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GMCPaul 07-09-2013 12:22 PM

67-68 Standard & Cowl hoods are Junk
 
UPDATE
We how have as of Jan. 3rd 2017 the 67-68 stock style hoods available from all new tooling and these actually fit correctly. We will have the 67-68 cowl hoods available later in 2017



In the past we had problems with the curvature of the edges of the hoods not matching the fenders which could be resolved by doing pie cut slices on edge underneath to then pull them into alignment before tacking in place. These hoods have gone from being workable to achieve a great fit to PURE TRASH in our opinion now.
So we will no longer offer the 67-68 Standard or cowl hoods.
THERE IS ONLY 1 MANUFACTURER OF THE 67-68 STANDARD & COWL HOOD AND THEY ARE EXTREMELY POOR QUALITY. THESE HOODS ARE MADE TO LONG Front To Back Now, HAVE INCONSISTENT WIDTHS FRONT TO REAR, ROLLED EDGES ON EITHER SIDE OF HOOD CREATE A ROUNDED BODY LINE ON BOTH SIDES MAKING IT LOOK ALMOST LIKE A 2ND BODY LINE ON EDGE OF HOOD AND CURVATURE OF HOOD FROM FRONT TO REAR DOES NOT MATCH THE CURATIVE OF THE 1967 & 1968 FRONT FENDERS. SO WE WILL NOT SELL THIS HOOD
PLEASE BEWARE THE SUPPLIERS OF THIS HOOD ARE AWARE OF THE PROBLEMS AND ALL RETAILERS SELLING THIS HOOD ARE SELLING THE SAME PRODUCT SO BUYER BEWARE Email if you would like pictures of many of the problems these hoods have.
the manufacturer has been told repeatedly by their wholesale buyers of the problem and continue to state in reply to them there is none so the problems only getting worse.
:cuss:
Paul ( Owner ) @ GMCPauls

GMCPaul 07-09-2013 02:01 PM

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Since I've already had 3 requests for the types of problems heres a few pics. You can see the that the hood positioned to far rear with zero clearance at cowl still extends 3/8" past the fenders, also look at the additional body line they created by rolling the hood edges creating a lifted curved crease on the edges, variance in width running along fenders as the hood hitting on either side at rear even though a OEM hood has a nice 5/16" gap on both sides. Then you also have to deal with the arch being wrong running along the length that was common prior that could be corrected by pie cutting the seam and push down then tacking the cuts with welds.
So guys honestly in my opinion if you want the 67-68 raised cowl look the only thing the 67-68 cowl hood is good for is to cut the raised cowl off and weld it to your original stock hood. You'll achieve a better look with a lot less work involved than trying to correct the reproduction hood for use.
No matter who you get this hood from it is only made by 1 manufacturer, and every hood they make is made in exactly the same way for every customer they sell to.
Paul ( Owner ) @ GMCPauls

specialtyretail 07-09-2013 02:36 PM

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Got to respect a company that lets you know there is a problem with something they have been selling. I appreciate the heads up, means a lot in my book. Thanks, Fred

zellway 07-23-2013 02:46 PM

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This is sad. Looks like my stock hood will be staying on my truck till something is done about this. Thanks for the heads up Paul!

1968SWBBigBlock 08-21-2013 08:34 PM

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I really appreciate the heads up - so sad that they make crap and don't go to jail for ripping off people

special-K 02-13-2014 01:17 AM

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I knew I wasn't crazy. Not sure if others have seen this problem,but along with the other crap mentioned,we had the vertical lines of the cowl induction at the cowl completely different on a truck. One side was about vertical and the other side was slanted back at the top about 15-20 degrees. I mean,can't they see?The hood doesn't have to be installed to see that.
Must be a language barrier with this stuff. I've been told by wholesalers they tell the manufacturer about problems,they acknowledge,and keep sending the same crap. Time to make this stuff back home. Screw them if they can't produce quality. We can!

