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Fixit-p: thank you for the response, and yes I was aware of the two pivot, though I have not gotten a chance to view one in person. I figured there would be some math and some trial and error in the two pivot points. I have Downloaded the Stellar install manuals and looked at everything I can find on line. I noticed the increased pressure they are running at but I still wonder if they NEED to or if they just chose to, as i am sure a dump truck lift cylinder can do the job, I mean the power is a function of pressure and area.... I would think you could design a large enough cylinder to use the lower pressure and more readily available (cheaper) hydraulic system.

thanks again for the drawing the more info I can get the better off I am.

Dan