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It took a little elbow grease but the seals are looking brand new. I found that the easiest way to get the stuff off was to just rub it off between my fingers with soapy water. Now I can install them to the frame, which is the hardest part of the whole rebuild.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/odrp4z5ju3...9682.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/ws1pmjymkr...9685.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/5meazt8d1m...9684.jpg?raw=1 Every video I watched, guys had different recommendations for this step. Use Windex, use oil, use a screwdriver etc. I'm lucky I found this lubricant from Precision. With just a little extra effort I was able to basically push these seals into the frame by hand. Then I installed the frame onto the division bar. What was difficult here was getting both ends of the vent seal up under the division bar seal. This lubricant really helped with that. I used a plastic window tool to help tuck the hardest parts. https://www.dropbox.com/s/tagt2tfcla...9874.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/hw5vj7emhh...9867.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/s51kkn8qao...9866.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/kxznu57usz...9868.jpg?raw=1 Getting close to the end. The next step is to install the vent window assembly to the frame. First I need to install the vent window handle. I was able to find nice NOS handles and studs. The chrome on both turned out really nice after I hit it with the dremel. The rest of the parts are from a vent window handle rebuild kit I bought from LMC. Once the handle is installed, you are ready to install the window assembly. Slide the window post through the bottom hole in the frame. As you do, make sure you are installing the original washers back in the correct order that you removed them in. I messed this up on my original attempt, but I caught it and fixed it later. Next, install the tension springs and retaining nut and locking washer. I used NOS tension springs that I found on EBAY. The rest of the post hardware is the original stuff I cleaned up and soaked in Evaporust. Don't tightened all the way. Use the handle to lock the window in place. This is your last chance to get the glass depth correct. Check to make sure the window is make a good seal against the division bar seal and that the rivets aren't interfering. Adjust the window in the sash if needed. Install the vent window hinge rivet. You may have to tweak on the vent window frame bit to get everything lined up better. I needed a helper for this last rivet install. https://www.dropbox.com/s/qsp0u4zqda...9770.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/x0jgvvzdos...9771.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/t2gdzk6lag...9772.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/7i9i3h6rgq...9775.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/222mn4e771...9783.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/8sy9m7kjv8...9777.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/3t2s7ca4bv...9785.jpg?raw=1 The very last thing to do before I store these away was to install the division bar channel seal. Again, I couldn't find originals so I went with the Precision GRB 1111 60. I applied 3M weatherstrip adhesive to the back of the seals and to the division bar channels. I installed the seals and push them up until they were flush with the top edge of the channel. This will ensure no air will get by and create a whistle. https://www.dropbox.com/s/vxam5fiei4...9780.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/hw0a29xpc2...9782.jpg?raw=1 Well, this little project is finished. What to do next? https://www.dropbox.com/s/04nem9np6s...9303.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/8sy9m7kjv8...9777.jpg?raw=1 |
Re: "Midnight Rider" 1970 C10 SWB Fleetside
Body shop update. The bedsides are further along and looking good. Already shot some high build primer. The wheel covers had a few areas that needed smoothed. Trying to get these gaps closer on the front end. It is requiring some metal work and adjusting but it's getting there.
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Re: "Midnight Rider" 1970 C10 SWB Fleetside
***Body Shop update***
I was asked to bring a few items over this week to assist with continued progression of setting gaps and getting all of the edges straight. The biggest pain in the butt so far seems to be how this cowl panel fits. I had two nice ones to choose from and they both fit the same. Looking at where most of the gaps are now, we are targeting to get everything +/- 0.200". Getting closer to that every time I come check on it. Had to bring up the tailgate for prep work. Also, brought the door seals and windsheld seal to help set the cowl and door gaps. https://www.dropbox.com/s/epw1t2c9h7...9898.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/zza82u6mds...9900.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/a6vjqybjk8...9899.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/opg9l64wmg...9895.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/swte3ziec9...9897.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/yi2cjhrs7d...9896.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/6lpbnajakg...9892.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/wy4or4etu2...9893.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/f8him1j22n...9894.jpg?raw=1 |
Re: "Midnight Rider" 1970 C10 SWB Fleetside
The rear brake kit showed up this week. I got everything mocked up and I'm very happy to report that the caliper has lots of clearance. Will final install later this week. My wheel hopes are still alive!!!
