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I envy you for bein' at the paint fume stage in a bit. I see your door layin there waitin to get sprayed. My doors just taunt me. Weld/grind/beat on us. You ain't gettin paint anytime soon.
Your kickn' a$$ and makin me motivated.:metal:

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Thanks for checkin John! I threw my stands on there and it looks like there's only one way they'll bolt up??? There are extra holes in the frame rails and the x-member but there ain't no way I could jockey my stands to fit in a different set. Must be different stands for different applications??? I guess that's not such a big deal if I don't have the right stands. I just don't wanna move the bell x-member if I don't have to. What's the "z bar" you're talking about? I don't recall anything like that on mine. Glad to hear you're good with the bell starter too. I'm thinking I'll just stick with what I've got. What about the bell dust cover? That fit up well for you?

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Thanks Bomp! I envy your ambition in stretching a truck cab!

I still have a bit to do, but not all that much. Finished the passenger door tonight and got a good start on the driver's. It's pretty clean so I expect to have that done in an hour or two. Fenders are near perfect with only a very small spot of rot on the passenger's down by the bumper. Hood is PERFECT except I gotta detail the underside. Cowl and grille are also perfect and went to the blaster's so that's really about it with respect to bodywork. I still have a heap of little bits to strip tho. If I had only made my own blast box!!! Should be busy this weekend, like I'm killin snakes! :lol:

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You have the right engine stands for a small block. as for the z-bar (prob has other names) it's easier to show ya :smoke:
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and the dust cover goes on easy enough, but I do remember scratchin some paint installing mine.

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Thanks again John! I'm with ya now on the z-bar. I'm trying to think back as to what mine looks like and how it attached to the ol' 292 block..... Can't be too hard to find if I need a different one for the small block.

Wifey has Facebook and I'll get her to pull up your page. Sure its real grey hair and not primered?

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More snake killin today, but one bit back! Blaster called today done :metal:. Stuff looks sweet but haulin a$$ home one inner decided to ditch the Crummy! Out the back at 50mph - damn! I thought it'd be thrashed but I can bring it back.

Why does everything take longer than you'd think?? That "good" door needed more work than I thought. The dimples or whatever you call them, where the flat-head door latch screws go were all pulled out. Had to weld, grind, dremel them back into shape. One of the door panel square-nut thingys was missing so I ground a nut down to fit and welded that in, found a small rot-hole in the corner, bla-bla-bla I'm three+ hours in and still prolly have two to go. Pulled that fender out that I thought had a "tiny" spot of rot. It's really a good chunk of the lower front corner under the battery thats kinda crusty. Prolly 8hrs is all! I got a good 5hrs in tonight and after chow just had to stop and clean up. All the tools wiped and away, cords and hoses wound up, benches swept and a broom down! I'll sleep better tonight.

Tomorrow we're building the tent so I can primer and paint the black stuff. That'd be rad support, inners, hinges, a few other small items and WHEELS!!!. Boy will take them to school to mount and balance them BFGs if they're not rotten yet!

Check back tomorrow dudes - more snakes to kill!

:chevy::chevy::chevy:

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Yay! Sorta cleaned up. This pickup is taking up my whole shop and then some. Tried like h-e-l-l to take a wide-angle, but can't caputure the whole mess in one shot. I can't imagine the tent taking up much space for the whole winter!!

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Sorry about the inner....love the overview of the shop...I need room like that!
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Man the mess that bodywork creates drove me nuts in my garage. that's a nice shop you have.

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Thanks man! Once this project is wrapped up I've got some great things in store for my man cave. Building lean-to's on both sides outside with half of one enclosed. That'll get the bikes, mowers, etc... outta there. Nice steel table for welding and such, more cabinets, lighting and a crane!

Seems like there's always something going on in there in addition to the truck. It don't take long and $hit is scattered. Drives me :bann: :bann: when it gets that way.

You're not working this weekend? Gonna get any truck time?