Grumpy old man 02-24-2014 04:20 AM

Re: 67-68 Standard & Cowl hoods are Junk
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GMCPaul (Post 6164243)
In the past we had problems with the curvature of the edges of the hoods not matching the fenders which could be resolved by doing pie cut slices on edge underneath to then pull them into alignment before tacking in place. These hoods have gone from being workable to achieve a great fit to PURE TRASH in our opinion now.
So we will no longer offer the 67-68 Standard or cowl hoods.
THERE IS ONLY 1 MANUFACTURER OF THE 67-68 STANDARD & COWL HOOD AND THEY ARE EXTREMELY POOR QUALITY. THESE HOODS ARE MADE TO LONG Front To Back Now, HAVE INCONSISTENT WIDTHS FRONT TO REAR, ROLLED EDGES ON EITHER SIDE OF HOOD CREATE A ROUNDED BODY LINE ON BOTH SIDES MAKING IT LOOK ALMOST LIKE A 2ND BODY LINE ON EDGE OF HOOD AND CURVATURE OF HOOD FROM FRONT TO REAR DOES NOT MATCH THE CURATIVE OF THE 1967 & 1968 FRONT FENDERS. SO WE WILL NOT SELL THIS HOOD
PLEASE BEWARE THE SUPPLIERS OF THIS HOOD ARE AWARE OF THE PROBLEMS AND ALL RETAILERS SELLING THIS HOOD ARE SELLING THE SAME PRODUCT SO BUYER BEWARE Email if you would like pictures of many of the problems these hoods have.
the manufacturer has been told repeatedly by their wholesale buyers of the problem and continue to state in reply to them there is none so the problems only getting worse.
:cuss:
Paul ( Owner ) @ GMCPauls

Are the hood manufactures Tiwanese or are the hoods made by Tabcobodyparts.com in Cleveland Ohio who offer a cowl hood MADE IN THE USA for $449.75 ?

GMCPaul 02-24-2014 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Grumpy old man (Post 6541407)
Are the hood manufactures Tiwanese or are the hoods made by Tabcobodyparts.com in Cleveland Ohio who offer a cowl hood MADE IN THE USA for $449.75 ?

Tabco site is slightly misleading and a play on words, they state they make their own panels in the USA which is correct ""for the panels they make"" but everything they sell they DO NOT MAKE, they make some of the patch panels they carry but when it comes to entire body panels such as fenders , doors, hoods, etc... they are selling imported parts.
Paul Jr @ GMCPauls
NO they do not make the hood. ONLY 1 manufacturer that's located in Taiwan makes these and they've been told of the problem but just continue to ignore it.

special-K 03-04-2014 01:10 AM

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Yep,Tabco is a patch panel company that's been around since before the body panels were being reproduced. Naturally they started selling the body panels once they were

70blackfish 08-10-2014 10:58 AM

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i want to buy a cowl hood........but I'm going to keep my stock 44 year old hood, after reading this

gpat@earthlink.net 12-01-2014 09:36 PM

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How about a 72 cowl hood. Who has a good fitting one?

GMCPaul 12-02-2014 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by gpat@earthlink.net (Post 6940939)
How about a 72 cowl hood. Who has a good fitting one?

We have had Zero problems with the 69-72 cowl hood and they are all made by only 1 manufacturer so you should be good ordering that year hood from anyone. Hope You Have a Healthy, Happy & Safe Holiday Season Amongst Good Friends & Family!!
Paul

mutt_1986 01-03-2015 08:06 AM

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A guy that lives near me recently purchased a 67-68 cowl hood from http://tamrazs.wordpress.com/ his fit good. all the body lines matched up. no fabrication.

greystoke 03-22-2016 10:42 AM

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Those are made by AMD, they claim to have their own tooling that's just theirs. May be a good source as I'm looking at swapping to a 67 front clip. More research forthcoming.

greystoke 03-22-2016 11:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by greystoke (Post 7531411)
Those are made by AMD, they claim to have their own tooling that's just theirs. May be a good source as I'm looking at swapping to a 67 front clip. More research forthcoming.