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Time to install the rear brake kit. Everything is suppose to be a direct fit for the truck 12 bolt rear end. Since everything fit during the mock up, I'm not really expecting any problems.
In order to install this kit, you have to remove the axles first. Good thing the rear end cover wasn't sealed yet. Once the axle was out, I could install the backing plate. What I really like about this kit is that it comes with an internal parking brake on either side. This is a way better option for me than the D52 kit, since that kit has no parking brake at all. I had already replaced the original backing plate hardware with grade 8 stuff and had it nickel plated. I used these to secure the backing plates to the rear end flange. The GM assembly manual says to torque these to 35lb/ft. https://www.dropbox.com/s/n9o7ow8e4n...9787.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/5k6m415549...9788.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/5wadtlda6z...9789.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/0kdv8qdcod...9790.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/ng8uz8arm5...9791.jpg?raw=1 Reinstall axle and c-clips. https://www.dropbox.com/s/7twc186c1q...9793.jpg?raw=1 Next, install the caliper mounting brackets to the backing plates. Wilwood supplied nice bolts for this but they come in a raw finish that didn't quite go with my theme. So these bolts got replaced with stainless ones. Wilwood recommends using red Loctite 271 and torqueing these bolts to 25lb/ft. https://www.dropbox.com/s/pqabjk2jxe...9805.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/h5ztd8r4h1...9794.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/gh2lv8nml3...9795.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/6k91porwy5...9796.jpg?raw=1 Next step, installing the rotor. This step should have been easier. There were a few issues that made it difficult. For one thing, I guess I have bastard axles. These axles were advertised by Moser as being for a 4wd. They argued with me that the 2wd trucks are 5 lug. So, I went ahead with the 4wd 6 lug axles, which ended up getting me a 78mm center hub diameter. Well, the 6 lug diameter should be 90mm which is what my wheel center bore and the rotor center registration both are. Wilwood does offer some registration reducer rings, but they didn't have the size I needed. I contemplated making my own, but I found US Wheel Adapters on the internet and they do custom orders from aluminum or ABS plastic. So, I ordered a set of 90mm>78mm plastic rings with no flange. I ended up using the lathe to take another millimeter off the front half of the outer diameter to compensate for the powder coating on my wheels. The nice thing these wheels is the center bore is designed in a way the it captures the hub rings and they wont be able to walk around. In the end, these rings saved my butt and I have the confidence in knowing that everything will be true without vibration. The other issue I had was the brake shoes rubbing the inside of the drum. The LR rotor went on without any issues and would spin freely. The RR however, would barely spin before it would just grab and lock up. I called Wilwood and they suggested that I adjust the shoes outward until the adjustment wheel won't turn anymore. Then pull on the ebrake lever a few times and this is suppose to align the shoes to the drum. Well, that did not work. I ended up using 220 grit and sanding the black electro coating off of the drums where the shoes will grab. This helped quite a bit but there was still some rubbing. Then, I noticed witness marks at the bottom of both shoes. So, I sanded those spots down and re-checked for rubbing. I sanded and re-checked six times until I had good clearance. All clear now. https://www.dropbox.com/s/g1qm6klfmr...0015.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/36j8tha9af...0014.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/0zkj1u2a0m...9807.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/izoc9knf65...9797.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/24o5zdj69p...0012.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/qx5b4jppwj...9914.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/sf1grsc1z6...9804.jpg?raw=1 Next up is installing the calipers. Again, Wilwood supplied nice raw mouting bolts. I substituted those for stainless. Using the supplied shims, I made sure the caliper was centered on the rotor. Then I torqued the mounting bolts to Wilwood specs (40lb/ft) along with using red Loctite. https://www.dropbox.com/s/wwaigma3p5...9806.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/auc9i7qle1...9808.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/72e4sacc6y...9916.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/edjo9tl69n...9811.jpg?raw=1 Close to finishing up here, but this thing is never going to stop without some brake pads. Installing them is super easy. No messy brake quiet goo. Just drop in place, secure and you're finished. https://www.dropbox.com/s/1cb3962640...9812.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/ahojqw7khe...9813.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/pgmsbtfi19...9921.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/2zt0fjvfr8...9818.jpg?raw=1 I already know the wheels fit, but I wanted to show how much clearance there is here. I'm super excited that this worked out. The look is really clean and most importantly, I still have my wheels!!! https://www.dropbox.com/s/x2p79udcrz...9819.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/a6tbrl5roh...9820.jpg?raw=1 |