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Must-contain-shop-envy- you're bangin' away! I hate a dirty shop as well. Keep after it, you're makin' strides!

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I feel ya man. I too have felt like driving down the road pitchin parts. Hats off to ya for flingin metal :haha:
At times no matter how hard you try to keep a nice part nice the dent gods are out to put in there two dents worth.
Your totally Killin it on body work and snakes too. Nice sky view of the layout in your shop!

On a side note: are you going to the PIR swapmeet on Oct 13?

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Not working but my kid has a couple games. I'm hoping to get out in the garage tommorow and turn on Talladega and mess around with it some.
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Dude, sorry to hear about the flyaway part. It doesnt look to bad though, at least its not rusty. nice pic of the shop. makes me feel like I'm workin in a one car garage lol. I need to do another good cleanup, I just keep tellin myself it's organized chaos. Looks like you making some good progress, keep killin it !

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Thanks guys!

I was goin like mad yesterday then my old pal showed up for a visit. It was good to see him and the kids. Got the motorbikes out for a bit, but nothing painted. We did get the fun-dome done tho. Painting some $hit today!

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Not likely gonna make it to the meet, but if you go, put some pictures up of those Pacific Northwest Chevy's!!

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Cool little booth! Git ta sprayin'! Love that epoxy!

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I'm about there. That inner fixed up easy and actually looks better than the other now. Gonna clean up here first, scuff them wheels and start reading the paint data sheets. Man I hope I don't eff up this part! Film at 11:00 :metal:

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Oh, and my damn receiver/amp took a $hit so I'm without tunes!!!! Now I can hear them little voices in my head tellin me I'm gonna eff this up! May have to run to the pawn shop to see what they have!

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Yeah, Gotta have tunes ! and relax dude, just follow the mixing directions and youll do fine.:smoke:

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Johnny is officially a painter, but things could have gone better!

Things I learned today....

1) Spraying grey primer over sand blasted parts with less than perfect light and less than perfect eyes SUCKS. Some contrast would've helped this ol' boy.
2) Spraying parts that you've hung by wire from the rafters SUCKS. They spin, you dance around shooting at the dry spots and miss, you hold them with your hand and screw up what you've shot while you shoot yourself in the arm....
3) Epoxy primer is like effin SPRAY GLUE!
4) Some things from Harbor Freight are OK while others SUCK. The little baby regulator I bought to hang off my gun was awful, but the gun itself was pretty sweet. Threw on a different regulator that I already had and things smoothed WAY out.
5) Those rubber gloves that I have tons of and hate to wear cuz my hands sweat.....WEAR THEM! My hands are NASTY and I've scrubbed the bugeezus out of them. I'll be sanding them off in the shower tomorrow with that grinding rock / sharpening stone Wifey has in there.
6) My air compressor(s) will work sweet. I have two in parallel with the pressure switches set for a lead/lag arrangement and the backup never even kicked on. I installed a big filter/regulator at the tanks that caught a bunch of water, but there was still moisture at the end of my line. I used an inline filter/separator at the gun, so hopefully not much made it through.
7) My shop-vac ventilation system kicked a$$ but I bet the neighbor hates it. It's loud as all get-out and I had her full-whack from about 3:00 til 10:00.
8) This crap is MESSY!!! One drop smears a long damn ways. Way worse than oil.

The epoxy went down super slick! I was thinking I was a pro, THEN I mixed the color. Major orange peel boys!!!! I think the $hit was too thick but wasn't sure if I could reduce it with laquer thinner???? It's a single stage urethane that came with just the color and a hardener??? I fiddle phuked with the air pressure and spray pattern / intensity and got OK results, but I'm still effin bummed. Some pieces came out nice while others I hate (like the damn wheels!!!). There's NO WAY I'll spray Butternut on the body panels if I can't get this sorted out. Overall I'm stoked and pissed......... This crap is expensive to experiment with and winter is coming!!!

