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Javelin360 08-24-2019 03:05 PM

52 Chevy Brakes
 
I was told that the drum should separate from the wheel hub. What am I doing incorrect? Is the hub riveted to the drum? I'm having the same problem with the rear.

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mongocanfly 08-24-2019 04:24 PM

Re: 52 Chevy Brakes
 
did you try deadblow hammer?.try a hitting with ballpein hammer in between the studs .some they just stuck....has the truck been sitting a longtime? did you release the brake pads?...some newer model trucks have a countersunk screw holding drums and rotors

Javelin360 08-24-2019 04:50 PM

Re: 52 Chevy Brakes
 
Truck has been sitting for ten years but who knows how long it's been since the drums were off. A very large hammer is in use with lots of tension on the puller. I pulled the entire hub and drum off so I know the brake shoes are not the problem. I did try putting some heat where the drum meets the hub but all I have is a little propane torch.

Matt_50 08-24-2019 05:02 PM

Re: 52 Chevy Brakes
 
If the drums have a groove from the pads it won't slide off. How far did you back them off?

From the back you could maybe cut the retaining pins if you plan to replace hardware....

Usually I just beat the crap out of them, I go all around with a small sledge hammer. No light taps.

Javelin360 08-24-2019 07:03 PM

Re: 52 Chevy Brakes
 
I have used a hammer all the way around. I removed the spindle nut and removed the hub and drum as an assembly so I know the brake shoes are not the problem. The drum is seized to the hub I guess. I'll have to keep trying.

What are the three rivets for on the drum?

Matt_50 08-24-2019 07:23 PM

Re: 52 Chevy Brakes
 
Oh! I think I misunderstood. So you can remove the drum with the hub and leave the backing plate and shoes still on the truck? Did you see those three rivets through on the back of the hub?

Matt_50 08-24-2019 07:30 PM

Re: 52 Chevy Brakes
 
Those rivets arnt usually replaced, so I'm surprised you have them. Grind them off and punch them out or drill them out. I wouldn't bother replacing them.

Javelin360 08-24-2019 07:32 PM

Re: 52 Chevy Brakes
 
I'll have to pull the hub again and look for the rivets.

Matt_50 08-24-2019 07:34 PM

Re: 52 Chevy Brakes
 
Yea, if you can pull it off they. Grind or drill them out and call it good.

Javelin360 08-24-2019 07:34 PM

Re: 52 Chevy Brakes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt_50 (Post 8581501)
Those rivets arnt usually replaced, so I'm surprised you have them. Grind them off and punch them out or drill them out. I wouldn't bother replacing them.

So those rivets are holding the drum to the hub?

mongocanfly 08-24-2019 07:42 PM

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Matt_50 08-24-2019 07:45 PM

Re: 52 Chevy Brakes
 
Yea if you pull it all off again you should see rivet heads on opposite side of hub. You don't have too remove them... but replacing brakes or maybe getting drum turned would sure be easier.

Javelin360 08-24-2019 08:06 PM

Re: 52 Chevy Brakes
 
Do the rears have the same set up?

Matt_50 08-24-2019 08:10 PM

Re: 52 Chevy Brakes
 
I wouldn't be surprised since you have rivets on the front. Can you remove the hub and drum the same way? Does it have three nubs like the front?

Javelin360 08-24-2019 08:15 PM

Re: 52 Chevy Brakes
 
I'm pretty sure it can't be removed the same as the front as I think it is a one piece axle.

Matt_50 08-24-2019 08:27 PM

Re: 52 Chevy Brakes
 
I only took apart the factory front, and I'm using a different rear end. Can you provide a picture of the rear drum?

mr48chev 08-25-2019 02:20 AM

Re: 52 Chevy Brakes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Javelin360 (Post 8581521)
Do the rears have the same set up?

No the rears just come off the hub but unless you are going to replace the drum WHY are you trying to pull the drum off the hub rather than pulling hub and all? It is the pits to do a brake job with that hub in the way and you have to pack the wheel bearings anyhow.

mr48chev 08-25-2019 02:23 AM

Re: 52 Chevy Brakes
 
On those rivets, a lot of guys end up grinding them off when they mount aftermarket wheels or even some later model wheels on that hub/drum combo because the rivets keep some wheels from fitting flush.

Again, there is no viable reason to remove the drum from the hub unless you are replacing the drum.

Javelin360 08-25-2019 07:16 AM

Re: 52 Chevy Brakes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mr48chev (Post 8581645)
No the rears just come off the hub but unless you are going to replace the drum WHY are you trying to pull the drum off the hub rather than pulling hub and all? It is the pits to do a brake job with that hub in the way and you have to pack the wheel bearings anyhow.

I've never worked on this era of Chevy truck before and I don't recall ever working on a vehicle with drums on the front all of my other vehicles have had disc brakes on front. I initially assumed that the drum should just pop off like it would the rear. I even called and spoke to someone at CCTP and they informed me that the drum should separate from the hub. All of the pictures on CCTP show just a drum without a hub in the center. So here I am trying to separate the two.

Now that I've got some help from more knowledgeable folks I'll cease trying to pull the drum and just remove the hub from the spindle.

1948ChevyDumpFixer 08-25-2019 08:26 PM

Re: 52 Chevy Brakes
 
yeah, not many riveted drum/ hub combos left, probably


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