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External 04-03-2021 09:45 PM

Heater core shut off valve
 
Hey everyone!
I read somewhere on here that someone had put a valve on their heater core inlet hose. So that the hot water would not circulate in the heater core.
I'm interested in this fix as summer approaches.
My heater shut off is worn out and allows hot air into the cab all the time.

My question: Will adding a valve in my system cause any problems?
Any advice is much appreciated.

Andy4639 04-03-2021 09:51 PM

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I have run them for years with no problems. If you have AC in the truck it's worth every penny. When I installed the one in my 71 C 10 I got 5* more out of my AC.

Pictures are of the one in my Ramp truck.
:chevy:

pwdcougar 04-03-2021 09:59 PM

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I've had one on my 69 Cougar for 20 years with no problems. I used a solder connection type brass ball valve and soldered on a couple inches of copper pipe and put two clamps on each side.

Grumpy old man 04-03-2021 10:08 PM

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https://www.autozone.com/cooling-hea...E&gclsrc=aw.ds

Rich72C10 04-03-2021 10:44 PM

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So which line to you put it on, from the block or the Radiator?

I ask since the A/C shop put one on for me but it shuts off from the Radiator. Seems it would work better from the block side, in front of the vacuum control shut off valve.

Stocker 04-04-2021 12:18 AM

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Put the valve on the hose from the engine -- that is the heat source. The hose to the radiator is for water exiting the heater core.

Richard 04-04-2021 02:03 AM

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The vacuum shut off valve should be standard on an A/C truck. Basically does not matter what hose it is installed in, will stop the flow, in the heat side does make make sense.

franken 04-04-2021 03:57 AM

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Ok, laugh at me...
This is to reduce hotness in the cab in the summer? I've seen them in a few trucks and wondered...

Rich72C10 04-04-2021 07:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stocker (Post 8903476)
Put the valve on the hose from the engine -- that is the heat source. The hose to the radiator is for water exiting the heater core.

That is what I was thinking too, it would make more sense for the shut off to be on source side. I'd just figured the A/C guy knew something different.

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Originally Posted by Richard (Post 8903491)
The vacuum shut off valve should be standard on an A/C truck. Basically does not matter what hose it is installed in, will stop the flow, in the heat side does make make sense.

Yes, understand it is standard and I do have a new one but my understanding they kind of suck - so that is why I asked for a manual shut off value when the A/C was being fixed & upgraded.

Now I need to decide when/if to move it over to the inlet/engine source side. It's one of those things I look at and scratch my head about .... "is that right?". At some point I suppose I'll just do it because it will get on my nerves LOL

Edit: NM my hoses are actually correct.

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Originally Posted by franken (Post 8903500)
Ok, laugh at me...
This is to reduce hotness in the cab in the summer? I've seen them in a few trucks and wondered...

That pretty much it, to 100% stop hot water flow in the cab. If any hot water flow gets to the coil it affects the efficiency of the A/C (and I'd image any cool air you are trying to get if you haven't A/C).

Rich72C10 04-04-2021 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Grumpy old man (Post 8903433)

Grumpy, I assume that is more like a OEM cut off?

Grumpy old man 04-04-2021 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich72C10 (Post 8903513)
Grumpy, I assume that is more like a OEM cut off?

They've been around forever , it's inexpensive at around $10.00 at your local parts house and installed in minutes . :chevy:

And they look good , Not like you stole the plumbing off your grandmothers water heater !

Rich72C10 04-04-2021 08:30 AM

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ya, I am pretty sure you (or someone else) commented on one of my post where the A/C guy installed a setup much like Andy's. Which is exactly the same cut off valve I installed on my water heater LOL!

Grumpy old man 04-04-2021 08:46 AM

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Hey , it's your truck use whatever makes you happy . :uhmk:

Rich72C10 04-04-2021 09:36 AM

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Well, I didn’t do it and I can say I was all that happy. But now I am, since I just changed it.

External 04-04-2021 10:07 AM

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Really appreciate the posts, stories, and replies.
Always learning from you all here.
Happy Easter!
Now I'm going to go shut off the hot water flow!

Rich72C10 04-04-2021 10:36 AM

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Your post helped me as much as you External - got me motivated to sort mine out! I even did a bit more rerouting and the inlet line isn't touching any of the A/C lines now. I also cut down the water reserve line as it was like a mile long - so it's nice and tidy all around on that side with water lines.

Have fun - the more you visit these forums the more you learn you need to do to your truck LOL!

BigBird05 04-04-2021 12:38 PM

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If your looking for original GM look, early 60's AC cars ( I would start with Cadillac or Buick or Olds) had a vacuum shut off valve.

pjmoreland 04-04-2021 01:41 PM

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I installed Vortec heads, which are lacking a coolant hole that older heads have for recirculation before the thermostat opens. I am relying on my heater core for recirculation, so installing a manual shutoff valve to the heater core would be a bad move in my case. I would have to install a thermostat bypass hose between the water pump and front of the intake manifold. I really don't like how those bypass hoses look. I will have to do that eventually though if I add AC to my truck.

Andy4639 04-04-2021 08:23 PM

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Well I was going to post something but I want since it's Easter Sunday.
Both my trucks perform well and I'll just leave it at that.
There is always someone.
Good luck with it. I hope you figure it out.
:chevy:

pjmoreland 04-04-2021 09:49 PM

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I hope I didn't say anything that upset you. I was talking about the little hose people have to add to the front of the intake manifold when running Vortec heads on trucks with AC.

SCOTI 04-06-2021 10:02 AM

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Apparently some later model vehicles require flow on the path to the heater core or suffer cavitation issues. I recently learned this & was not aware. These set-ups actually have a bypass that stops flow to the heater core (similar to these cut-off valves) yet allows for the loop to still circulate.

I learned about them on various LS swaps I've seen on the web.

71longbed-brew 04-06-2021 10:27 AM

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Can this be done on a non-ac truck ?

Andy4639 04-06-2021 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 71longbed-brew (Post 8904554)
Can this be done on a non-ac truck ?

My Ramp truck isn't AC truck and it cuts the heat off totally in the summer which helps a lot.

SCOTI,
I have the valve in my 71 C 10 with the vacuum valve in the other line with the LS 6.0 and not had any problems before. Can you share some links on the problems are symptoms of it.
:chevy:

SCOTI 04-06-2021 10:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy4639 (Post 8904564)
My Ramp truck isn't AC truck and it cuts the heat off totally in the summer which helps a lot.

SCOTI,
I have the valve in my 71 C 10 with the vacuum valve in the other line with the LS 6.0 and not had any problems before. Can you share some links on the problems are symptoms of it.
:chevy:

I actually tried to copy & post the link/info here but apparently the site where it is (where I learned of it) is having issues. I'll post up the info once I can access it. Apparently some LS cooling systems are harder than others to properly purge air & a contributing factor can be the coolant to heater core loop.

RichardJ 04-06-2021 11:19 AM

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The first image below from Summit looks very close to the cross-over used with 60's 289 fnords. The other images, also on Summit are from 4 Seasons that have internal valves. 4 seasons has a variety of manual cross-over styles, also shown in Summit.


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