Scotts bolt in rack or no limits

[68steppsidee]

i know both products are great. Im building a 68 bagged c10 i want to be able to drive it as low as possible and still maintain good ride quality and overall performance. anyone have first hand experience with either kit. Thanks!!

[jephs422]

I won't try to sway you one way or the other...but if you have any specific questions, please feel free to ask here or call direct.

[jmedero]

I went with a Scott's front end. Here is the install thread that might answer any questions.
Juan
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=497124
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[dan42]

I will be getting mine back from Justin soon - I will post on how it handles. I intend to drive the heck out of the truck. He's doing both the front and back suspension, among other things. I can't wait!

[68steppsidee]

scotts seems good as far as jmedero;s 3.5 install time with no grinding ive talked to some board members about no limits and theyve had some problems but im still indecided

[lolife99]

Originally Posted by 68steppsidee

i know both products are great. Im building a 68 bagged c10 i want to be able to drive it as low as possible and still maintain good ride quality and overall performance. anyone have first hand experience with either kit. Thanks!!

Personally,... I would buy a Porterbuilt Mild or Extreme Dropmember and use a 79-93 mustang rack.
Adding a rack to the stock crossmember doesn't gain you much.
You still have terrible ground clearance issue for a bagged truck.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=546895

[jmedero]

The Scott's xmember kit is a really nice unit. You can't go wrong with it.

[jmedero]

Why is that your choice Keith? What do you see wrong with the Scott's unit? Or the no limit unit?
Just curious.
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[lolife99]

Nothing wrong with Scotts or the No Limit bolt in crossmember.
Both great products.
BUT the OP ask about a bolt in rack steering.
I can't see spending $800+ dollar just to add a rack to a factory crossmember that hangs too low.
For a little over $1k you can get the Dropmember that will work with your existing a-arms and spindles and allow you to use a production 79-93 Mustang rack.

Just my opinion.
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[lolife99]

$849 for the No Limit version.
http://www.nolimitparts.com/prodinfo...ber=3GC-FT-500
Great for stock height trucks or mild dropped trucks.

[lolife99]

Performance Online also sells one for $1249 but comes with the P/S pump, reservoir, and hose kit.
http://www.performanceonline.com/196...nd-Pinion-Kit/

[lolife99]

Flaming River has a 73-87 kit for $2600.
It includes everything.
(pump, hoses and brackets)
http://www.flamingriver.com/index.ph.../s0008/FR318NC

I'm not sure why they specify 73-87.
Basically the same frame.

[jmedero]

I'm sure he's talking about full xmember set ups. I know the install thread link I posted is of a full crossmember set up. Dan also has the full kit. If you wanting to go really low then crossmember swap is what is best.
My opinion, you know what they say about that lol.
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[lolife99]

I don't see a bolt in rack from Scotts Hot Rods,... so maybe the OP was talking about bolt-in crossmembers.

[lolife99]

Originally Posted by jmedero

I'm sure he's talking about full xmember set ups. I know the install thread link I posted is of a full crossmember set up. Dan also has the full kit. If you wanting to go really low then crossmember swap is what is best.
My opinion, you know what they say about that lol.
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I guess the title got me:
Scotts bolt in rack or no limits

I agree,... swapping crossmembers is the way to go,...

[DollaBill]

Originally Posted by lolife99

Personally,... I would buy a Porterbuilt Mild or Extreme Dropmember and use a 79-93 mustang rack.
Adding a rack to the stock crossmember doesn't gain you much.
You still have terrible ground clearance issue for a bagged truck.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=546895

I would go with a Porterbuilt as well. Don't have my own yet, but have ridden in my buddies and its unreal. He said the install was straight forward and can't believe how nice it rides.

I am sure the other kits are nice, but I have first hand experience on how a Porterbuilt rides.
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[68steppsidee]

yeah sorry for the confusion its definetly for the crossmember. Porterbuilt is very nice i have there rear c notch , i just figured the scotts or no limits bolts on so hell its gotta be straight forward and an easy apllication just dont have the oney layig around and want the best overall products and fuctionality for the money

[lolife99]

Originally Posted by 68steppsidee

yeah sorry for the confusion its definetly for the crossmember. Porterbuilt is very nice i have there rear c notch , i just figured the scotts or no limits bolts on so hell its gotta be straight forward and an easy apllication just dont have the oney layig around and want the best overall products and fuctionality for the money

If you just have a c-notch I would suggest the Mild Porterbuilt Dropmember.
Completely bolt-in.
Look at this thread:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=550463.

[PBFAB.COM]

Originally Posted by 68steppsidee

yeah sorry for the confusion its definetly for the crossmember. Porterbuilt is very nice i have there rear c notch , i just figured the scotts or no limits bolts on so hell its gotta be straight forward and an easy apllication just dont have the oney layig around and want the best overall products and fuctionality for the money

We offer two versions that are 100% bolt in. The extreme version is the only one that requires the notching of the frame for rack and pinion clearance. Feel free to ask us any questions regarding the different variations.

Each product has its benefits. Keep doing your research so you can make an informed decision before you spend your hard earned cash, as any front end conversion requires a bit of an investment.

Nate
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[jmedero]

"Each product has its benefits. Keep doing your research so you can make an informed decision before you spend your hard earned cash, as any front end conversion requires a bit of an investment."

Amen to that. Time, money and space. Then remember tranny xmember, gas tank, so many other things to consider.
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[68steppsidee]

yeah im trying to make sure ive got a muncie 4 speed with clutch linkage off the firewall and a z bar off the block. will all this work with your extreme dropmember nate??

[PBFAB.COM]

Originally Posted by 68steppsidee

yeah im trying to make sure ive got a muncie 4 speed with clutch linkage off the firewall and a z bar off the block. will all this work with your extreme dropmember nate??

Yes it will work.... but will require a couple mods. Nothing major, but we have experience with this swap and this is what you need to do:

When running the extreme Dropmember, the motor is going to move slightly forward and upward. This will require the z-bar mount to be slightly raised. It will also require the clutch linkage rod (that passes through the firewall) to be tweaked a little. Nothing major, but a little bit of work. We would also need to make sure you received the older style shock mounts, as our new style will interfere with the z-bar pivot mount on the frame.

I am not 100% sure as I have zero experience with the other kits mentioned (other than what I have read on this forum) but I would verify if the motor placement changes or remains the same. From what I have read on the No Limit kit, it too moves the motor from it's original location. I would assume that the Scott's kit does the same, but recommend discussing this with the vendor to confirm or deny.

Our Touring kit and Mild kit move the motor less, so the z-bar mod and linkage mod would be minimal in those applications. You should give us a call if you have a chance so we can discuss the pros and cons of the different kits we offer... just to make sure we can get you the best recommendation that will fit your project/build goals.

Nate

[chevjayfsd]

Does this get you a "tight" steering feel? I can't stand the slop in the steering in these trucks.

[PBFAB.COM]

Originally Posted by chevjayfsd

Does this get you a "tight" steering feel? I can't stand the slop in the steering in these trucks.

The rack conversion, along with the increased castor of the Dropmember will increase steering feel and tighten up the steering a bit.

[68steppsidee]

thanks nate!