The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > Heavy Haulers

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-17-2014, 03:15 PM   #26
big_r101
Registered User
 
big_r101's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Parker,CO
Posts: 110
Re: Heavy Machines powered by GM diesels or Detroits

I had known that, i meant more modern tractors with detroits, somethin to compete with ih, j.i.case and deere, as well as ford. I suppose the closest would be the kinze repowered deeres, those all had detroits, some i think were v12's.
__________________
1998 Ford Ranger FX4, 3.0 V6, 5 speed manual
1999 Ford Explorer, 4.0 V6, 5 speed auto O.D.
2005 Chevy Colorado, 3.5l inline 5, 4 speed auto
2001 Gmc sonoma 4.3l V6, 4 speed auto
soon to have 1981-88 k30
big_r101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2014, 06:36 PM   #27
Bob B.
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 1,348
Re: Heavy Machines powered by GM diesels or Detroits

Quote:
Originally Posted by C10 - C90 Bill View Post
Yeah, Ford got their share of Detroits, but you could actually get one in just about any truck, American Made anyway. I've seen some interesting combinations, although not real sure they were all factory, but a Detroit in a B-Model Mack is pretty interesting and I've also seen a 6-71 in an R-Model Mack. They put plenty of 8V-71's in them, but a 6-71 is pretty rare in an R.

Bill
Wow, I have never seen a 6-71 in a Mack R. Not saying they didn't build any, I just have yet to see one. Roadway had a lot of Mack R's with 8V-71's in them, that was one of their standard line-haul tractors for many years. Even had some later version R's with 6V-92TA's.
__________________
1967 GMC CM-2500 Camper Cruiser, 351E V-6, NP 435 4 speed, Dana 60, and factory A/C. 2012 GMC K-3500 WT regular cab, 6.0L Vortec, 6L90.
Bob B. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2014, 07:34 PM   #28
C10 - C90 Bill
Registered User
 
C10 - C90 Bill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Moneta, VA USA
Posts: 3,082
Re: Heavy Machines powered by GM diesels or Detroits

Yeah, the R-Model with the 6-71 was running around back in the 80's. Even then I questioned if it was original or not. I would had guessed it was owner installed, but I never got a chance to talk to the driver.

I used to ride in a '70 R-700 with an 8V-71 and a 5 X 4 Trans. That was one heck of a truck. It had little short mufflers on the Dual Stacks and sure sounded sweet.

Bill
__________________
'60-'72 Chev/GMC Fan
GMC 9500 Fan
Detroit Diesel Fan
C10 - C90 Bill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2014, 08:09 PM   #29
big_r101
Registered User
 
big_r101's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Parker,CO
Posts: 110
Re: Heavy Machines powered by GM diesels or Detroits

I wonder if a 6-71 could be installed in a 73-87 truck, that would be pretty sweet.
__________________
1998 Ford Ranger FX4, 3.0 V6, 5 speed manual
1999 Ford Explorer, 4.0 V6, 5 speed auto O.D.
2005 Chevy Colorado, 3.5l inline 5, 4 speed auto
2001 Gmc sonoma 4.3l V6, 4 speed auto
soon to have 1981-88 k30
big_r101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2014, 09:30 PM   #30
C10 - C90 Bill
Registered User
 
C10 - C90 Bill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Moneta, VA USA
Posts: 3,082
Re: Heavy Machines powered by GM diesels or Detroits

Quote:
Originally Posted by big_r101 View Post
I wonder if a 6-71 could be installed in a 73-87 truck, that would be pretty sweet.
In a 2-Ton Truck, it would be a tight fit and a lot of custom work, but it is possible. A 6V-53 would be a better choice. A 4-53 was actually a factory option in certain years of that era.

Bill
__________________
'60-'72 Chev/GMC Fan
GMC 9500 Fan
Detroit Diesel Fan
C10 - C90 Bill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2014, 04:49 PM   #31
stomper
Junior Member
 
stomper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Posts: 1,701
Re: Heavy Machines powered by GM diesels or Detroits