Re: "Midnight Rider" 1970 C10 SWB Fleetside
***Body Shop Update***
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Re: "Midnight Rider" 1970 C10 SWB Fleetside
***Body Shop Update***
I was asked to bring the rear splash pans for bed mockup. Grabbed some photos while I was here. Gaps are pretty much set. The cowl still needs a bit of work in a few places. More work has been done to the doors and body lines on the cab. Tailgate is in epoxy primer. Tops of the fenders are skim coated. About to start looking for low/high spots on the bedside. https://www.dropbox.com/s/wobbp483qc...9960.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/7yvf4p13ei...9961.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/hcmvu6m1tx...9957.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/bdjierqqzk...9956.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/xqxlg8eynm...9953.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/jk18q4al0l...9954.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/yyio4geg39...9955.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/ci9xxie5mh...9959.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/pcu7ry6egl...9958.jpg?raw=1 |
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Everybody has been taking a break to work on other things over the past week. Should be working on a few things this week though. Here is more progress on the cowl. Also, the splash pans are in epoxy primer now.
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I can appreciate (and also not be at all envious) of the amount of time it takes to get all of the gaps in that particular spot to look so good.
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That is going to be one nice truck!!!!!
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Got a little rear brake line work done tonight. Started with installing a 90° stainless fitting into each caliper. I used plumbers tape to get a good seal. Using a wrench, I tightened it as far as I could while keeping it facing the right direction.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/t9fzqmob3h...0150.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/qrvgxaxzqr...0152.jpg?raw=1 Next I installed the tee for the rear lines. GM used a brass tee here. I wanted to replicate that but I decided to go 3/16 brake lines on the whole system. So, the factory tee size won't work here. I found a triple 3/16 tee and paired it with nickel plated 3/8-24 to -3an adapter. The only way I could make this work was to fasten it all together with a super narrow base weld nut. I found one that was stainless and ground it flat. I used red loctite on this nut and got it as tight as I could against the factory mounting tab. https://www.dropbox.com/s/4icsa76uge...0195.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/ra2xvaole5...0756.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/is2v2i7vk0...0749.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/v14ct10tn6...0758.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/4667grhw1u...0759.jpg?raw=1 Next, I installed the rear brake lines. I went with a stainless pre-bent set from CPP. Ill need to alter a few bends, but these are really close right out of the bag. https://www.dropbox.com/s/j5hnsuu7ks...0746.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/peyyplsd9e...0762.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/dhaxij0770...0763.jpg?raw=1 Next, I installed the the stainless brake hoses to the calipers. https://www.dropbox.com/s/983360wc1t...0066.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/uemnq7agxu...0154.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/ipm00rw87d...0156.jpg?raw=1 I'm not sure where I got this brake hose mounting tab kit, but it is up next. Long ago, I had the tabs nickel plated along with the clips. The only thing I didn't care for is how flashy these stainless bands are. So, I found some nice black ones to replace them with. I will just need to trim the stud later. I used a nickel plated 3/8-24 to -3an adapter with the mounting tab. https://www.dropbox.com/s/nlpw1pvj0i...0745.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/5d12d17rc5...0777.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/zk4myvchmq...0781.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/cqmvgjpgn5...0747.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/0qqi2t03p7...0778.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/0nd0fa0czj...0782.jpg?raw=1 |
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Trying to wrap up the rear end stuff. Added the vent, vent tubing and the brake flex line that goes to the frame rail and brake line clip on the rear end cover.
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The bedsides are nearly done now. It's getting close to bed assembly time. So, I brought the front bed panel to Hawk Restoration to get it prepared. I couldn't find an NOS front panel or even a good used one. so I got what I hear is the next best thing...Mar-K. Here are some pics of it and the progress I noticed while I was there.
