pdx-sanity66

[siggyfreud]

Wow, sounds like the mounts were pain in the butt. Given the power some of us put through these motors it's hard to believe they're held snug by one bolt on each side. Have a link to what you ordered? I see perches and weld-in mounts. They go together I take it?

[Captainfab]

The engine and trans looks good sitting in the frame

I hope you took those motor mounts back and got a refund. I've never been too crazy about this style of motor mount. That is why I typically go with the '73+ clamshell style of motor mount. They are a much better design.

[63sbssbbw]

When I scavenged my '75 clip , I made sure to take the perches too , just in case.
Any tricks to shortening them to fit??
T

[pdxhall]

Originally Posted by siggyfreud

Wow, sounds like the mounts were pain in the butt. Given the power some of us put through these motors it's hard to believe they're held snug by one bolt on each side. Have a link to what you ordered? I see perches and weld-in mounts. They go together I take it?

Yeah, they were a pain alright. I wouldn't recommend anybody using the old stye mounts. They're built really bad. The perches and mounts I got are CPP perches but I got them through their ebay site for a real good price.

Originally Posted by Captainfab

The engine and trans looks good sitting in the frame

I hope you took those motor mounts back and got a refund. I've never been too crazy about this style of motor mount. That is why I typically go with the '73+ clamshell style of motor mount. They are a much better design.

Thanks, John. I did take one pair back but the ones I originally got from Summit would cost me more than the parts to ship back.

Originally Posted by 63sbssbbw

When I scavenged my '75 clip , I made sure to take the perches too , just in case.
Any tricks to shortening them to fit??
T

Good plan. Sounds like a much better option. I'm not using those so I can't give you any info on shortening them.

Here are the perches I got. The same ones that many on the site have used.

[Bomp]

Motor looks great.
Are your headers or exhaust manifolds going to clear?
drive line length ?
Definitely has clearance for the radiator.

[Bigru]

Great build! Keep up the good work.

[pdxhall]

Originally Posted by Bomp

Motor looks great.
Are your headers or exhaust manifolds going to clear?
drive line length ?
Definitely has clearance for the radiator.

Hey Greg, it's good to hear from you. Of course I've been following along with Steiner and you've gone way past what I could even imagine . The exhaust headers are no problem, I'm using the Tru Ram manifolds and there's a ton of room to get at things and run the pipes off of the collectors. I've been wanting a set of those since they first came out and when I saw them on some of the trucks on the board, I was even more convinced. The driveline length will need to be changed but it was going to need to be anyway with the 700r4, so it will actually need to be shortened less, if that matters.

Originally Posted by Bigru

Great build! Keep up the good work.

Thanks for looking in, man. I've got a long ways to go and the encouraging words really help with the motivation thing.

After much thought, and checking, and asking for opinions, I think the engine stays in the forward position. I just like the looks of it there and it seems and now there will be plenty of space at the firewall and a slightly lower center of gravity.
Today I needed some thinkin' time so I plugged in the headphones and went to the garage and tore apart my driveshafts. They are in excellent shape and the u-joints were all good, but the carrier bearing was another story. That thing had been worn out for quit awhile. I've got to decide which way to go with them. New everything or get the one original shortened, and get new u-joints for both and balance and of course carrier bearing.
I'll probably go new. Price and budget come in to play and I could always upgrade later if I want.
Anybody want to talk me into one or the other?

[pdxhall]

So, I picked up a driveshaft last weekend from a 2000 Silverado and took it in to have it rebuilt, shortened and balanced. I also stopped at a couple of places looking for a used flexplate dust cover for my 700r4. I never realized it would be so difficult. About the only thing I've seen for sale aftermarket is chrome and I don't want chrome. I stopped by the Chevrolet dealer near me to see if they had one and no luck there. But...............
this is what I bought and will be sitting in my driveway tomorrow.

[siggyfreud]

Thing is massive. Could buy the chrome cover and etch/prime/paint it.

[mark 66]

Nice truck, what are you going to be pulling with it?

[Bomp]

Holy Smokes....
Me likey......Way to goooooo

[pdxhall]

Originally Posted by siggyfreud

Thing is massive. Could buy the chrome cover and etch/prime/paint it.

