piece welded shifter - $150

Shift Knobs various condition - $15 to $40 depending on condition

Shifter pivot bolt
Without grease zerk - $35
With grease zerk - $40

Shifter S-link - $40

Shift rail joint linkage/bracket - $20

If you need a complete shifter package (i.e. all you have are bare shift rails at the transfer case) I'll work with you on a package deal.

Shift fork - $15
Shift ring - $15

Shifter boot (pretty nice for used) with retaining ring and NP205 or NP203 shift pattern plate - $60

Shifter boot retaining ring and NP205 or NP203 shift pattern plate (no boot) - $30

Large shifter boot retaining ring (no boot or plate) - $20

32 spline fixed rear output shaft pre 1973 style with compression fit speedometer drive gear and shim (included) bare otherwise - $90
32 spline fixed rear output shaft 1973+ style (bare) -$110
32 spline slip rear output shaft (bare) - $100

10 spline front output shaft (bare) - $50
30 spline front output shaft (bare) - $75
32 spline front output shaft (bare) - $100

10 spline yoke - $30
30 spline yoke - $35
32 spline yoke - $40

30 spline four bolt flange - $100
32 spline four bolt flange - $100

Output large gear - $50
Output small gear - $40

Idler gear - $50
Idler shaft - $20

GM Speedometer driven gear (metal) your choice of tooth count - $40
Dodge/International one piece speedometer driven gear (metal) your choice of tooth count - $125

GM Speedometer driven gear retainer - $20

GM rear output cast housing (bare) - $75
Dodge/International rear output cast housing (bare) - $75

Rear output aluminum bearing retainer (5 bolt holes) - $40
Front output aluminum bearing retainer (4 bolt holes) - $30

Front output aluminum access cover/retainer - $20

PTO cover plate - $12

TH350 to NP205 adapter with drive coupler - $250
SM465 to NP205 adapter with drive coupler - $225

Crossmember to Adapter bolts (pair) - $7

TH350 27 spline input gear - $60
SM465 10 spline input gear - $50

Bare divorced (Dodge or International) passenger drop main case with correct 32 spline divorced input shaft - $475

Discount available if you need multiple parts.

Daniel

ChevyK10Dan 11-11-2021 10:33 PM

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Gyrine 11-12-2021 12:38 AM

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Sir,
I will take a shifter pivot bolt with grease fitting and a shifter boot if you have one for 1969-72.

Please let me know how to pay.

Thanks
Rob

ChevyK10Dan 11-12-2021 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Gyrine (Post 8994663)
Sir,
I will take a shifter pivot bolt with grease fitting and a shifter boot if you have one for 1969-72.

Please let me know how to pay.

Thanks
Rob

PM sent.

Unfortunately I don't have any shifter boots for Pre 1973.

Thanks,
Daniel

Harold Holbrook 11-12-2021 03:20 PM

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1971 chevy blazer Shifter pivot bolt , With grease zerk - $40 shipped to 11530

ChevyK10Dan 11-13-2021 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Harold Holbrook (Post 8994892)
1971 chevy blazer Shifter pivot bolt , With grease zerk - $40 shipped to 11530

PM sent

Thanks,
Daniel

Dieselwrencher 11-13-2021 12:28 PM

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I will take a greaseable pivot bolt, and the lower left shift knob with the white around the black letters.

Do you happen to have any 71 or 72 4 Speed 4x4 shift handles?

ChevyK10Dan 11-13-2021 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 8995191)
I will take a greaseable pivot bolt, and the lower left shift knob with the white around the black letters.

Do you happen to have any 71 or 72 4 Speed 4x4 shift handles?

I'll mark you down for the pivot bolt, but will let you decide on the knob:
The threads are 3/8-24 (fine) instead of the more common (1973+) 7/16-20 (fine).
I don't remember if I removed it from a GM truck or if it was from a Dodge, International or Furd, but it could have been any of them.

UPDATE: it appears this style was used on Furd (NP205 & Dana 24) from 1959-77.

The knob has been repainted at some point (the white looks more cream color) and done rather poorly in my opinion. The knob has a fair bit of wear on it as well, and a small chunk removed on the bottom where it threads to the shifter.

If you're still interested I'd take $10 for it, and it would ship at no additional cost with the bolt.

I found the one shifter I have for a 4-speed, but I believe I removed it from a 1973+ 4x4 (larger dia then the earlier ones?). I could be wrong (I haven't messed with this stuff in years) so if there's a quick way to ID I'll do my best to confirm.

Dieselwrencher 11-14-2021 12:21 AM

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I'm in on the knob. The 4 speed shifter looks like an 80s square body one nut I'm not certain.

ChevyK10Dan 11-14-2021 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 8995510)
I'm in on the knob. The 4 speed shifter looks like an 80s square body one nut I'm not certain.

PM Sent

jjzepplin 11-14-2021 07:33 AM

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If you have another one of those above shifter knobs I would be interested. Dieselwrencher beat me to it.

