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**Yukon Jack** · 01-09-2010, 01:12 AM

The Zero Rates from Offroad Design are designed to give one additional inch of lift for the rear axle - it also gives you the option to move the axle back or forth one inch by way of offset spring pin holes.

The shackle flip I put on my 69 K20 was designed to give 4" of lift. When I did my lift I used 4" Tuff Country EZ Ride front springs and the combination left my truck's rear end a bit lower than the front. Not sure if my stock rear springs were sagging some or the front springs gained more than 4".

swyfor5 · 01-09-2010, 05:29 PM

Ok, thank's guy's. I get it now! I think I'll go with the DIY 4X4 shackle flip n switch kit, I just like the looks of it better than ORD's shackle flip. Get a pair of ORD zero rates and a set of ORD u-bolt kits. Looking at the yokes on frt end, rear end, t-case, and driveshafts frt & rear. Want to beef all of them up to run the stoutest u-joints possible. Now that I think about this swap, it really isn't that compicated. Just need to aquire the right parts and assemble! Anybody else running the DIY 4x4 shackle flip n switch on a 1 ton axle? Pic's?

1949gmc · 01-09-2010, 05:38 PM

Where are you at that Green Bay was an 18 hour trip? I thought you were in the U.P....? Good lookin' axles, by the way.

swyfor5 · 01-09-2010, 06:38 PM

Thank's. I live in Marion, lower peninsula. About 2 1/2 hrs from Big Mac bridge, in good weather. Could have met with the seller in Oxford, Wis. That would have sent me your way, down thru Chicago. Would have been a little shorter, but I avoid traffic at all costs! I "ALWAYS" go north when I can! Thank's about the axles, it's been a long project, and I am very pleased to have this pair here finally. I don't know what the weather was like on new years day down there, but it wasen't that great going along the lake Michigan shoreline. Lucky to have a good pickup for the roadtrip. As of now trying to set enough cash aside to set these axles up right!

Droptopchevy · 01-10-2010, 12:25 AM

Please post all pics,I am thinking of doing the same swap in April some time, so all info u post will be used. My 74 will get a 14 bolt with a flip and what ever it takes to get road ready. It has a 4 in front rough country spring on it right now on 36 Irocks but it just got 2 cold 2 work on right now. I also have got a 1" tranny drop I will think of putting on if needed,so I can run stock drive shaft. Keep up the good work.

1tonblaze · 01-11-2010, 11:27 AM

yeah i know its a little hard to understand what all i have in mine but the total lift is 8 inches in the rear total and 7 in the front . thursday i will have pics been kinda hard to get to the shop to take pics .

swyfor5 · 01-11-2010, 04:58 PM

Yea, after looking at ORD's and DIY 4X stuff, I have a plan. Pretty much know what I will need to set this up, just need the cash. Always like to see pic's! Would like to see some good pic's of a first gen shackle flip w/zero rate setup.

swyfor5 · 01-13-2010, 09:17 PM

I think I've got the axle/suspension setup "thought out", now need to move on to steering and brake setups. Leaning toward just a 1 ton vac booster/master cylinder combo for 4 wheel disc brakes on the new axles. Looking at the crossover setup from ORD. Any pic's of your setup guy's? Planning on 40" tires , so plans do change.

Burt4x4 · 01-14-2010, 10:57 AM

WFO crossover/highsteer w/PSC Hydro assist

I don't have any better pics at the moment..my original picture gallery is still MIA...

wildwood · 01-14-2010, 12:32 PM

I'm doing almost the same thing right now. I got a 60 / 14 from an 84 Chev 1ton. Luckily I didn't have to drive that far. Actually the guy breought them to my house. $1200 for the combo 456 gears. Wasn't a bad deal. Probably normal I guess. It's going under my 71 Blazer.

I'm keeping the 4.5" lift blocks on the back with add-a-leaf springs. 6" springs on the front. That setup was working well on my other truck with 44 / 12. 2" body lift, cut fenders, 38" tires. I already have all this stuff from my other truck (which I smashed into a tree).

Gotta do the body work first tho.

What's a drive line e-brake? I'm doing a disk conversion also on the 14. I was thinking of using the caddy calipers as suggested for e-brake, but I also would rather not have the extra cables down there.

What are you doing for steering correction? I was using a 4" drop pitman. I found that I couldn't turn all the way to the stops tho, so I'm thinking of adding a steering arm block as well.