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I stopped by the body shop today to check on things. The front bed panel is in epoxy primer now. The bedsides and wheel tubs are finished and are ready for assembly. The cab and front fenders are skim coated and are currently being massaged. The cowl is off and the center section is about to get media blasted. So many details!
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I met Piedmont Traction at the body shop today and we started assembling the bed. In order to do this, I had to bring the cross sills, bed wood and the bed hardware. For all of this, I again went with Mar-K. I plan to use stainless hardware for final assembly but for mockup I will use a cheaper zinc plated kit.
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And just like that...this project has stopped. Ugh.
Installing the tailgate today. I have NOS latches that I nickel plated but I will save those for the final build. For today I have a different pair of NOS latches that I will use. I also have an NOS tailgate handle for the build. I nickel plated my original latch rods but I will also save them for the final build. For today, I will use some Counterpart latch rods. https://www.dropbox.com/s/547lk5hp84...0365.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/vv2my0r6ui...7093.jpg?raw=1 I got all the parts installed on the tailgate only to discover the first issue. It appears that the tailgate handle mounting holes that get stamped into the outer skin was put in the wrong place. When I tried to pull up on the handle, it was too far up inside the gate to be able to lift all the way up. When I compered these measurements to a GMC gate that was in the shop here, my holes were off by as much as a 1/4 inch. https://www.dropbox.com/s/ycl7plxqxp...0414.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/7f9pu8icnu...0415.jpg?raw=1 We were thinking we could cut out the stamped area and relocate it. So, I went ahead and mounted the gate to the bed. This is the bigger issue. The crazy thing is that nobody ever saw it until today. The bedside, also NOS, is problematic. It appears that the very back of the bedside was spot welded incorrectly at the factory. The outer skin is about 1/4 higher than the inner structure and not level at the top. So, now I will pause and weigh my options. Buy NOS they said. It fits the best they said. LOL. https://www.dropbox.com/s/hcwjxlrdlp...0367.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/otsybtln94...0366.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/9e0r12uf8z...0368.jpg?raw=1 |
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So, after weighing my options I decided the have the bedside fixed and I am going to try and replace the tailgate. I used the search function here to determine who might have a tailgate on hand. I reached out to DaddyMoo2 and he didn't disappoint. He had two options that will work for me. An Nos gate and an early take-off from a truck that received a camper. This is what he sent me. Packing up right now and heading to Kentucky for a day trip. Let's bring them both home so we have options.
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I got both tailgates home and looked them over. The takeoff gate ends up being the nicer of the two. I'm hoping since it was installed on a truck from the factory, it would fit the best. This gate is really nice and straight and doesn't really need much to get it ready for paint. The tailgate handle fits way better than what I had before. After checking the fit, the handle got massaged to better match the lines of the gate. Time to work on the bedside now.
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Stopped by the body shop today to check on progress. The tailgate is on. The bedside is no longer leaning into the tailgate. Cut a slice in it to relieve the area. Next step will be cut the spot welds out and lower the panel to where it should be.
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Re: "Midnight Rider" 1970 C10 SWB Fleetside
Spot welds drilled out and bedside skin has been lowered. The top still isn't quite level but great progress so far.
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Re: "Midnight Rider" 1970 C10 SWB Fleetside
The bed is on the frame now. The bed lines are really close to the cab lines. The bed still needs the isolator pads installed under the bed crossmembers. This will probably require the cab to be shimmed as well.
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Re: "Midnight Rider" 1970 C10 SWB Fleetside
More progress on the bedside. A small slice got the top level now. This is looking much better compared to what I had a few weeks ago.
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Re: "Midnight Rider" 1970 C10 SWB Fleetside
I'm rounding up all of my trim that will get installed on the truck. It will get mocked up this week so we know exactly where all the holes will need to be drilled. Drilling will be done before paint. Upper and lower side trim is from Mar-K. Upper and lower tailgate trim is from Mar-k as well. The black tailgate band is from Trim Parts. It is the better reproduction with the metal letters. The LH cab divider trim is NOS. The RH cab divider trim is what came off my truck. Thank goodness it has no damage since the RH NOS trim piece is such a unicorn. Tailgate handle trim piece is NOS. The fender emblems are what came off my truck. I will use these to drill the holes. I have different ones for final assembly.