Yeah it's big but it's what I need. I've about decided to do just that, much simpler than running around looking any more.

Originally Posted by mark 66

Nice truck, what are you going to be pulling with
it?

Thanks Mark. I'm not pulling much yet but I've go less than a year before retirement and we're planning on an 11' camper and a lot of traveling when that happens and then after we get tired of that we may get a fifth wheel and we'll be set up for that, too. I got too good of a deal to pass up and I need time to get everything set up so I decided to go ahead and do it now.

Originally Posted by Bomp

Holy Smokes....
Me likey......Way to goooooo

Thanks, man. I can't wait to get it. They had to bring it down from Washington. There wasn't a 3500 dually within 150 miles of Portland. I'm just waiting for the call for pick up.

[1963c-10]

So the CPP mounts would only work in the forward position? Why not just drill the hole where you need it in the crossmember to keep them in the rear position?

[pdxhall]

Originally Posted by 1963c-10

So the CPP mounts would only work in the forward position? Why not just drill the hole where you need it in the crossmember to keep them in the rear position?

It was about 9 pm the night I discovered they weren't going to fit in the correct holes and the engine was dangling on the crane. I put them in the front location just to get the engine weight off of the crane for the night. When I saw how it fit (which I like better) I decided to leave it. I had to drill 2 more holes for the trans mount and the driveshaft was going to need to be shortened anyway so no loss there.

[siggyfreud]

Originally Posted by pdxhall

It was about 9 pm the night I discovered they weren't going to fit in the correct holes and the engine was dangling on the crane. I put them in the front location just to get the engine weight off of the crane for the night. When I saw how it fit (which I like better) I decided to leave it. I had to drill 2 more holes for the trans mount and the driveshaft was going to need to be shortened anyway so no loss there.

How far forward does it put it? I picked up the same mounts. My driveshaft is already the right length for the stock position and a 700r4, but now wondering if I'll need to lengthen it if the engine moves forward.

[1963c-10]

I'll be running mine in the rear position, just the way I've planned/mocked this build. I'll see what firewall clearance I have once its mocked in the frame. If position is good I'll work the firewall around the covers. Probably would have been easier if I had gone w/swp, but I had all the fixings to run a lwp and it allowed more money on the engine build. I'll be getting there in a few weeks. Working on the donar crossmember swap/disk brake conversion/new front suspension part currently.

[lawest]

Nice build, I followed a link to your thread from another one that was talking about different options for under bed tanks. I am trying to figure out if a 60-65 Falcon or Mustang tank will work in my '69. Do you happen to know if the frame rail spacing is the same from your truck to mine? Also, what are you doing for a sending unit? Sorry for the sidetrack.

[pdxhall]

Originally Posted by 1963c-10

I'll be running mine in the rear position, just the way I've planned/mocked this build. I'll see what firewall clearance I have once its mocked in the frame. If position is good I'll work the firewall around the covers. Probably would have been easier if I had gone w/swp, but I had all the fixings to run a lwp and it allowed more money on the engine build. I'll be getting there in a few weeks. Working on the donar crossmember swap/disk brake conversion/new front suspension part currently.

I see no reason you should change it if you like it where it is. I'm using a long pump also, with an electric fan and space is not an issue. I've been following your build. The front end looks great.

Originally Posted by siggyfreud

How far forward does it put it? I picked up the same mounts. My driveshaft is already the right length for the stock position and a 700r4, but now wondering if I'll need to lengthen it if the engine moves forward.

It moves it forward about 2 1/2".

Originally Posted by lawest

Nice build, I followed a link to your thread from another one that was talking about different options for under bed tanks. I am trying to figure out if a 60-65 Falcon or Mustang tank will work in my '69. Do you happen to know if the frame rail spacing is the same from your truck to mine? Also, what are you doing for a sending unit? Sorry for the sidetrack.

Thanks for looking in. I don't know the frame rail spacing but I think I've heard that yours is wider. The sender is still a question. I know of a place that I can get the mustang one changed to the correct resistance but they are a little spendy. I'm looking at some other options I might try to.


