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mrcomedy104 04-29-2014 10:55 PM

backfiring through carb
 
im sure this has popped up multiple times, but here it goes again. i have a 72 c20, i replaced the valve covers/gaskets, spark plugs/wires (spark plugs were gaped before installed to .035) after all of this was replaced it started backfiring from the carb, the motor is a 327 off a 67 camaro, my brother and i adjusted the timing and made sure the wires were put on correctly, it idles fine but as soon as i give it a little gas it starts popping from the carb, i sprayed a little carb cleaner in there but im still getting the backfire, i replaced the old vacuum lines, and plugs, my brother said that it might be a loose or messed up valve, im pretty lost now id appreciate any advice or possible solutions

thanks in advance

mud.man.rj 04-29-2014 11:02 PM

Re: backfiring through carb
 
Could have a bent exh pushrod so the fuel comes in the intake and can't excape out the exhaust valve so fires from compression and exits back out the intake vave which is the carb. Remove covers and run at idle or even unhook coil wire and ground and turn over engine and watch each rocker arm to see if it moves up and down the same as the others, could even be bad cam lobe but prob a pushrod or even broken rocker arm.

mud.man.rj 04-29-2014 11:04 PM

Re: backfiring through carb
 
Just double check the wires firing order first.. 18436572. Have even seen a rocker stud partily pull out of the head so look at their length also.

mrcomedy104 04-29-2014 11:06 PM

Re: backfiring through carb
 
thank you for the help, im definitely going to try that tomorrow, i have the truck idling right now, i am hearing a tick from the passenger side valve cover

mrcomedy104 04-29-2014 11:11 PM

Re: backfiring through carb
 
we redid the wires when we replaced them, the previous owner was careless with the truck

mud.man.rj 04-29-2014 11:16 PM

Re: backfiring through carb
 
A tick is usually a loose rocker arm, which could just be not adjusted enough or the rocker stud pulled up a bit so would act as loose. The rocker stud isn't a very common problem, only usually happens when an engine is over reved. But they are only pressed in not screwed so ya just back to pulling covers and having a really good look at each rocker arm and it's lift. The running it part when idling makes it really easy to see quick but can be a bit messy, that is why most would just turn it over and watch. good luck, you will get it. I went back to the double checking plug wires because I have done it myself and would have bet I got them all right, but didn't.:lol:

mud.man.rj 04-29-2014 11:25 PM

Re: backfiring through carb
 
Just remembered something else, you said it is a 67 engine with plug gap set at .035 so that means you have points, right so could be the condensor, it will make it backfire also. old school stuff. If you do switch up to HEI distrib you can open the plug gaps to .045 and get a bit more performance out of it and also a few more mpg, just a thought on the condensor.

mrcomedy104 04-29-2014 11:34 PM

Re: backfiring through carb
 
im going to check the valves tomorrow, there might be a loose one, i heard its really messy and tons of fun haha, but first thing ill do is double check the wires, the distributor is pretty big, i know its not stock, ill check what its called

mrcomedy104 04-29-2014 11:38 PM

Re: backfiring through carb
 
its a delco remy

Greasey Harley 04-29-2014 11:42 PM

Re: backfiring through carb
 
X2 on the Condensor.
If its points type

mud.man.rj 04-30-2014 12:03 AM

Re: backfiring through carb
 
If you are not sure which distrib you have just check to see if it has a separate coil then it has points and plug gap is .035 if it has a coil in the top of the cap then it is electronic and a HEI type so plug gap is .045

mrcomedy104 04-30-2014 01:03 AM

Re: backfiring through carb
 
http://www.delcoremyhistory.com/imag...ght-810w-1.jpg

it looks like this one

mrcomedy104 04-30-2014 01:04 AM

Re: backfiring through carb
 
http://www.delcoremyhistory.com/imag...ght-810w-1.jpg

it looks like this one

Greasey Harley 04-30-2014 01:05 AM

Re: backfiring through carb
 
That is an HEI
Check the plug gap, confirm proper plugs and firing order check timing ( base timing and total advance) if all checks oit---> check valve adjustment.
Don't use champion plugs in an HEI

mrcomedy104 04-30-2014 07:08 PM

Re: backfiring through carb
 
huh...... do you think its the spark plugs? i was on an embarrassing budget and bought the crappy autolite plugs....

mud.man.rj 04-30-2014 08:50 PM

Re: backfiring through carb
 
Hpoefully the plug wires are better, I just changed my full set, were Taylor 8.8 wires only 1 year old with about 1,000 miles on them and 3 were dead lately and had a small backfire at idle or downshift with a manual trans, so if they are new that is good but hopefully a good name brand set. can do an ohm meter check on each wire also if that is a concern. I agree on the Champion, never use them except in a Ford.

lousyflyer 04-30-2014 10:05 PM

Re: backfiring through carb
 
Just out of curiosity, how did the engine run before you changed the wires?
Did you drive it? Was it unresponsive or running with a miss?

mud.man.rj 05-01-2014 12:03 AM

Re: backfiring through carb
 
Was sitting here wondering when setting the timing, what is your base timing with vacumn advance hose disconnected, the normal around 12degrees and when you reconnect the vacumn line at idle does it stay the same or go up. Reason asking is that is the vacumn line should have no vacumn or very very little at idle as to not increase the base timing setting until the engine Rpm is raised then the vac canister should start to work and increase timing, so just making sure it is connected to ported vacumn no manifold (full vacumn) at idle. Just thinking of all avenue's. Like the question before mine though of how as it running before you changed the wires and plugs. Also won't make it run worse but pull the plugs and open up the gaps to .o45 for future running of engine so that is correct for HEI distrib.

mcm1209 05-01-2014 09:21 AM

Re: backfiring through carb
 
I would check timing.

MARKDTN 05-01-2014 11:00 AM

Re: backfiring through carb
 
What kind of carb is it? Is it a Holley?


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