**FRENCHBLUE72** · 01-30-2010, 09:04 PM

Id give west texas off road a call they should be able to hook you up with everything you need for crossover and hydro assist last time I checked they were still in business

swyfor5 · 01-31-2010, 09:21 AM

Thank you very much for the link, FB72! I apprieciate your help. Just looking at all my options to set up the right system.

litebulblsc · 02-03-2010, 11:11 AM

It looks like Burt is running a Ford setup where as Kurt runs both the tie rod and cross over link to the arm on the knuckle.

Burt4x4 · 02-03-2010, 11:41 AM

I guess you could call it a Ford setup but I would rather compare it to the full size Jeep Wagons than a Ford

vtblazer · 02-03-2010, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by litebulblsc

It looks like Burt is running a Ford setup where as Kurt runs both the tie rod and cross over link to the arm on the knuckle.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burt4x4

I guess you could call it a Ford setup but I would rather compare it to the full size Jeep Wagons than a Ford

and here I was the one running the Ford HP Dana 60

C'mon Burt...no pics this time?

Thought you & I had a running race going on for the biggest picture whore.

Burt4x4 · 02-03-2010, 11:55 AM

hahaha! I love pics!

There you happy?

vtblazer · 02-03-2010, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burt4x4

There you happy?

Always...when you show off your ride.

litebulblsc · 02-04-2010, 10:58 PM

I though ord only sold a 4'' shackle flip

swyfor5 · 02-05-2010, 06:21 PM

You are right my man. Just talked with them and they only make the 2.5 for 73 and up. Looks like a 4" flip for me, I'll just watch the shackle angles. May have to move the flip bracket forward a little?

swyfor5 · 02-05-2010, 09:24 PM

Looking into DIY 4X's "wraptor" axle wrap setup, and looks like nothing available for 69-72 first gens. I ask: WHY? A big market for this kind of stuff out there! Any ideas?

vtblazer · 02-06-2010, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swyfor5

Looking into DIY 4X's "wraptor" axle wrap setup, and looks like nothing available for 69-72 first gens. I ask: WHY? A big market for this kind of stuff out there! Any ideas?

Doesn't need to be for our year, it just needs to fit the axle.
(14bff)

That yellow K5 tub I worked on had one on it.

swyfor5 · 02-06-2010, 05:43 PM

Thank's VT.

**FRENCHBLUE72** · 02-11-2010, 11:15 PM

Try blackbird customs I think is his screen name....

**Yukon Jack** · 02-12-2010, 10:05 AM

Did you make a decision yet on which hi-steer to go with? I'm in the middle of deciding on crossover at the moment too.

swyfor5 · 02-12-2010, 09:07 PM

Talked to ORD, and I think I'm going to go with thier crossover setup w/hydro boost. After talking to them about the high steer setup, I don't think I "need" it at this point. It puts a lot more pressure on the steering arms and for my usage I should be good to go without it. I really don't plan on any "serious" rock crawling where I would need the tie rod up that high. Should have enough lift with my suspension, axles,and tire wheel combo to keep from battering it up. Plus, can always upgrade to it later! Also for now saves some funds for other areas.

01-09-2010, 01:12 AM	#1
Yukon Jack Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA Posts: 12,683	Re: Ready to go 1 Ton/K5 The Zero Rates from Offroad Design are designed to give one additional inch of lift for the rear axle - it also gives you the option to move the axle back or forth one inch by way of offset spring pin holes. The shackle flip I put on my 69 K20 was designed to give 4" of lift. When I did my lift I used 4" Tuff Country EZ Ride front springs and the combination left my truck's rear end a bit lower than the front. Not sure if my stock rear springs were sagging some or the front springs gained more than 4". __________________ 1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift 1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile 2012 Kawasaki Concours 14

01-09-2010, 05:29 PM	#2
swyfor5 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Marion, Mi. Posts: 2,429	Re: Ready to go 1 Ton/K5 Ok, thank's guy's. I get it now! I think I'll go with the DIY 4X4 shackle flip n switch kit, I just like the looks of it better than ORD's shackle flip. Get a pair of ORD zero rates and a set of ORD u-bolt kits. Looking at the yokes on frt end, rear end, t-case, and driveshafts frt & rear. Want to beef all of them up to run the stoutest u-joints possible. Now that I think about this swap, it really isn't that compicated. Just need to aquire the right parts and assemble! Anybody else running the DIY 4x4 shackle flip n switch on a 1 ton axle? Pic's?