I've just been "buying and bolting" lately. I've picked up several engine necessities and I also finally located the flexplate dust cover I've been looking for. All of a sudden one showed up at Summit in powder coated black steel. The first I have been able to find except the chrome stuff. Just not a lot of choice for the 700r4 it seems. There wasn't a picture with the listing so I emailed them and they had me a photo back in a few hours. I bought it and a few other things and it took less than 3 days to get to me. I've bought quite a bit from them and they usually have a good price and in my experience great customer service. Ya think that'll get me something free? Not really. It's just nice when you can get good service and I believe in recognizing that.

[bj383ss]

Looking good. Thanks for the info on the cover. I need to get one of those as well.

Bret

[lawest]

Thanks for looking in. I don't know the frame rail spacing but I think I've heard that yours is wider. The sender is still a question. I know of a place that I can get the mustang one changed to the correct resistance but they are a little spendy. I'm looking at some other options I might try to.

Mine is 28" between top flanges of the frame rails, would you mind measuring your tank to see if it would fit? I really appreciate it.

[pdxhall]

Well, I just got back from vacation. A week and a half in Akumal, Mexico getting some much needed sunshine. Drank a lot of Tequila, ate good food, and did a bunch of snorkeling. Now it's back to harsh reality of real life. Not much to update but tomorrow I start 3 days off and hope to get some stuff done. The water pump I bought was wrong so I sent it back and got another. I fitted up my driveshaft and I need to take it back and have the rear section shortened a little more, and I picked up a couple of fittings I needed to complete the brake plumbing so I hope to get that done, also. The weather is starting to warm up so I will be back on the body work again. Next is to get the cab flipped back upright and get the firewall patching done so I can get the cab back on the chassis and start fitting up the fenders, etc. So that's the plan for the next while.

[NEWFISHER]

Welcome back to the liquid sunshine of Oregon

[siggyfreud]

Indeed! I'm actually in Phoenix right now on business and am reluctant to return to the rain.

[TJ's Chevy]

Welcome back to the Oregon rain! LOL! I'm jealous!!!!

[pdxhall]

Originally Posted by NEWFISHER

Welcome back to the liquid sunshine of Oregon

Thanks, man. The rain I didn't miss and we had a great time but it's nice to be back and working on the truck

Originally Posted by siggyfreud

Indeed! I'm actually in Phoenix right now on business and am reluctant to return to the rain.

I hope you had a great trip and got some of that sun.

Originally Posted by T.J. MCCAULEY

Welcome back to the Oregon rain! LOL! I'm jealous!!!!

Thanks, T.J.

Well, I did get some stuff done this last weekend but not as much as I had wanted. We have been looking for a new camper and we drove up to Kelso, WA to check one out on Friday and then came back and looked at the other one we had picked out. We had it narrowed down to just 2. We are planning of retiring in about 10 months and we want to travel around the US and other places and we want something that we can get in to places that you can't drag a trailer. I mentioned earlier that I had traded my Tundra in on a 2014 Silverado 3500HD 4x4 dually and the next step was the camper. Saturday we bought Lance 1170 2 slide out camper. We are now one step closer to our goal!
This also puts more pressure on me to get stuff done on Sanity during this next year.

I did manage to work on the serpentine system some more and it's starting to come together. I've got everything fit up except the power steering pump. I am rebuilding it first and I ordered a new reservoir for it. I am also going to replace the idler pulleys. I cleaned up the alternator and had it tested to make sure it was good before installation and I got a AC compressor dummy pulley and bracket to use. I cleaned up some casting marks and and got it painted. I got my replacement water pump and got it and the pulley mounted also. The front of the motor is almost complete.
Since the weather is starting to warm up some I also decided to get back to body work so I can get the cab flipped back up right and the set back on the frame soon after. There was one spot just above the dimmer switch and one spot under and around the Steering shaft hole that needed to be cut out and patched. I got them cut out and the patches fit up but ran out of time to drag out the welder so that will be next weekend.
I didn't have time to take some pics before going to work so I'll try to post a few tomorrow.