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jlsanborn 05-22-2012 10:50 AM

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I've finally got the re-spray, baby crap brown stripped from the cab interior. Also got that crusty rocker panel off. A PO was a pretty crafty electrician. There were lots of "extra" circuits poked through little holes here and there. Once I got all that pulled out I was pleased to find that all the factory harnesses are in overall excellent shape. I've got a little metal work on the passenger door before I pull it from the cab, then it's firewall time.

67cheby 05-22-2012 10:53 AM

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nice work !

jlsanborn 05-23-2012 01:48 AM

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Thanks Cheby!
I know mine is way less intensive than a lot of rides on here, but my situation is way different. Originally, I picked this thing up thinking re-spray and small block. Can you say "scope creep". I've done pretty well balancing funds and time to keep the project rolling. Every screw I pull leads to more crust and grease and I just can't draw the line. There's not many screws left!
Today I folded and agreed with the knuckle-head that it makes no sense to paint all the tin and put that nasty old 292 and three speed back in. I've already made an offer on a M-21 and am going to put the ol' tugger on cragislist this week. I'll move ahead with the power steering mod and hydro-boost brake booster now. I'll be looking for a standard column too.

I've looked at the aftermarket shops for Muncie cross-members and came up dry. Any links to M-20, 21, 22 swaps??? I'm hopeful that my next picture post is one of me cuddled up with a Rock Crusher!

FrankieD 05-23-2012 08:43 AM

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You might want to think about a 5spd that way you get the overdrive and they should easy to come by, but you would have to do the slave cylinder.You could probably pick up an early 90's V-8 truck for what you will pay for a M-22 and you would have all the parts to do the swap plus a tbi engine. Just something to think about.

67cheby 05-23-2012 09:45 AM

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its gonna be cool, keep up the good work !

Krooked Kustoms 05-23-2012 11:44 AM

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Yeah it hard to stop pulling apart and replace things, I call em the "might as wells", while that's off might as well redo that haha that's why my cabs of the rails. Keep it up and I hope your wheels get back sooner than 6 weeks.
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jlsanborn 05-26-2012 10:43 AM

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Well here it is... 1969 M-20 four speed! :metal:
One of my worst Craigslist encounters yet, but after some dickering and FINALLY convincing the dude that it was NOT the close ratio box, snagged it for $460. The wife is on the coast so we cracked it open in the kitchen. Gotta get the sulpher stank outta here before she gets home today! It's gonna need gone through, but I think a basic kit will get it there.

What gears do you suppose with them 295s??? I've got a 3.08 one-tire-fire in there now. I believe the Camaros that came with M-20 were usually 3.30??? I had been planning the close ratio and 3.73, but I think that rear may be a bit low for this span. Not even sure yet what ratios are available for the 12 bolt.

Tinkermc 05-26-2012 08:08 PM

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I like what I've seen so far. work looks good and ideas are strong. Good luck.

jlsanborn 05-26-2012 11:20 PM

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Thanks for the words of encouragement! I'll tell ya, it's getting rough. Each day I open the shop and this thing is nothing but a tin can, yet its taking up the whole place. I've got crap stashed in there from hell to breakfast. Friends come by and say "holy sheet man! That's gonna take you forever to get back together!". I think we're on track though. There's a fuzzy vision of what its going to be and right now I can't think of anything that I'd rather be building. Well, a '69 L88 Stingray would be cool, but maybe we'll do that next!

Krooked Kustoms 05-27-2012 08:07 AM

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In the Kitchen!! I like your style!!! yeah i hate the days ya open the shed and think, is it ever gonna be done! then i just think how Sick its gonna be rolling down the main drag in it!! Keep it up. Cheers

jlsanborn 06-08-2012 11:19 AM

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Still chugging along here. We went through the gearbox with a basic kit. It could probably use another $1000 in parts to be perfect, but I think it'll do for now. Also picked up a Hurst shifter and learned a thing or two. These boxes changed in 1969 to use a screw to attach the shift arms, where the older units had a stud and nut arrangement. Of course the smokin deal I got on the shifter was for a 1968 model. I thought the shift arms would still fit, just having to use a screw instead of a nut.......:haha:........wrong! The slot is longer and there needs to be clearance added for the 3/8-16 screw. No problem, those cant be too much.......:haha:.........try $20 each! No problem, I can just file them to fit........:haha:........those things are harder than the hubs of hell! I ended up using my little 12v chainsaw grinder and about four of them little over priced stones, but :metal: fits like a glove now and easily rows through all four gears! We'll put this thing to bed for a while.
Also have the front end torn down and are starting to clean up the fire wall. Got the driver's rocker installed and now just have a little more body work to do then HOPEFULLY some primer here soon!