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Re: "Midnight Rider" 1970 C10 SWB Fleetside
Your progress is looking GREAT!
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I realize I need to work on the frame in order to stay ahead of the body shop. I would hate for the cab to be ready before the frame. So, I need to concentrate on getting this thing rolling on wheels and tires. The rear is pretty much ready to roll, so I need to get going on the front. Next up is the front springs. I am using CPP 1" drop springs. The pancake crossmember should give me a 1.5" drop and the spindles will be an additional 2.5" drop. With these springs, I should end up a total of 5" dropped in the front.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1sjh2c8i1o...0788.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/xmsofkp4n5...0789.jpg?raw=1 Without any weight on the frame from the body or even a drivetrain, I needed something to jack against so I could get the spring seated and balljoint stem nuts tightened properly. So, I used the bucket on my tractor. https://www.dropbox.com/s/tew7gtf89l...0791.jpg?raw=1 Here, I quickly realized that the spring was not seating correctly. I got the pigtail to sit in the lower control arm bucket correctly, but the top was misaligned. The crossmember spring mounting area is D-shaped and the top coil can really only sit one way. The way it is currently orientated, the spring was not sitting flush and would ultimately not yield a 1 inch drop. Looking at it here, it might even raise the truck. https://www.dropbox.com/s/qihkam1wh0...0821.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/nsn8aqkrs0...0824.jpg?raw=1 At this point, I checked the forums here for anybody else that has encountered this issue. Not surprising, but it is common and it has to do with spring winding process. Most people say they just cut off a half coil and moved on. I decided to send the last two pics to CPP and ask for their opinion. CPP said that this looked okay and it would more than likely move into place when the truck gets driven. Well, this answer didn't sit well with me. I remember back to when I installed 3" drop springs on this truck years ago. I ended up cutting a half coil out to give it some rake. The truck just sat too level. So, I decided to cut just enough to get the spring to seat correctly on both ends. I ended up cutting off a 1/4 coil off of the bottom coil. https://www.dropbox.com/s/ju8so3c7yj...0941.jpg?raw=1 I didn't want to install the springs with bare metal so I used some POR-15 to coat the ends where I made the cut. It matches the powder coat finish on the springs pretty well. Now, I have to wait 48 hours for it to cure. https://www.dropbox.com/s/d1187s72el...lack.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/27noo1pzrc...0942.jpg?raw=1 |
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POR-15 has cured nicely and it's time to install the front springs. I used the tractor again for the assist, although it was a bit easier to install them with a 1/4 coil cut out. The spring seated correctly top and bottom this time. Once I jacked up the lower control arm, I was able to torque the balljoint stem nuts to the correct specs, 50 lb/ft and 90 lb/ft. No cotter pins for now because I will need to torque these again after the truck is finished due to adding more weight.
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Next thing to do before I can get the frame off jack stands is install the front brakes. This will allow me to install the front wheels and tires. When I started unpacking everything for this step, I realized I couldn't find any information about the brake pads they sent me. I can only assume they are generic. I would feel much better if I installed front pads that I was confident matched the rear compound. So, I ordered new front pads.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yqmcl8i4hx...0972.jpg?raw=1 For now, I will just install the rotors. This will still allow me to install the front wheels temporarily. That will get it off jack stands and enable me to do a few other things on the rear. The CPP front brake kit I bought came with raw iron rotors. I attempted to paint them black a while back, but I kept having issues getting the paint to stick. I ended up finding identical rotors that Performance Online offered except they were plated with Black Oxide. Obviously, I'm trying to prevent rust, so this was a much better option for me than paint that won't stick. https://www.dropbox.com/s/u6wqkav6rb...0969.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/awaugxzk24...0968.jpg?raw=1 The bearings and seals that came with the kit were also unmarked. So, I bought replacement Timken bearings and seals. Quality parts just make me feel better. https://www.dropbox.com/s/3u4o6v8u46...0973.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/m9lsnyp8nz...0974.