01-09-2010, 05:38 PM	#3
1949gmc Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Lindenhurst, IL Posts: 659	Re: Ready to go 1 Ton/K5 Where are you at that Green Bay was an 18 hour trip? I thought you were in the U.P....? Good lookin' axles, by the way. Last edited by 1949gmc; 01-09-2010 at 05:39 PM.

01-09-2010, 06:38 PM	#4
swyfor5 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Marion, Mi. Posts: 2,429	Re: Ready to go 1 Ton/K5 Thank's. I live in Marion, lower peninsula. About 2 1/2 hrs from Big Mac bridge, in good weather. Could have met with the seller in Oxford, Wis. That would have sent me your way, down thru Chicago. Would have been a little shorter, but I avoid traffic at all costs! I "ALWAYS" go north when I can! Thank's about the axles, it's been a long project, and I am very pleased to have this pair here finally. I don't know what the weather was like on new years day down there, but it wasen't that great going along the lake Michigan shoreline. Lucky to have a good pickup for the roadtrip. As of now trying to set enough cash aside to set these axles up right!

01-10-2010, 12:25 AM	#5
Droptopchevy Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Pocola,OK Posts: 12	Re: Ready to go 1 Ton/K5 Please post all pics,I am thinking of doing the same swap in April some time, so all info u post will be used. My 74 will get a 14 bolt with a flip and what ever it takes to get road ready. It has a 4 in front rough country spring on it right now on 36 Irocks but it just got 2 cold 2 work on right now. I also have got a 1" tranny drop I will think of putting on if needed,so I can run stock drive shaft. Keep up the good work.

01-11-2010, 11:27 AM	#6
1tonblaze Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Carroll County Maryland , Posts: 828	Re: Ready to go 1 Ton/K5 yeah i know its a little hard to understand what all i have in mine but the total lift is 8 inches in the rear total and 7 in the front . thursday i will have pics been kinda hard to get to the shop to take pics . __________________ 1970 k/5 blazer--> money pit - 14bolt dana 44 350 sm465/205 36 14.50 16 tires 1972 nova plane jane 6 clyinder might sell might keep dont know 2004 chevy s-10 crewcab zr5 sold 1985 c20 chevy long bed , beater , on its way to a better place in pa from what the dmv told me 2010 kia forte koup 2.4 sx -over the river and threw the woods to the total lot it went . 1999 k1500 suburban 350 vortec 4l60e leather land yacht .

01-11-2010, 04:58 PM	#7
swyfor5 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Marion, Mi. Posts: 2,429	Re: Ready to go 1 Ton/K5 Yea, after looking at ORD's and DIY 4X stuff, I have a plan. Pretty much know what I will need to set this up, just need the cash. Always like to see pic's! Would like to see some good pic's of a first gen shackle flip w/zero rate setup.

01-13-2010, 09:17 PM	#8
swyfor5 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Marion, Mi. Posts: 2,429	Re: Ready to go 1 Ton/K5 I think I've got the axle/suspension setup "thought out", now need to move on to steering and brake setups. Leaning toward just a 1 ton vac booster/master cylinder combo for 4 wheel disc brakes on the new axles. Looking at the crossover setup from ORD. Any pic's of your setup guy's? Planning on 40" tires , so plans do change.

01-14-2010, 10:57 AM	#9
Burt4x4 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 1,842	Re: Ready to go 1 Ton/K5 WFO crossover/highsteer w/PSC Hydro assist I don't have any better pics at the moment..my original picture gallery is still MIA... __________________ 1972 K5 MPFI454/Sm465/Np205/D60/14FFd/Re-Centerd H1s w/Swamper Iroks

01-14-2010, 12:32 PM	#10
wildwood Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Calgary AB Posts: 110	Re: Ready to go 1 Ton/K5 I'm doing almost the same thing right now. I got a 60 / 14 from an 84 Chev 1ton. Luckily I didn't have to drive that far. Actually the guy breought them to my house. $1200 for the combo 456 gears. Wasn't a bad deal. Probably normal I guess. It's going under my 71 Blazer. I'm keeping the 4.5" lift blocks on the back with add-a-leaf springs. 6" springs on the front. That setup was working well on my other truck with 44 / 12. 2" body lift, cut fenders, 38" tires. I already have all this stuff from my other truck (which I smashed into a tree). Gotta do the body work first tho. What's a drive line e-brake? I'm doing a disk conversion also on the 14. I was thinking of using the caddy calipers as suggested for e-brake, but I also would rather not have the extra cables down there. What are you doing for steering correction? I was using a 4" drop pitman. I found that I couldn't turn all the way to the stops tho, so I'm thinking of adding a steering arm block as well. __________________ You can't get out if ya don't get in

