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Need input on coilover kit
Howdy. I have a 68 swb fleetside that I want to put a full front and rear coilover kit on. Im looking at these cpp kits and just wanted some input. Pros, cons... opinions on price... and so forth. If you have either or both of these kits on your truck, do you recommend them? Do these kits have everything I need or will I need to make other purchases? I was also looking at the QA1 kits but they are priced quite a bit higher. Just looking for some good, solid info before I pull the trigger. Thank you very much.
http://www.classicperform.com/coilov...387FCO-K-B.htm http://www.classicperform.com/coilov.../rear-kits.htm
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Re: Need input on coilover kit
Just received the QA1 kit today looking forward to installing it. Looks real nice.
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Re: Need input on coilover kit
Could someone enlighten me on the point of these coilover conversions? Not being critical of people modifying these trucks, as some seem to obsess over. I really want to know. I will admit my reason for asking, or having any trace of negativity is these trucks already ride on coils and have always had a reputation for their superior ride. If there is something to learn here, please teach me.
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Re: Need input on coilover kit
I just ordered a CPP Front Coilover kit for use with factory control arms, part #6387-COK-2A-550. Unfortunately it's on BO for two more weeks! The reason I went with the kit was ride, handling and 5" height adjustability. The kit comes with Viking shocks and hardware. There's a good write up on the install of the kit with the CPP tubular control arms in the Oct 2018 edition of Classic Trucks.
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Re: Need input on coilover kit
I have a 70 c10 I'm going to put front and rear coilovers on. I am considering Ridetech, No Limit or QA1. I am interested in knowing what the clearance is on the front crossmember and lower control arms.
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Re: Need input on coilover kit
I have been putting money aside for the QA1 kit myself. I have never installed one on these trucks bit I have installed plenty of different brand kits on g-bodies and qa1 gets my vote.
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Re: Need input on coilover kit
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Re: Need input on coilover kit
I really like the looks of the QA1 front and rear kits. The videos I've seen of them being installed makes them look fairly easy to work with. It's just the price that has made me look hard at the CCP kit. Still kicking it around. It's only money, right?
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Re: Need input on coilover kit
Shop around the QA1 stuff is cheaper at Jegs and Summit racing then it is on the QA1 site by a lot!!
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You are correct in the superior ride quality of these trucks in stock form. However I personally like the look of these truck riding lower. For me I personally use my truck as Daily and will never carrier anything more than weekend travel essentials and a cooler. so for me converting to a coil over suspension is all about the look. However I have driven several of these trucks both stock and with the QA1 Suspensions and let me tell you that relocating the coil spring to behind the axle and having the shock as far outboard as where QA1 mounts the shock. improves the ride and handling of the truck even more. |
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I am working on installing the third kit currently on a 67 C15, I have previously done a 64 full kit and a 65 rear kit using the stock trailing arms, this truck has CPP front stuff as that is what was available at the time. I personally liked the fit and finish of the QA1 better and I feel there support is also better. The only down side to a QA1 kit is that they only work with SQUAREBODY spindles because QA1 builds the control arms to the larger ball joint spec as these use a "custom" QA1 low friction ball joint. So if you are not planning on changing the spindles. you will have to look else ware. |
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Re: Need input on coilover kit
There's a statement that usually stands true with a few exceptions. You get what you pay for.
Will the cpp stuff work. More then likely Is it less engineered and lower quality. Yes. CPP is the harbor freight of the parts world. Which is absolutely ok and fine for some and not for others. It really comes down to how much you want to spend and what you're comfortable with. |
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Re: Need input on coilover kit
What is everyone doing for the qa1 rears? With the trailing arms or without? There is a big price difference
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Re: Need input on coilover kit
I bought the QA1 kit without the rear arms. I am very happy with the install so far. I will not be doing any auto crossing with it. Got mine at JEGS cheaper than others.
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Did this kit work out for you? Did you have to modify your factory arms? Thanks |
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Re: Need input on coilover kit
I have QA1 front and rear. I already had solid rear control arm so so I did not go with there’s. My Sons truck has the rear control arms, the nice thing about them is you can easily change pinion angle. I bought the full front and rear suspension with sway bars because I was tired of not finding a shock I really liked, seems I was always sacrificing something with the way it rode I now have 18 selections to choose from. Hugh difference in Handling and Ride.
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Re: Need input on coilover kit
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I'm 101% w/you on the 'Why?' of swapping to C/O's for these trucks that already have coils @ all four corners since they work great as-is. But the ability to dial in the spring rate to what the driver/owner wants is a strong attraction. You might be ok w/stock coils 'as-is' ride feel where I might want something slightly stiffer/softer.... For this reason, I get it. But, the reality is how many actually take advantage of the C/O swap to truly dial things in vs defaulting to what comes w/the 'kit' per manufacturers recommendation/spec?? Twist the knob on the shocks. Easy enough to do. But how many actually try different spring rates (which is where the C/O swap offers more tunability)? One of the main things I don't like about some of these recent kits is the fact that in order to keep things 'bolt-on', it limits the dimensions of the C/O. Those dimensions impact the shock & coil length which can & does impact the ride quality. Any impact on ride quality requires more tuning knowledge & sometimes (many times?) it might require compromising spring rate or shock adjustments to find a happy-medium. The longer the spring & shock, the better the ride quality in most cases. Any bolt-on kit that doesn't include re-worked upper/lower mounting locations are a waste of time & money IMHO. Quote:
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