Quote:
Originally Posted by special-K View Post
How about heavy machinery powered AND built by GM? The Euclid TC12 was the baddest crawler tractor on the planet starting in '55 (55-68-Euclid/68-74-Terex). Twin 6-71s and two Allison 3spd Torqmatics mounted in a split frame that allowed each side to oscillate over uneven ground. Suspension...what? The controls required were but simple. Two levers and two pedals. One pedal each side for brakes and one lever each side controlled steering and throttle for each engine. Steering was done by the amount of throttle to each side. So it could spin on a dime with one throttle forward and one throttle back. I've herd guys talk about these for years and there's a lot of love out there for these,yet. I spotted one along the hiway on our way up to Macungie this year. Hmmmm.... How bad do I need that?
My Dad operated one of these. He said it took 3 low boy semi trailers to move a TC12. One for each half and one for the blade.
__________________
"I was patina when patina wasn't cool."
1973 Cheyenne SWB Sunset Gold / Frost White / Saddle
stomper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2014, 04:53 PM   #32
stomper
Junior Member
 
stomper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Posts: 1,701
Re: Heavy Machines powered by GM diesels or Detroits

Quote:
Originally Posted by special-K View Post
Euclid...GM 1953-1968 till the Fed made them change things up,which is when Terex got started. I grew up with Euclids and was fascinated by them.
TC-24? Engine in the front and back.
__________________
"I was patina when patina wasn't cool."
1973 Cheyenne SWB Sunset Gold / Frost White / Saddle
stomper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2014, 06:34 PM   #33
38 tow
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Utah
Posts: 4
Re: Heavy Machines powered by GM diesels or Detroits

In Iraq I drove one of these.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_E...Tactical_Truck

Mine was the M984 Wrecker. there wasn't much that I asked it to do that it couldn't do.

Funny story, I had a muffler go bad on us out in the field so we straight piped that bad boy for the last 100 miles of the convoy.
The sound of that turbo spinning up is still music to my ears.
38 tow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-03-2014, 10:57 PM   #34
C10 - C90 Bill
Registered User
 
C10 - C90 Bill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Moneta, VA USA
Posts: 3,082
Re: Heavy Machines powered by GM diesels or Detroits

Quote:
Originally Posted by 38 tow View Post
so we straight piped that bad boy for the last 100 miles of the convoy.
They could probably hear you for miles and miles.

Sure is a pretty big rig.

Bill
__________________
'60-'72 Chev/GMC Fan
GMC 9500 Fan
Detroit Diesel Fan
C10 - C90 Bill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2014, 06:44 PM   #35
Cape Codder
Registered User
 
Cape Codder's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Centerville,Ma.
Posts: 1,223
Re: Heavy Machines powered by GM diesels or Detroits

Heavy at 30'00 lb's and has a 671




The blue one behind it has a 471. Both belong to my brother
Cape Codder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2014, 12:55 AM   #36
mrolds88
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: WV
Posts: 946
Re: Heavy Machines powered by GM diesels or Detroits

Don't forget the military especially in WWII http://usautoindustryworldwartwo.com...oit-diesel.htm
__________________
72 GMC C2500 402/Th400 first truck (still have)
77 GMC C3500 CC dually Sold
70 C50 dump truck "Rusty"
87 K10 Suburban Sold
93 K2500 xcab 6.5TD
96 GMC K2500 Suburban 6.5 TD
mrolds88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2014, 02:17 AM   #37
C10 - C90 Bill
Registered User
 
C10 - C90 Bill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Moneta, VA USA
Posts: 3,082
Re: Heavy Machines powered by GM diesels or Detroits

Great Link there mrolds88.

If only half of American industries, had half the pride that they had in their corporation, it sure would be a different country today.

Bill
__________________
'60-'72 Chev/GMC Fan
GMC 9500 Fan
Detroit Diesel Fan
C10 - C90 Bill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2014, 11:41 AM   #38
alsriv2
Registered User
 
alsriv2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Formerly MD and San Diego, now loving life in Arizona
Posts: 1,636
Re: Heavy Machines powered by GM diesels or Detroits

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob B. View Post
All very impressive, but I think I have you beat:

http://www.oerm.org/collection/santa-fe/atsf-98

Don't forget, GM founded EMD, one of the largest manufacturers of diesel-electric railroad locomotives. This particular locomotive is an FP45 from 1967. It has a turbocharged 20 cylinder EMD 654 diesel of 3,600 h.p.. These engines are similar to Detroits in that they are 2 stroke, and the '654' designation stands for the cubic inch displacement of one cylinder! I volunteer at that museum, and have had the pleasure of not only working on that particular locomotive (it is currently being restored) but operating it as well.
Hello Bob!