And looking at the AMD site they show these as being TriPlus so seems to be a contradiction of facts....or BS

indymachinist 03-22-2016 12:32 PM

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This really sucks. I wanted a cowl hood for my 68 but I don't want a poor fitting piece of junk.

greystoke 03-22-2016 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by indymachinist (Post 7531512)
This really sucks. I wanted a cowl hood for my 68 but I don't want a poor fitting piece of junk.

I have an email into AMD requesting manufacturer information on the hoods they sell.

greystoke 03-22-2016 12:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mutt_1986 (Post 6982765)
A guy that lives near me recently purchased a 67-68 cowl hood from http://tamrazs.wordpress.com/ his fit good. all the body lines matched up. no fabrication.

Maybe you could get a picture of how his hood fits, that would be huge.

greystoke 03-22-2016 07:50 PM

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I asked AMD about their manufacturing, here was their reply:







Thanks for the email. All our truck hoods are made by TriPlus. The tooling for these hoods has been around for a number or years. To my knowledge, TriPlus supplies this same hood to everyone who sell it. I’m not aware of another tooling for this product.



We sold hundred with very few problems. That being said, you’re talking about a vehicle which is almost 50 years old. You should always expect some adjustments and body work when replacing any panel on a vehicle that old.



Thanks!

Tim Christian 03-23-2016 07:40 PM

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We are working on a new hood. This one is not made by Tri-Plus We are doing the test fitting now. Will let you know more info soon. Thanks

greystoke 03-24-2016 08:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Christian (Post 7533159)
We are working on a new hood. This one is not made by Tri-Plus We are doing the test fitting now. Will let you know more info soon. Thanks

very cool, look forward to the results!!

RRR18 05-09-2016 09:43 AM

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Any updates?

GMCPaul 05-09-2016 10:13 AM

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Dad just said that the new 67-68 stock & cowl hood tooling has been developed, the test fit of the stock hood was spot on but there were issues with the cowl hood fit. So it requires additional tweaking of tooling & assembly before released for production. No ETA or price has been announced yet for the company that will be bringing these to market as yet.
Paul Jr. @ GMCPauls

Grumpy old man 06-28-2016 05:20 PM

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Any update on these hoods ?

GMCPaul 06-29-2016 05:23 AM

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Nothing new as yet. After 5-6 years of complaining that there was a problem with them and finally dropping selling them all together I'm happy to wait until the fits JUST RIGHT

greystoke 09-04-2016 09:38 AM

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are we still waiting on this? I know patience is a virtue.

Tim Christian 09-07-2016 08:32 PM

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I am hoping to know dates cost and ect at SEMA show

Theboatandcarman 09-25-2016 07:03 PM

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Yea mine fits like garbage... God I hate body work :(

72MARIO 11-28-2016 12:01 PM

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Any update ?

GMCPaul 11-28-2016 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 72MARIO (Post 7781097)
Any update ?

The 1967-68 stock hood is a exact fit and the production run of these is just completed and they will be available in late Dec. early Jan. 2017.
the 67-68 cowl hoods have still not passed the test fit stage and are still in development stage. These are Close to be done but hinges upon the next fit on when production will begin.
Paul Jr. @ GMCPauls

GMCPaul 01-05-2017 09:09 AM

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The all new 1967-68 stock steel hoods are now in stock. These are made from all new tooling and provide a great fit, so we finally have a 67-68 stock hood that we will sell.
You'll find the hoods on the following page of our web site.
http://www.gmcpauls.com/Body&Bumpers.htm
part # 366410 1967-68 Steel Hood
The 67-68 cowl hoods have still not passed the test fit stage and are still in the development stage. These are very Close to being done but these still hinge upon the next fit being absolutely correct before production will begin.
Paul Jr. @ GMCPauls

greystoke 01-05-2017 10:08 AM

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This is awesome, saving for a 67 front clip. Will be ordering soon!!!

Sanduners 05-26-2018 10:58 PM

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I recently purchase a cowl hood from Classic in HB, the price was right. It fit really well, not sure if this was one of the newer versions talked about here. I did contact Paul first and he said they should be almost out of the old ones. I was able to purchase one for $387 + tax and picked it up.

jjzepplin 05-27-2018 06:11 AM

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That's a good deal!