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/yx5ohia48y...0975.jpg?raw=1 I used Mobil 1 synthetic grease to pack the bearings and installed them in the rotor. Then I gently tapped the seals in place with a block of wood. Than I installed the rotors and tightened the castle nuts to just hand tight. https://www.dropbox.com/s/880n9vqu8n...1027.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/x3u3f9vj1v...0978.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/t46htagu6s...1064.jpg?raw=1 Wheels are installed front and rear and just like that, it's sitting on the ground!!! https://www.dropbox.com/s/uoalsri3rs...0983.jpg?raw=1 Last thing I wanted to do was stand the front wheels with a camber reading that is more representative of what it will be like when things are final. This will allow me to check the ride height now to make sure I'm not way far off. For camber shims, I wanted to find something cleaner and more like what you would find on a race car. I found this anodized aluminum set on EBAY from AfterDarkSpeed. They advertise them for a 73-87 C10 but I can tell you that they work just fine for 67-72. Once I installed them, I jounced the front end about 20 times. Then I measured to the floor from the core support mounts. Each side was within a 1/16" I'm very happy with this!!! https://www.dropbox.com/s/dmmnxdep59...hims.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/2see3zma5l...0982.jpg?raw=1 |
Re: "Midnight Rider" 1970 C10 SWB Fleetside
Nice work! I'm enjoying all the great pictures. I feel your pain on the NOS body panels in particular. I had a similar experience with an NOS tailgate and fender. I think body parts that were actually installed on a truck had a higher level of quality control. It almost seems like parts that didn't make the grade to get sent to the factory were then put in the service parts network and left to the body shop to correct.
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The biggest reason that I needed to get the frame on the ground was for the next step...the gas tank. I'm going with a 19 gallon EFI Boyd Welding tank. This thing is a piece of art! Since I will have a wood bed, I decided to go with the flush floor option. I also opted for their mounting kit, which will make for a easy clean install. For safety sake, I had them install a rollover vent. No in tank fuel pump though, we will go a different route for that.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qys62wybq3...ank1.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/m0gx8wqx8w...ank2.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/dk5b70cgus...ank3.jpg?raw=1 First thing to do is note that I fixed the two spots of rust that were left on the frame rails where I had forgotten to remove a brace in earlier steps. I taped off the area and sanded the rust to bare metal with a Dremel and a flap wheel. Then I coated the area with POR-15 Chassis Black. This was done a few days ago, but I forgot to mention it and forgot to take a photo. https://www.dropbox.com/s/o2idomwmhv...785a.jpg?raw=1 Next thing to do was test fit. The tank is fairly light when it's empty, but a floor jack makes it easy to maneuver it around once it's in place. Being able to move it around is important so you can square up the tank in the space. It's kind of a tight fit, but there is plenty of room to center it up. Once I got it where I wanted it, I used tape to outline the mounts on the bottom of the frame rails. This will help me relocate it later. Once it was outlined I removed the tank for the next step. https://www.dropbox.com/s/r7mchr0bf5...0981.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/eoizf8l3w6...983a.jpg?raw=1 Next, I measured exactly where I needed to drill the mounting holes in the tank. I had to be careful here so the existing holes in the frame didn't interfere. I also needed to make sure I was using a flat part of the frame rail and not where it starts to curve up toward the shock crossmember. I used the mounting brace as my template for all of this. When I had the brace where I wanted it, I used and automatic punch to locate the starting point for my drill bit. This should eliminate the chance of the bit walking and messing something up. Once I drilled the holes in the tank, I used my reference tape to reinstall the tank onto the frame. Here I transferred the hole pattern onto the bottom of the rail and repeated my drilling process. When all of the drilling was complete, I installed the tank one last time and tested fitted the mounts and hardware. Everything fit great! Now I have to send the braces to be painted so they blend in with the frame. https://www.dropbox.com/s/4b3nvp2jvx...0984.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/cogv6qdu1x...unch.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/jk4s0bsidm...0985.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/78aw2sdrw5...0956.jpg?raw=1 |
Re: "Midnight Rider" 1970 C10 SWB Fleetside
Great build thread thanks for the detailed write up..