Tinkermc 06-08-2012 05:21 PM

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keep up the good work

jlsanborn 06-12-2012 01:18 AM

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Back to my least favorite part.....BODY WORK!. It's a necassary evil and I'm back to it. I don't mind the metal work, but the filler and SANDING sucks! I've done lots of sheetrock and hate the finish part of that too. Maybe I should texture this thing!? I'm going to be scared to death to paint this, fearing that my body work sucks. I know it does to some standards, but to mine???, we'll see. Single stage urethane or base / clear??? I'm getting close and am nervous!
The LMC rocker fit pretty well, but needed work at the hard-corners where the door rubber lays. After I fit and welded it in, it needed cut in those corners and zap welded home. It turned out sweet. The passenger door had a tiny bit of rot in the back/bottom corner, which I cut out and patched. Its solid now. We welded up all the PO holes in the dash and throughout the cab and the interior is looking smooth now. Still a few touches and I'm done inside. There's still a few dings left in the lid, yay! I'm staring at the oil-soaked, nasty, grimy firewall next, then the pile of doors, hood, grille, inners, etc... Gawd I wanna be done with this part and get to paint and assembly! The rest of you are kickin' arse and I'm proud to be a member! Oh ya, BUTTERNUT YELLOW with a white top!!! :metal: Gonna be sick with that Muncie!!!

VA72C10 06-12-2012 02:54 AM

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Looking good!

jlsanborn 06-16-2012 02:28 AM

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Still chugging along. Have I mentioned I hate bodywork? I've working on the back of the cab, roof and doors and had to take a break. The drip rail above the passenger door had a little rot. I've all along thought I would buy a replacement, but the boy convinced me to patch it. He's probably right in that the replacement would be cheesey and there was only a couple little spots that needed work. I made a little strip and got it fitting nice. I'll weld it in tomorrow. I had my Makita cordless drill AND my Milwaukee grinder crap out on me today :censored:

Tinkermc 06-20-2012 08:55 PM

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lookin good

jlsanborn 06-21-2012 12:49 AM

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More progress! The Wifey has been sick as a dog the last few days, so I took Tues and today off to keep an eye on her. Well, she's pretty much just sleeping, so I may as well hang in the shop! Got the passenger door hanging just right and finally pulled it from the cab. I have that door jamb detailed out and started on the firewall. I'm nearly there! Today the boy and I went shopping at Pull-n-Save. Found a '70 with nice rear cab molding and outside heater box - SNAG! Also plucked a hydro-boost brake assist from a '94 Astro and a power steering box from an '82 C10.

Props to the Boy!!! We got home and I had to get busy fixing chow, so I told him to just make the steering box fit. He's picked up the welding bit with very little instruction and a few "art" projects. I'd say he came up with a great plan and executed extremely well! Thanks dude, looks nice!

I've got more pics to put up and will soon.

Thanks to those that chime in! I appreciate you looking.

jlsanborn 06-21-2012 12:51 AM

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That's my boy!! :metal::metal::metal::metal:

jlsanborn 06-21-2012 01:02 AM

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So, he's pissed that I put them pictures up of his welds. I'd have to say that the only gripe is the little glob on the lower right, but that's where he was adjusting the wire speed when he just got started. I think it's stellar! Just so you all know, he smoothed that little booger off! There, happy dude!?
Thanks again! MAYBE I'll let you drive it!

jlsanborn 06-25-2012 12:58 AM

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More done this weekend! I've been reading Robnolimit's "Make it handle" thread. I'm a week in and only about half way through. That is one of the best threads I've read here yet. If you haven't DO IT. Lot's of awesome suspension info there. Having gotten half way through, we've learned a bunch and will incorporate some of that. We pulled the trailing arms back off and stitch welded them up. The boy is welding pretty awesome, so I put one of those pics up. We cut the trailing arm mounts off the cross-member and will flip them over to help correct pinion angle. This will also increase anti-squat. I think I'm going to start with a 5" spring out back, then build a lowering block for around another inch, but "wedge" it as needed to perfect that pinion angle. We will be doing a c-notch here soon and fabbing our own shock re-locate stuff as well as panhard rod mounts. I'm still hung between the 1" or 2" spring for the front (3-1/2" or 4-1/2" total).
I also got that hydro-boost installed. Thanks to Captain fab for the information he's put up and also to Oneoffstroker and his hyrdro-boost install thread. It was easy and looks clean!
I've also been cleaning and sanding that firewall and cowl. That part sucks!

fakerwade 06-25-2012 02:43 PM

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So, he's pissed that I put them pictures up of his welds. I'd have to say that the only gripe is the little glob on the lower right, but that's where he was adjusting the wire speed when he just got started. I think it's stellar! Just so you all know, he smoothed that little booger off! There, happy dude!?
Thanks again! MAYBE I'll let you drive it!