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Forgot number 9!!!!

9) When you make them little S-hooks out of nails to hang your spinny parts from the wires, make SURE they're S's and NOT Z's. Otherwise, while you're pretty little parts are spinning circles cuz you are trying to spray them they will slip off the little end of the nail and fall to the ground. F-bomb, touch the wet paint, try to "smooth" it out with your BARE finger, looks like H-E-L-L.... Get the picture?

Just went out for a peek and to stoke the fire. Been about an hour since spray and things flattened out pretty good, but still damn orange peel. Not as bad as the wet pic. I'll put up more tomorrow cuz its now time to hit the sack. Better leave the pants in the laundry room or we'll wake up high. Peeeeewheeeeeew!!

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Haaaaahaaaaaa! BTDT! Welcome to the club and congratulations on stepping Over, dear brother. I dont do NUTHIN without my gloves. Epoxy is like glue, but it's great when it's dry. The trick is not to psych yourself out. Wait till you shoot that yellow, your contrast goes away and you have to take it on faith that youre actually shooting what you think you are! Think slow, don't hurry. I have done everything you just posted multiple times, so don't sweat it. Wait till you Wetsand dirt out of your base coat with the Bud Light you're drinking! Looks good, keep it up!
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I would also recommend base clear paint on the nice parts. I have nO luck a tall with single stage. Also please please reconsider the shop vac vent. One spark and it's way bad juju. Stop by a hvac place and ask about a used squirrel cage. Preferably with the motor out of the path of the airflow.
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Hmmmm... the "flash back" is a scary thought. Already had a doozey BBQ accident this summer!

BTDT???? Is this a painter's acronym for what I'm doing wrong?

Reall think I'd do better with the BC/CC huh? I've never done any color sanding or buffing and thought the SS would mean shoot it and it's done. If it's all orange peely tho......

I popped in there this morning for a quick peek and the stuff looks WAY better. It did flatten out pretty good.

Thanks for the comments and advice!

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Looks good from here! :)

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Laid down good! BTDT= Been there, Done That. I always go bc/cc because something ALWAYS goes bad. Easy fix, a little sandy sandy, it's all good! Like I say, I'm a so so painter, but a HELL of a polisher. Long as I can halfway get it on right, it's all good! Like I said, just relax. Know things are gonna go in the crapper, and be calm when they do. It'll all be good, in the end. You've made the first jump off the cliff, it's all downhill from here!

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Oh yeah, git to the pawn shop! How the hell ya gonna paint without ZZtop and Foghat blasting? That just ain't American!

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Thanks Johnathan! I've been lurking your builds too. Looking good!

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I think your problem with the orange peel is either too low of air pressure or the paint is to thick. I know we all want it to cover in 1 coat but 2 or 3 thin coats work better and wait for the paint to flash or it will run from the wet build up. I went to this site and they will answer your painting questions. http://www.autobody101.com/content/

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Thanks for more good advice! I'll get a few better pics today after work. Wifey and I always go down to the tav for Monday Night Football, so prolly no truck time today. I work down here in the hood, so there's about ten pawn shops within five blocks! I'm going to look on my lunch hour.

If I put expoxy down, let it flash then hit it with hi-build, think I can let that sit for a while before I sand it and topcoat it or should I do the BC/CC right away?

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Nope, let the epoxy dry good. Scuff with red scotchbrite and shoot paint. Scuff with 150 of going to slick sand. It needs tooth like Bondo does.
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I think you're right there FrankieD. After I bumped the pressure up a little things went a lot better, but WAY too fast! I wanted to thin the paint some but wasn't sure if I could reduce it with laquer thinner??? The good news is that it layed down pretty good and I'm done with that color (well, almost). I think I'm going to follow Elco's advice and use a BC/CC for the pretty stuff. Thanks for chiming in!!

