[hotrod1]

You are right. The 60 needs to be built and you always are a little sketchy about it lasting. It weighs about 60-80 lbs less but I heard that they are OK up to 450.

The 80 is bullet proof as it is. Build it a little bit and it will handle what ever you throw at it, with in reason. I dont ever want to worry about it again. That is why I went with a 80 and a for 9 from curry. Drop the hammer.....every time.