It's not how pretty you weld,,,it's how pretty you grind!!:lol:

Your build is looking great! Maybe next time I'm up there I can stop in and take a look??

jlsanborn 06-25-2012 05:53 PM

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That's funny because when he was a little sh*t he'd be in the shop with me like a shadow UNTIL he saw the grinder come out. He was terrified of that thing and would just BOLT into the house until it went quiet again. I still teas him about that - vrooooom!! vroooom!!

I'd love to show and chat about this stuff. Lemme know!

jlsanborn 07-04-2012 10:30 AM

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Have I mentioned that I hate body work? I'm calling the cab done! Doors, fenders, hood, grille and cowl all need sanded, but very little body work.
I have finally ordered springs (2" and 5"). I also ordered all four ball joints, cab and core support mounts and that cool panhard rod kit from No Limit. I'm also going to get his rear shock re-locate kit.
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fakerwade 07-06-2012 06:10 PM

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I have finally ordered springs (2" and 5"). I also ordered all four ball joints, cab and core support mounts and that cool panhard rod kit from No Limit. I'm also going to get his rear shock re-locate kit.
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Sounds like work!! Can't wait to see!!

jlsanborn 07-07-2012 12:13 PM

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Same here! Wifey decided it was time to GUT the main bathroom in the house, so the shop is once again a cabinet shop! I orderd up the No Limit rear shock relocate kit today and hope to have all those parts here soon! Maybe I'll have the tile done by then - sheesh! Kidding of course!;)

jlsanborn 07-08-2012 12:55 AM

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Springs came today! Got the tub in.
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jlsanborn 07-10-2012 01:15 PM

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More stuff arrived and the boy isn't waiting for me to finish the bathroom! The No Limit stuff is made well. I wasn't super excited about the hardware with grade 2 nuts and washers to go with the grade 8 screws, but no big deal. The chassis mount is not fitting real well but we'll make the tweaks we need to get it right. Think its possible that the LWB is a little different in that area than the SWB? I know the frame is not tweaked but when you bolt the two brackets together and bolt that assembly through the OG rivet holes, the vertical bracket on the side is not square with the frame rail. There should also be a spacer between the cross member and the 90 degree bracket. Overall, I'm impressed and happy with the product though! :metal:

68 TT 07-11-2012 01:21 AM

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Same here! Wifey decided it was time to GUT the main bathroom in the house, so the shop is once again a cabinet shop! I orderd up the No Limit rear shock relocate kit today and hope to have all those parts here soon! Maybe I'll have the tile done by then - sheesh! Kidding of course!;)

Great project. I wish my "helpers" were big enough to contribute like your son. Mine are too young to do much of anything right now.

I have the same problem with the wife adding more home projects to the list and taking away my truck time. :lol:

You are somewhere up the street from me as I am in Mead as well. Send me a PM if you need any help here and there. Did you see that fire this afternoon?

jlsanborn 07-11-2012 01:33 AM

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Just read that on the news. Poor old gal is in critical condition. I guess the neighbors could hear her screaming but couldn't get to her. Sad deal.
I'm just out on the State Park Drive. We should hook up sometime! The boy and I would love to eyball that Camaro of yours as well as the pickup. We could use a few pointers on our big block in the big truck as well!
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68 TT 07-12-2012 02:24 AM

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...I'm just out on the State Park Drive. We should hook up sometime! The boy and I would love to eyball that Camaro of yours as well as the pickup. We could use a few pointers on our big block in the big truck as well!

Sounds good. PM me and we can figure out a time that works for us all.