01-30-2010, 09:04 PM	#11
FRENCHBLUE72 PROJECT 7DEUCE Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: GRANTS PASS OR Posts: 21,590	Re: Ready to go 1 Ton/K5 Id give west texas off road a call they should be able to hook you up with everything you need for crossover and hydro assist last time I checked they were still in business __________________ GO BIG GREEN GO DUCKS MEMBER #6377 72 k-5 daily driver 6'' lift 35'' 350-350-205 slowly getting rust free. Project "7DEUCE" check out my build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=267665 Tim Powell..R.I.P EastSideLowlife..... R.I.P..

01-31-2010, 09:21 AM	#12
swyfor5 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Marion, Mi. Posts: 2,429	Re: Ready to go 1 Ton/K5 Thank you very much for the link, FB72! I apprieciate your help. Just looking at all my options to set up the right system.

02-03-2010, 11:11 AM	#13
litebulblsc Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: LaSalle Mi Posts: 499	Re: Ready to go 1 Ton/K5 It looks like Burt is running a Ford setup where as Kurt runs both the tie rod and cross over link to the arm on the knuckle.

02-03-2010, 11:41 AM	#14
Burt4x4 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 1,842	Re: Ready to go 1 Ton/K5 I guess you could call it a Ford setup but I would rather compare it to the full size Jeep Wagons than a Ford __________________ 1972 K5 MPFI454/Sm465/Np205/D60/14FFd/Re-Centerd H1s w/Swamper Iroks

02-03-2010, 11:55 AM	#16
Burt4x4 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 1,842	Re: Ready to go 1 Ton/K5 hahaha! I love pics! There you happy? __________________ 1972 K5 MPFI454/Sm465/Np205/D60/14FFd/Re-Centerd H1s w/Swamper Iroks



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02-04-2010, 10:58 PM	#18
litebulblsc Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: LaSalle Mi Posts: 499	Re: Ready to go 1 Ton/K5 I though ord only sold a 4'' shackle flip

02-05-2010, 06:21 PM	#19
swyfor5 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Marion, Mi. Posts: 2,429	Re: Ready to go 1 Ton/K5 You are right my man. Just talked with them and they only make the 2.5 for 73 and up. Looks like a 4" flip for me, I'll just watch the shackle angles. May have to move the flip bracket forward a little?

02-05-2010, 09:24 PM	#20
swyfor5 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Marion, Mi. Posts: 2,429	Re: Ready to go 1 Ton/K5 Looking into DIY 4X's "wraptor" axle wrap setup, and looks like nothing available for 69-72 first gens. I ask: WHY? A big market for this kind of stuff out there! Any ideas?

02-06-2010, 05:43 PM	#22
swyfor5 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Marion, Mi. Posts: 2,429	Re: Ready to go 1 Ton/K5 Thank's VT.

02-11-2010, 11:15 PM	#23
FRENCHBLUE72 PROJECT 7DEUCE Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: GRANTS PASS OR Posts: 21,590	Re: Ready to go 1 Ton/K5 Try blackbird customs I think is his screen name.... __________________ GO BIG GREEN GO DUCKS MEMBER #6377 72 k-5 daily driver 6'' lift 35'' 350-350-205 slowly getting rust free. Project "7DEUCE" check out my build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=267665 Tim Powell..R.I.P EastSideLowlife..... R.I.P..

02-12-2010, 10:05 AM	#24
Yukon Jack Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA Posts: 12,683	Re: Ready to go 1 Ton/K5 Did you make a decision yet on which hi-steer to go with? I'm in the middle of deciding on crossover at the moment too. __________________ 1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift 1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile 2012 Kawasaki Concours 14

02-12-2010, 09:07 PM	#25
swyfor5 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Marion, Mi. Posts: 2,429	Re: Ready to go 1 Ton/K5 Talked to ORD, and I think I'm going to go with thier crossover setup w/hydro boost. After talking to them about the high steer setup, I don't think I "need" it at this point. It puts a lot more pressure on the steering arms and for my usage I should be good to go without it. I really don't plan on any "serious" rock crawling where I would need the tie rod up that high. Should have enough lift with my suspension, axles,and tire wheel combo to keep from battering it up. Plus, can always upgrade to it later! Also for now saves some funds for other areas.

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