ChevyK10Dan 11-14-2021 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jjzepplin (Post 8995564)
If you have another one of those above shifter knobs I would be interested. Dieselwrencher beat me to it.

I don't believe I do, but I am still sorting thru stuff (I believe I've pretty much uncovered all the 205 stuff, unless I have a box I forgot about) as I clean and organize. If I happen to dig one up I'll let you know.

Daniel

Nate781 11-15-2021 08:59 AM

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I'll take NP205 transfer case shifter 71-72 K5 and an S Link please. let me know how i can pay you. thanks

ChevyK10Dan 11-15-2021 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Nate781 (Post 8996009)
I'll take NP205 transfer case shifter 71-72 K5 and an S Link please. let me know how i can pay you. thanks

I'll send a PM.

Thanks,
Daniel

ChevyK10Dan 11-15-2021 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate781 (Post 8996009)
I'll take NP205 transfer case shifter 71-72 K5 and an S Link please. let me know how i can pay you. thanks

I've added a pic of the different sizes of S-links I have. I believe I've arranged them in order (Lt to Rt) from oldest to newest, but I don't know the exact year breakdown.
A - I know is pre 1973, and probably pre 1971, but I'm not sure
B - is somewhere around 1971, 72 or 73 to about mid-late 70's?
C - is somewhere in the late 70's or early 80's to about mid 80's?
D - is somewhere around mid to late 80's till they stopped using the 205? (It has a plastic bushing type connector on the TC side of the link.

Ford - unknown year but most likely '77 or older. It is definitely Ford since it is made for the driver's side drop TC.

I used to know all this stuff without thought, but it's been 10+ years and unfortunately I don't know the details like I used to.

I'd recommend "B" for your '71, it's probably the correct one, and the same length as "A" if it's not the correct one. It is also stronger than the flat plate style (A is actually 3 separate pieces, with the studs pressed into the plate, and I have one that has a stud missing.

"A" does have it's place for an exact restoration, for the early models that used it.

I'll follow up with a PM to make sure you get the one you want.

Thanks,
Daniel

ChevyK10Dan 11-20-2021 10:05 PM

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Shifter package #1

Includes:
Cast style grease-able shifter (was chrome but needs to be rechromed or painted)
Used shift knob, with the 4 wheels and box for a transfer case on it.

Non grease-able shifter pivot bolt
Used shifter bolt washer
New shifter bolt wavy washer (it's made in China, and the closest match I've found so far)

Your choice of S-Link (A, B, C or D) see post above
With new washers and new curved/spring washers (spring washers are made in US and seem to be a perfect match)

Shift rail connecting bracket/plate
Shift rail pins, and correct wire clips

Metal shifter ring. It's been repainted, some might run it like it is, and some might repaint.
Aluminum shifter location plate. It's been repainted, some might run it like it is, and some might repaint.

Package deal $225 shipped.

CUSTOM/10 11-21-2021 09:11 AM

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Hi Dan
Would you know what speedo gear count I would need for a truck with 3:73s and 33" tall tires ? ( and does the gear inside the out-put housing need to be changed at the same time ? )
Or
Do you have a speedometer ratio adapter that screws on where the speedometer cable goes that would correct my speedometer ?

Gary

ChevyK10Dan 11-21-2021 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CUSTOM/10 (Post 8998188)
Hi Dan
Would you know what speedo gear count I would need for a truck with 3:73s and 33" tall tires ? ( and does the gear inside the out-put housing need to be changed at the same time ? )
Or
Do you have a speedometer ratio adapter that screws on where the speedometer cable goes that would correct my speedometer ?

Gary

Hi Gary,
That is the same setup I run in my truck. I believe mine reads a little faster then actual speed. When I get home, I'll take a look at what gears I have in mine.
I do have several ratio adapter boxes as well.

I have the later output shaft that uses the red plastic gear (Has 7 teeth). If you have the early style with the metal gear, or a different color plastic gear (they are conveniently color coded) yours will be different than mine, but there's a couple websites I've seen to help calculate the gears needed.

Need to know:
Transmission or transfer case drive gear tooth count.
Axle gear ratio
Tire diameter

Then you can solve for: Transmission or transfer case driven tooth count.

One thing to note is the tire diameter can vary from manufacturer to manufacturer, so a 33" tire from one might be closer to 32", and another closer to 33.5". Also the amount of tread on the tire when new vs worn out (more so on mud or all terrain tires) will also affect the true diameter.

If you're able to to confirm the drive gear color, material or tooth count, I'll double check if mine has the 16 tooth driven gear the calculator recommends.

On a side note I'm lowering the price on the GM style driven gears to $40 ea (plus shipping) Still your choice in tooth count.

Thanks,
Daniel

ChevyK10Dan 11-21-2021 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CUSTOM/10 (Post 8998188)
Hi Dan
Would you know what speedo gear count I would need for a truck with 3:73s and 33" tall tires ? ( and does the gear inside the out-put housing need to be changed at the same time ? )
Or
Do you have a speedometer ratio adapter that screws on where the speedometer cable goes that would correct my speedometer ?