jlsanborn 07-18-2012 01:56 AM

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Made some progress. Well, the boy has. I got the sheetrock taped, drawers made and am starting on the fronts. Bla, bla, bla. Sounds like I'm crying, but that bathroom really was NASTY and needed done. Gotta keep Wifey happy too!
I never did get any response from Rob on the No Limit stuff. I posted, PM'd and emailed, but didn't call. I'm sure if I had gotten on the phone they would have helped. We just mounted the side bracket like it should be and welded the cross memeber and lower bracket. I only used about half the fastners sent with the kits. The grade 8 screws are nice but the grade 2 stuff to go with is really bad. I wouldn't put a kid's swing set together with hardware like that. I inquired about the rear sway bar kit, but only heard that "it's in production". I asked when they thought it'd be available but never heard back. I'll buy one when they're ready. I am happy with the parts - enough on that.
Lower control arm cross shafts SUCK! We didn't think twice about tearing them apart so I could relocate the locating hole and clean them up. Actually, the boy tore them down and told me it was a PITA, but it wasn't until we went to reassemble them tonight that I realized what he was talking about. SCOTI posted some help for someone that helped me out too. Once I realized how they actually even work I understood what he was saying and what it takes to put them together right. Those things are tighter than the hubs H-E-double hockey sticks! I never did get the dust seals back in where they are supposed to go. How the heck are you supposed to do that? I also read some business about upgrading to 73-87 down there? What's that all about?
I'll put some pics up in the next day or two.

jlsanborn 07-18-2012 01:59 AM

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Sounds good. PM me and we can figure out a time that works for us all.

Still would like to do that! We've been busy here with no end in sight. We'll be truck-shopping for the boy here soon, so maybe we can work in a visit on one of those days?

68 TT 07-18-2012 05:46 AM

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Still would like to do that! We've been busy here with no end in sight. We'll be truck-shopping for the boy here soon, so maybe we can work in a visit on one of those days?

Sounds good to me.

68 TT 07-18-2012 05:54 AM

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...I also read some business about upgrading to 73-87 down there? What's that all about?

They use a conventional style rubber bushing in the A-arms instead of the older style threaded shaft type like our trucks have.

69gmcc10 07-23-2012 01:31 PM

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I am currently converting to coils from leafs on my 69 and spent about 1/2 the day getting my no limit pan hard frame mount to fit like the instruction said. I think that there needs to be some better instructions on this thing. The first thing I did was line the vertical mount over the hole like the instructions said, mark and drill the holes, and I wish I wouldn’t have done that. I had seen several others installed and none lined up, but that is what the instructions said so I did it. Tolerances on the bolt holes are real tight and I didn’t want to Swiss cheese my frame so I had to massage some holes and blot it in 1 bolt at a time using a motorcycle strap to progressively ratchet and align the holes. Don’t align it on the oval in the frame, blot it like you had it use a ratchet strap to pull the mount back as far as you can mark the holes and drill them, you will save yourself allot of frustration.

This system is awesome and I am excited to use it, but it fought me for hours.

Look at this page for good pics on the mount that rob actually installed on his shop truck and you can see the hole dosent line up on his either.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=436621&page=7

jlsanborn 07-23-2012 02:01 PM

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I am currently converting to coils from leafs on my 69 and spent about 1/2 the day getting my no limit pan hard frame mount to fit like the instruction said. I think that there needs to be some better instructions on this thing. The first thing I did was line the vertical mount over the hole like the instructions said, mark and drill the holes, and I wish I wouldn’t have done that. I had seen several others installed and none lined up, but that is what the instructions said so I did it. Tolerances on the bolt holes are real tight and I didn’t want to Swiss cheese my frame so I had to massage some holes and blot it in 1 bolt at a time using a motorcycle strap to progressively ratchet and align the holes. Don’t align it on the oval in the frame, blot it like you had it use a ratchet strap to pull the mount back as far as you can mark the holes and drill them, you will save yourself allot of frustration.

This system is awesome and I am excited to use it, but it fought me for hours.

Look at this page for good pics on the mount that rob actually installed on his shop truck and you can see the hole dosent line up on his either.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=436621&page=7

Thanks for the feedback! My issue wasn't with the vertical piece but rather the angled part with the bar mounting holes. My frame is somehow a bit different that most. Rob sent me a "custom" lower bracket, but I had already modified the original one. My vertical bracket does line up with the slot. I'll get some pictures up here soon.
I also used the No Limit rear shock relocate kit and will be getting his rear swaybar when its available.

Low Elco 07-23-2012 04:39 PM

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Cool build! To heck with the truck, I want the bikes in the background!

jlsanborn 07-23-2012 06:25 PM

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Thanks for the look! I just went through your build and wish I had that kind of mo-jo. I'm just past the year mark and have miles to go.

Them are some dusty bikes! I'd love to get out there more but always busy.

Low Elco 07-23-2012 07:15 PM

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To reiterate: I like the truck, Too!

Low Elco 07-23-2012 07:21 PM

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Also, note that that truck does NOT belong to me, but is scattered over three garages and my sizable shed. It is also displacing my GMC. I love it, but it WILL be finished and it IS going home. To that end, doing something to it every day. I'll be updating with big progress momentarily. You are lucky, your kid is handlin' bidness!


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