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So the next few things I'm going to work on made me realize something. The front crossmember I received back is actually from a 71-72 C10. I'm not sure what all the differences are, but the big one I see right now is how the front brake lines install. On the crossmember that I removed, the lines installed on the back side. Here it is during the teardown
https://www.dropbox.com/s/isfhirweqi...4566.jpg?raw=1 The lines on this 1972 install on the front side. Hard to see but here is the bracket for the fitting. https://www.dropbox.com/s/gkzev027zw...6881.jpg?raw=1 I originally ordered a stainless CPP front brake line set for a 67-70. These obviously will not work now. So I needed to find a 71-72 set. I have zero experience making stainless brake lines so, I'm trying to make it easy on myself by getting pre-bent. Inline Tube had kit #SCTB72F2. https://www.dropbox.com/s/fd6bqdfpmr...ekit.png?raw=1 Here is the RF line just laid on the crossmember. You can see how they will route under the engine stand and toward the front bracket. https://www.dropbox.com/s/owr65fyfvh...1187.jpg?raw=1 |
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I just want to document a few things. I need to come up with a few more parts to get painted hot rod black along with the gas tank mounts. I've had a few things put away for this exact occasion. I'm dropping off these parts off tomorrow.
Part of what I had nickel plated was the brake assembly. I used my original for this. I disassembled it and stripped the rust. After nickel plating, it needs to have the factory black painted on the arm. https://www.dropbox.com/s/yxcsihcsp9...1044.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/t2q1wx8tyj...1046.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/63pr95bq9e...1052.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/ahdj7ol5gt...1055.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/tcgf7gtj5u...8510.jpg?raw=1 Next is the emergency brake assembly. My original wasn't in good enough shape to keep. The arm was bent in two direction and was a little weak from straightening. I found and NOS assembly a few years back on EBAY. In order to nickel plate, it needed stripped too. After plating, now the arm needs painted factory black too. https://www.dropbox.com/s/h6hn5vhjvu...1056.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/5jsqxd8pn2...1050.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/yff6f9a47y...510a.jpg?raw=1 The last thing I will be taking are the wiper transmission arms. My originals were in terrible shape. I found a really nice used one and an NOS. I disassembled both of them and then the raw metal to be nickel plated. Before I reassemble, the transmission arms will need to be painted black. https://www.dropbox.com/s/hk7xdxcg70...1059.jpg?raw=1 |
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Dropped the parts off to be painted. While I was here, I grabbed some updated photos. I decided to have the seams shaved where the cab metal overlaps in the windshield area and the door jambs. Added some metal to the seam area and now it's getting smoothed out.
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I got the front brake pads in today so it's time install the front brakes. First thing I need to do is install the castle nut with the right amount of torque and then install the cotter pin and dust cap. The proper torque for the castle nut is tightening until you can only spin the rotor about 1 half turn. All the hardware for the front brake are nickel plated.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ukkazchpuo...1167.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/zaii5k8r10...1168.jpg?raw=1 Place the pads inside the rotor. The CPP pads that I decided to not use came with two clips to hold the pads in place during caliper installation. Install brass bushings inside caliper. Place the caliper over the rotor and line up with mounting holes on the spindle. Use white lithium grease to cover the caliper mounting bolts so the pads slide easier during operation. Install mounting bolts and torque to 35 lb/ft. https://www.dropbox.com/s/svlchtpj3m...1170.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/vuwq38elpf...1179.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/qthzygh14x...1172.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/2boidmgfs9...1174.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/s6kk4vy9f8...1171.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/uk7mhor3bl...1175.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/qb5rdhbs5m...1178.jpg?raw=1 Installing the brake lines and hardware. Just installed loose for right now until I decide how I want to tie back the brake hoses. https://www.dropbox.com/s/hdo51y8029...1182.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/13zovqe1u9...1185.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/x17u6zoepm...1184.jpg?raw=1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/evnxwe4ebd...1186.jpg?raw=1 |
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Apologies if you already went over this and I missed it, but I'm curious about the disc brake conversion you did here. Is this one of those kits which will move your wheels outward slightly, or are these new parts you were able to order and don't move the stock location of the wheels? I see the rear ones are like the newer ones Chevy had for a while, with a parking brake that was still a drum brake that used the disc rotor as the drum. Did you have to replace the entire axle to do this or were you able to use the original?
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