No Limit Wide-Ride C10 IFS 63-87

[Wasted Income]

Rob...a few questions regarding my install on my wide-ride for my 72 K/5.

First a bit of feedback. The instructions that come with the kit are very lacking when it comes to specifics for the 63-87 kit. The printed instructions, as well as the DVD are centered around 50s chevy truck installations, which are significantly different than the later trucks (boxing plates, specific measurements, etc).

As such, I've had to rely on the photos in this thread to guide me along thus far.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=507066&page=2

1) Judging by these two photos, it appears as though I have the upper arms on backwards.



My upper arm (driver side)


Can you confirm this is installed on the wrong side?

2) What is the wheel travel supposed to be for this suspension? I am only getting about 3-3.5" of vertical travel at the spindle shaft before the front of the lower arm contacts the crossmember and limits upward travel. On downward travel, the balljoint binds, and limits the travel. Thoughts?

All the way "down"


You can kind of see how the lower balljoint is binding up and limiting downward movement.


All the way "up" with the lower arm contacting the crossmember.


Like i mentioned, from all the way "down" to "up" the travel at the spindle shaft is about 3.5". Seems to me that it should be more?

3) I am mocking it up right now, with spindles attached, so that I can locate the crossmember relative to axle center line (there are no holes that line up, since this is a 4x4 frame). Is there a location on the crossmember that is coincident with the centerline of the spindle (wheel centerline)? I have my frame marked, but if I had a spot on the crossmember to line up, without having to project the spindle back to the frame, I'd feel much more comfortable about my measurements before I start drilling holes.

An example of what I'm asking for is below.


For instance if we say that the red line that passes thru the balljoint grease zerk is coincident with the axis of the spindle shaft, can you provide a measurement on the crossmember that would help locate the centerline of the axle on the frame? Assuming it's solid modeled, it should be an extremely easy number to find.


4) Does the 63-87 kit come with the stainless braide brake lines that are shown in the kit for the earlier trucks? My kit doesn't have them, and was just wondering if that's by design, or if they were left out?


I hope you don't mind me posting this here instead of PMing or calling, but I figured anyone else in the future who runs into similar problems might be helped out by it.

Thanks Rob,
Jeff

[fatgump]

I will take some more pictures tonight and post them

[Wasted Income]

Originally Posted by fatgump

I will take some more pictures tonight and post them

It looks like you installed the arms differently than the NoLimit guys did.....both are shots of the passenger side. On theirs, the "wide" part is toward the rack....yours is toward the cab. I have mine installed like you do, with the wide part toward the cab.





Gump, do you know how much travel you have before there is any interference or binding?

[fatgump]

I will check tonight and let you know.

[Guam671]

Originally Posted by Wasted Income

Rob...a few questions regarding my install on my wide-ride for my 72 K/5.

First a bit of feedback. The instructions that come with the kit are very lacking when it comes to specifics for the 63-87 kit. The printed instructions, as well as the DVD are centered around 50s chevy truck installations, which are significantly different than the later trucks (boxing plates, specific measurements, etc).

As such, I've had to rely on the photos in this thread to guide me along thus far.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=507066&page=2

1) Judging by these two photos, it appears as though I have the upper arms on backwards.



My upper arm (driver side)


Can you confirm this is installed on the wrong side?

2) What is the wheel travel supposed to be for this suspension? I am only getting about 3-3.5" of vertical travel at the spindle shaft before the front of the lower arm contacts the crossmember and limits upward travel. On downward travel, the balljoint binds, and limits the travel. Thoughts?

All the way "down"


You can kind of see how the lower balljoint is binding up and limiting downward movement.


All the way "up" with the lower arm contacting the crossmember.


Like i mentioned, from all the way "down" to "up" the travel at the spindle shaft is about 3.5". Seems to me that it should be more?

3) I am mocking it up right now, with spindles attached, so that I can locate the crossmember relative to axle center line (there are no holes that line up, since this is a 4x4 frame). Is there a location on the crossmember that is coincident with the centerline of the spindle (wheel centerline)? I have my frame marked, but if I had a spot on the crossmember to line up, without having to project the spindle back to the frame, I'd feel much more comfortable about my measurements before I start drilling holes.

An example of what I'm asking for is below.


For instance if we say that the red line that passes thru the balljoint grease zerk is coincident with the axis of the spindle shaft, can you provide a measurement on the crossmember that would help locate the centerline of the axle on the frame? Assuming it's solid modeled, it should be an extremely easy number to find.


4) Does the 63-87 kit come with the stainless braide brake lines that are shown in the kit for the earlier trucks? My kit doesn't have them, and was just wondering if that's by design, or if they were left out?


I hope you don't mind me posting this here instead of PMing or calling, but I figured anyone else in the future who runs into similar problems might be helped out by it.

Thanks Rob,
Jeff

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[robnolimit]

1. This is the correct position of the UCA in the base configuration. This nets 3 to 6 degrees + caster. (The UCA is designed so that it can be swapped side-to-side. It can be installed with the 'short tube' forward OR the 'long tube' forward. Also, the aluminum cam can be flipped end-to-end, 'wrench flats' to the back, or to the front)
A) Short tube forward, wrench flats back, 3* to 6* +caster.
B) Long tube forward, wrench flats forward, 5* to 8* + caster.
C) Long tube forward, wrench flats back, 7* to 10* + caster.

2. Down travel will be limited by the coil-over, not the ball joint. "Up" travel loks limited by the port in the crossmember. I suggest using a die grinder to carefully increase the clearance for the LCA tube. Check travel with the shock installed (no spring).

3. Use the center of the main crossmember, it is 4" wide, so, 2" in from the front or back, as the new IFS C.L.

4. Brake hoses are not included with the kit.

Hope this info helps.