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Them buggers are PROUD of the junk they've got laying around!!! Too rich for my blood. Couple decent Yamaha's, but $100 and its missing the volume knob!? Found a craigslist jewel and am waiting for a call-back.

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Hey Johnny ! I think everything is lookin Good !! you will like bc/cc much better. easier to work with. Listen to Low elco, you can fix whatever might go wrong. :chevy:

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Thanks again guys! I'm convinced - BC/CC it is. Now, what product specifically???? The Boy gets a decent student discount through NAPA so I'm thinking that. What would you pay for a gallon of color (with the stuff) and a gallon of clear (with the stuff). They have all sorts of different products! What to get!? Plan is to epoxy everything. I'll paint right on that in places that I ain't gonna block, but I'll let it cure first then scuff it with the pad. As for body panels and such, don't you think a hi-build and more sanding will be worth the time??? I know you can't see my handy work, but it's pretty damn smooth (P180).

Got home today and pulled the wheels outta the fun-dome. They look pretty damn sweet to me! Tiny bit of orange peel, but nothing I'm gonna squirm over. The Boy will mount and balance on Wednesday! The first few parts I sprayed look like a$$. Underside of one inner is gonna have to be what it is, cuz I don't really give a rat's arse about under there. Front side of the rad support is also kinda crappy, but same deal. One topside of an innner is probably too ugly for me to swallow tho. I'll sand that sucker and re-coat.

Thanks again for the help and encouragement!!!

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Things look great and your gettin it on. Great Plastic House !
On my make shift booth I have an air inlet with a furnace filter vent. Basically a square hole to allow clean air in while dirty air gets sucked out. I use a squirrel cage with the motor on the outside. The squirrel fan is away from the booth and connected to 2 10' pieces of 4" plastic pipe(Home depot garden center). Try to keep the fumes away from any ignition source(electric motor). Maybe a bit overkill but I ain't never been blowed up.

Keep on Sprayin,,,,,,Looks Good!

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Thanks Bomp! I don't want blowed up neitha! Ya know, I got a fire burning like 10' away from the fun-dome. How common is the big huff!? It's got me a little worried now....:devil:

I'm also a bit concerned with the temp swing we've got going. It's just going to get worse too. If I get the metal and paint up to 60 degrees, then spray, keep it there for a few hours but then it gets down to freezing overnight.... Is that gonna suck? I wanna get this beotch painted so I can spend the winter putting it all together!

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you should be ok with the temps as long as you keep the temp up for a few hours after you spray. I've had cc lay out real smooth when its cold. it can take a little longer to be ready for cut and buff though. also paint fumes near open flame or spark are all about ppm. if you dont have a fog of fumes goin on near fire or sparks, you will be fine.

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For temps, I generally crank a propane heater (Mr. Heater) while I prep and get it as hot as possible, then blow the doors 1/2 way and hit the fans while I base, all the way while I clear, keep 'em open while I clean guns, then close up and flip the heat back on. I'm kinda paranoid of the sparky. On Yeller, I used Nason epoxy primer ($80 1/2 gal) Slick Sand Primer ($75 gal.) Dupont Chromabase (around $300/gal, but mixes 1/1, so 1 gal of color + 1 gal of reducer will almost do a whole truck) and Nason Clear ($140/gal.) I like Bomp's plan for venting. BTW, Bomp, you are KILLING me with your name! I had to blast Pantera all the way to work and I STILL have that damn doo-wop song in my head, and I HATE doo-wop! Well played, sir! Go to Napa and see what they carry. Lotta times they can get stuff they don't show. If your're just gonna paint bare metal parts with no sanding, you can hit it with Nason etch prime ($40/half gal.) let it dry a bit and scuff with scotchbrite and base/clear or whatever straight over it. Works great. Just get the gun in your hand and remember what Mike Lavallee (the originator and King of Truefire and a damn nice guy) says, "It's just paint. If it goes bad, I can sand it off and do it over. It's just paint."