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givengold 08-19-2009 07:07 PM

Fuel gauge
 
My fuel gauge just stopped working. I did a visual check of the fuses, everything looks OK. Where do I look next?
'77 stepside, big block, dual tanks.
Thank you,
Dan

old Rusty C10 08-19-2009 08:06 PM

Re: Fuel gauge
 
is there any change with switching the tanks?

BGRAFX 08-19-2009 08:25 PM

Re: Fuel gauge
 
I'm looking for a similar answer, mine is readiing a 1/4tank low. so is it the guage or the fuse or the sending unit?

givengold 08-21-2009 12:00 AM

Re: Fuel gauge
 
No, the gauge does not move for either tank. It is pinned all the way to the right (past full).

Zman86 08-21-2009 05:41 PM

Re: Fuel gauge
 
having a similar problem with mine. Replaced the gauge with another I had, same thing. I've not gotten any further into the problem.

asphaltburner 08-21-2009 05:47 PM

Re: Fuel gauge
 
Yo! Wow! Just posted this info in pokethesmot's post. Pegged beyond full is an indication of an open circuit, and is usually attributed to a bad ground on the inner frame. Could be a bad sender if you've not replaced it already, or could be a damaged pink (or light brown) sender wire between the gauge and sender.
Todd.

givengold 08-21-2009 06:16 PM

Re: Fuel gauge
 
Todd,
Thank you for the info. I will check those issues ASAP.
Dan

68 TT 08-23-2009 10:18 AM

Re: Fuel gauge
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BGRAFX (Post 3473896)
I'm looking for a similar answer, mine is readiing a 1/4tank low. so is it the guage or the fuse or the sending unit?

I had one that only moved a 1/4 tank for its entire range. Within that range it was accurate on how much was in that tank.

Turned out the float had a leak in it and was partially submerged in fuel. Check the float in the tank.

joe231 08-23-2009 10:57 AM

Re: Fuel gauge
 
a leaky float will give you low readings.....as Todd stated, pegged to full is an open circuit, and since both tanks show the same look at what is in common for both tanks...which is also what Todd had said ;)

asphaltburner 08-23-2009 12:24 PM

Re: Fuel gauge
 
Yo! Dudes!
The new senders that I bought have solid floats so they'll never leak, so replacing old senders (if inaccurate or malfunctioning) would sure be a plus. LMC and Classic Industries have them. They ARE, however, $70 each.
Todd.

joe231 08-23-2009 12:33 PM

Re: Fuel gauge
 
Soild?
what is it made of?

asphaltburner 08-23-2009 12:43 PM

Re: Fuel gauge
 
Yo! Some kinda very dense material, shaped like a roll. Doesn't seem porous,...cool, huh?
Todd.

joe231 08-23-2009 12:45 PM

Re: Fuel gauge
 
yeah, that is wild

asphaltburner 08-23-2009 01:06 PM

Re: Fuel gauge
 
Yo! joe231!
I just LOVE applying new technology to my 30+ year old vehicles!!
Todd.

joe231 08-23-2009 05:34 PM

Re: Fuel gauge
 
Heck yeah!!
:metal:

givengold 08-25-2009 02:06 PM

Re: Fuel gauge
 
I found it. A spliced section of wire was missing running along the frame between the passenger side tank and the firewall.

68 TT 08-25-2009 02:49 PM

Re: Fuel gauge
 
Glad to hear it was something easy.

Dropping the tank sucks especially if it has much fuel in it.

I just helped a friend change the in tank pump on his late 90's Chevy van. It has a 100 gallon tank and we could only get 50 gallons out of it with all the gas cans in the neighborhood so we still had probably 35 gallons to deal with. Good thing I had a tranny jack.

asphaltburner 08-25-2009 07:05 PM

Re: Fuel gauge
 
Yo! Far out!
Todd.

bigred1957 01-28-2012 05:51 PM

Re: Fuel gauge
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 68 TT (Post 3479531)
I had one that only moved a 1/4 tank for its entire range. Within that range it was accurate on how much was in that tank.

Turned out the float had a leak in it and was partially submerged in fuel. Check the float in the tank.

Mine did the same exact thing, read a bit over a 1/4 a tank to empty through the full range sweep. I tried a new sender it did the same so I know it's not the float. The wiring checked out but have'nt checked the gauge. Anyone know how to test the gauge? In or out of the truck?

oldwagon 01-28-2012 09:43 PM

Re: Fuel gauge
 
Hey guys, along the same lines, when I start out with a full tank, the gauge works fine; however, when the gauge drops to about 3/8 of a tank full, it will start fluttering real bad. Any possibilities?

68 TT 01-28-2012 11:04 PM

Re: Fuel gauge
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oldwagon (Post 5152089)
Hey guys, along the same lines, when I start out with a full tank, the gauge works fine; however, when the gauge drops to about 3/8 of a tank full, it will start fluttering real bad. Any possibilities?

Sounds like a bad spot in the float level rheostat.

motornut 01-29-2012 01:10 AM

Re: Fuel gauge
 
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an open/cut sending wire will max out over full
a grounded wire will go empty
a flutter might need a ground in the cluster
may want to try adding a ground behind it..... there they all go to one

jesse977 01-29-2012 03:01 AM

Re: Fuel gauge
 
I just went through this...my fuel gauge was stuck at 1/4 and didnt move at all. The culprit was the wire that goes from sending unit to dash.

wilkin250r 01-29-2012 03:43 AM

Re: Fuel gauge
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigred1957 (Post 5151664)
Mine did the same exact thing, read a bit over a 1/4 a tank to empty through the full range sweep. I tried a new sender it did the same so I know it's not the float. The wiring checked out but have'nt checked the gauge. Anyone know how to test the gauge? In or out of the truck?

The gauge is fairly simple. The sending unit is basically a variable resistor ranging from 0 ohms at full, 90 ohms at empty (with 45 ohms being half full, ect ect). So all the gauge does is read that resistance. To test the gauge, you just pull the sending unit out of the circuit and replace it with a known resistance.

You can accomplish this by pulling the actual wire off the sending unit and connect a resistance to ground, and this will not only test the gauge, but also all the wiring associated with all of it. Variable resistors (also called Rheostats or Potentiometers, or pots for short) are only a few bucks from Radio Shack, the hardest part is making sure you're showing the gauge a realistic resistance. Keeping within 0-90 ohms is going to be difficult with a potentiometer that ranges from 0-100,000 ohms. If that's your choice, you might actually be better off buying a selection of fixed resistors and using them.

Let me know if you want more help, not only am I an electrical engineer, I just recently fixed a similar issue on my 79 squarebody. I had to replace the sending unit, along with most of the wiring all the way to the dash (luckily, my gauge was still functional).

bigred1957 01-30-2012 12:58 AM

Re: Fuel gauge
 
Resistance makes sense, both my new and old rheostats do the same thing. The full sweep ranges from empty to just above a quarter tank, but it still is a full sweep (i.e. the gauge isn't stuck at a quarter a tank until the tank reaches a quarter, it sweeps the entire capacity of the tank). Wouldn't that mean added resistance in the gauge or printed circuit?


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