Robznob11 08-02-2018 11:38 PM

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So are the good fitting 2" cowl hoods out now. I have had pure heck with my current one. Never could get gaps correct. Pie cut it....and always suspected it was to long.....

GMCPaul 08-03-2018 05:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Robznob11 (Post 8314621)
So are the good fitting 2" cowl hoods out now. I have had pure heck with my current one. Never could get gaps correct. Pie cut it....and always suspected it was to long.....

Hi, Rob
Yes they are I'm surprised dad didn't come on and post about it ( although with moms pancreatic cancer chemo over with he's been kept rather busy taking care of her and getting her to all her appointments from the damage caused by cancer, Whipple surgery, and now the tremendous side effects of a extremely aggressive chemo treatment therapy that's destroyed muscles & bones) Thank GOD though she is in remission currently....... So we've all been burning the candles at both ends here trying to keep everything going smoothly.

67-68 Steel Cowl Hood NEW RELEASE MADE FROM ALL NEW TOOLING as of July 2018
Part # 19624414
Found on the following page of our web site
http://www.gmcpauls.com/cowl_hoods.htm
Now back to printing out last nights orders so they can be prepared to be pulled and shipped.
Paul Jr. @ GMCPauls

lolife99 08-03-2018 07:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GMCPaul (Post 8314686)
Hi, Rob
Yes they are I'm surprised dad didn't come on and post about it ( although with moms pancreatic cancer chemo over with he's been kept rather busy taking care of her and getting her to all her appointments from the damage caused by cancer, Whipple surgery, and now the tremendous side effects of a extremely aggressive chemo treatment therapy that's destroyed muscles & bones) Thank GOD though she is in remission currently....... So we've all been burning the candles at both ends here trying to keep everything going smoothly.

I'm getting ready to go thru the same, with my mom.
Shes waiting for the surgeon to call with a date for whipple surgery.
The last week has been emotionally draining.
And we are just getting started.
I'm glad your mom is in remission,...

GMCPaul 08-03-2018 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by lolife99 (Post 8314712)
I'm getting ready to go thru the same, with my mom.
Shes waiting for the surgeon to call with a date for whipple surgery.
The last week has been emotionally draining.
And we are just getting started.
I'm glad your mom is in remission,...

Keith I'm so SORRY to hear your going through the same as we've been through as it's such a aggressive cancer with the worst survival rates of any cancers with only 8%-21% surviving 5 years if they are lucky enough to be in the 15% that can even have the whipple procedure ( depends on treatment and who's doing treatment most places average 8-10% survival for 5 years with surgery). Early diagnosis and aggressive targeted treatment are keys to survival we've learned. Dad upon learning of it devoted days to weeks learning everything about it and treatments. Luckily they caught my mom's early ( June 2017 diagnosed, operated June 22nd 2017, chemo began 5 weeks later along with immunotherapy treatment and chemo treatments almost took her life 3-4 times) while the tumor size was right at 2cm, and only 1 lymph node involved. Make sure if at all possible she has whipple done at a hospital that does these regular as survival rates to survive surgery alone are far higher 90%+ at those that do them on a regular basis weekly compared to hospitals that only do a few a year having 15-20% survival rates on the surgery. Thankfully we had Bren Simon Cancer Center at IU in Indianapolis for her surgery and chemo and dad & her flew & drove to John Hopkins in MD for immunotherapy treatment. Be sure to ask the surgeon to have the cancer molecular profile done so they can do targeted chemo treatment based on those results.
PanCan is a excellent resource
https://www.pancan.org/
If you need further information on this or just support please contact me or dad through our email address robbinspd1199@yahoo.com
Dad's learned a ton and had the Dr's surprised on his in depth knowledge of treatments. Our families Prayers are with you now and in the future.....
Paul Jr.

jhrusk 08-03-2018 09:01 AM

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Prayers for all involved

jjzepplin 08-03-2018 09:50 AM

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Is there a standard hood available? Sorry about Moms. Dad is in remission for his 5th year from stage 4 lymph node cancer. We now pray hug and visit much more than we used to. Shipping to 33511?


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