Gary

Gary,
According to a couple different speedometer calculators (internet search of "speedometer gear calculator" should bring up several to choose from) if you have the red 7 tooth plastic drive gear, 3.73 axle ratio and true 33" diameter tires you would need a driven gear with 15.94 teeth.
As far as I know the NP203 or 205 used in GM vehicles never had a 16 tooth speedometer gear (Dodge/international did, but the rear output housing is different). I have 18 to 22 tooth driven gears for GM.

If they make an 8 tooth plastic drive gear for GM then the 18 tooth would get you close.

Your best option is probably going to be a ratio box like you mentioned. Some transmission shops will custom make them for your exact (or as close as possible) ratio.

I do have several and could sell you one if I happen to have the ratio you need.

The best way to determine that would be drive the truck on the highway at 60 mph, (set cruise control if you have it) and have a passenger monitor your speed on their phone via an app, or simply using Google map directions (or similar). This will give you a GPS speed (assuming you have cell service etc). You will need to go long/far enough to have a steady reading on both your speedometer and GPS.

The GPS speed will be pretty close to actual speed (in my work trucks if I drive 67.5 mph per the speedometer, the GPS reads 65).
Use the GPS speed on your phone to determine the difference between what your speedometer reads and actual. This will be the ratio you need to adjust to get it to read correctly.

Note: if you have any type of ratio box already (doesn't sound like you do) you will need to remove it before attempting the process listed above.

After you determine that, I'll look thru the ratio boxes I have to see if there's anything close.

CUSTOM/10 11-21-2021 07:20 PM

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Hey Dan,

1st thank you for your time and effort....

My truck is a frame off resto-mod and isn't road ready yet, so the gps isn't possible at this time.

What I have currently is a H-18t and metal drive gear. I also have a stewart warner ratio box with 1.2020 ratio. (I also have a J=19t gear, spare )

I measured my tires, there more like 32" tall.
Do you believe any of what I have would be close ?
Or if you have a ratio box that would work better.

Thanks Gary

ChevyK10Dan 11-21-2021 08:53 PM

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Gary,
The metal drive gear has 6 teeth and you won't be able to change from that one unless you change the entire output shaft (not necessary).

With a 6 tooth drive gear, 3.73 gears and 32" tires, you would need 14.09 teeth on the driven gear. With your 1.2 ratio adapter it will help correct some, but I think it will still read slow on the speedometer.

Here's a thread that might be helpful for you to figure out the exact ratio. I can't open the spreadsheet on my phone so I'm not sure what it is, but seems helpful by other posts.

https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=656949

Keep in mind the math to figure everything out exactly is possible, but there could be variables not reflected in the math vs real world driving. If it were me, I'd wait to see how close it reads once it's road worthy and go from there. Even though gps is not perfect, it's still probably the best way to establish a baseline to calculate unless you took it to the trans shop that makes the gear ratio boxes.

If you're not able to use the spreadsheet, the author seems like the go to source to help you determine what ratio box you need.
If you are able to determine the ratio box you need let me know and I'll take a look at what I have, but waiting until you're able to drive it is also a legitimate option too.

CUSTOM/10 11-21-2021 09:25 PM

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Dan,
You've been a great help, and a wealth of knowledge, thank you !!!!!
I was hoping that with all your np205 parts you had what I needed.
But when we start modifying and mixing and matching oem parts don't always work...
When I get it on the road, I'll see where I stand and get a custom ratio box.

Thanks for your time !!!!
Gary

ChevyK10Dan 11-21-2021 10:38 PM

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You're welcome Gary,

I used to know more about all the ratios and gears, but it's not something I've messed with in several years. I was in the same boat as you when working on my own truck, and the math said what to use, but I'm still running a little fast at the speedometer. Part of that could be the almost 60 year old speedometer not being as accurate as modern gauges, or the 33" tires only having 35 psi makes for a shorter sidewall on the bottom half of the tires, etc.
Mine was supposed to be corrected, but is about 5 mph off, but I would rather it read a little fast then slow though.

Daniel

wesleytucker454 11-24-2021 08:03 AM

Hey Dan, I need the 1972 NP205 ID plate and screws shown in the cross post and a 1972 transfer case shift boot retainer ring if you have one? Thanks -Wes
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ChevyK10Dan 11-24-2021 11:44 PM

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Hey Dan, I need the 1972 NP205 ID plate and screws shown in the cross post and a 1972 transfer case shift boot retainer ring if you have one? Thanks -Wes
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Hi Wes,
This is the one from the 67-72 cross post. It's dated 6-23-72, and is in pretty good condition for it's age. It does have a little paint fade, and a couple small blemishes here and there.
I have a couple others around here somewhere, but I think this is the only one 72 (or older). I'll take another look and get back to you after Thanksgiving.

Unfortunately I don't have the shifter boot retaining ring for the 72 and older 205.

I'll send you a PM Friday.

Thanks,
Daniel


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