Thanks for sharing this. As a new resident to So Cal, I will be coming up and taking a look at the Museum's operations.
__________________
Alan

2012 Ram 3500 Dually Crew Cab 6.7 Cummins
2014 Palomino Columbus 340RK 5th wheel
'69 Chevy C10 396BB
alsriv2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2014, 11:30 PM   #39
MalibuSSwagon
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Weare,NH
Posts: 1,592
Re: Heavy Machines powered by GM diesels or Detroits

Saw this on my local craigslist. Talk about a monster.

http://nh.craigslist.org/hvo/4743969133.html
MalibuSSwagon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2014, 12:01 AM   #40
Cape Codder
Registered User
 
Cape Codder's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Centerville,Ma.
Posts: 1,223
Re: Heavy Machines powered by GM diesels or Detroits

Quote:
Originally Posted by MalibuSSwagon View Post
Saw this on my local craigslist. Talk about a monster.

http://nh.craigslist.org/hvo/4743969133.html
That is a real snowblower, You could clean some driveways with that bad boy. Imagine the fuel bill
Cape Codder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2014, 11:44 AM   #41
MalibuSSwagon
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Weare,NH
Posts: 1,592
Re: Heavy Machines powered by GM diesels or Detroits

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cape Codder View Post
That is a real snowblower, You could clean some driveways with that bad boy. Imagine the fuel bill
I'm sure it's some insane amount that only a government agency could afford. It's got a 12V71 just to power the auger!



Screenshot the ad so it's up here forever.
MalibuSSwagon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2014, 01:00 PM   #42
Oregoon
Roadside Rebuilder
 
Oregoon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Southeast Portland, OR
Posts: 421
Re: Heavy Machines powered by GM diesels or Detroits

Don't know if you guys have ever seen this video, but it's a good one.

Sounds almost exactly the same as the 6V92 in the International I used to drive, though I had two sticks and a 48' trailer behind me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVjXwS8HzFw
Oregoon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2014, 03:33 PM   #43
C10 - C90 Bill
Registered User
 
C10 - C90 Bill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Moneta, VA USA
Posts: 3,082
Re: Heavy Machines powered by GM diesels or Detroits

There are actually 2 or 3 videos of that truck out there.

Good to see it again.

It sure does sound sweet.

What year and model was your IH?

Also was it a 5 X 2, 5 X 3, or a 5 X 4?
__________________
'60-'72 Chev/GMC Fan
GMC 9500 Fan
Detroit Diesel Fan
C10 - C90 Bill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2014, 07:01 PM   #44
Oregoon
Roadside Rebuilder
 
Oregoon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Southeast Portland, OR
Posts: 421
Re: Heavy Machines powered by GM diesels or Detroits

I don't know what year it was--company rig--but I'd guess early 'eighties by the cab, though it had a later model fiberglass tilt-nose on it. It had a 6V92 and a five and four. I think the transmission came from an older truck, as did the pad suspension.

It had a stretch frame and three axles, though the steer was set-back, and it rode like a punch to the kidney. No a/c, hotter than all get out in summer, and a rattle-trap.

I learned a lot about trucking in that old thing, and when I finally moved up into a then-new Freightliner FLD, I thought I'd died and gone to heaven.

Nowadays, I miss the old girl, though I miss a lot about trucking in the 'nineties. Nowadays, there's not much fun in it.
Oregoon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2014, 01:53 AM   #45
JustTom
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Northern Michigan
Posts: 19
Re: Heavy Machines powered by GM diesels or Detroits

I started working for a small City DPW in 1975.

They had an ancient 20 year old WABCO 555 motor grader, powered by a 6-71 that was only run by 1 operator in 10 years.
No one else was "allowed"to run it.
I conned the old guy, Jack, into showing me the ropes, letting me run it some, kinda like unauthorized OTJ training.

That was near the time that the last dirt roads in town were paved, so the grader sat a lot.
Management kept it around for odd jobs and plowing snow.

I was very junior in seniorority, but I weaseled into a spot where I worked ALL the overtime using it to plow snow!
Overtime was assigned by seniority, but I was the only one who could/would run it. Old Jack preferred his OT in a nice comfy dump truck.

Yeah, it was difficult to operate if you didn't like operatin', but the main complaint was the noise.
It had a 5 or 6 inch straight pipe, no muffler.
I loved it.

I woke generations of people ( we plowed at night if possible) with it.

It had, I think, 12 forward gears so you could always find a gear to run it wide open.
And it ran best wide open.

Looked just like this, except it was municipal orange.



Tom
JustTom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2014, 07:35 PM   #46
Oldflyboy
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Baker,Fl 32531
Posts: 10
Re: Heavy Machines powered by GM diesels or Detroits

I am new to the forum. I made a couple of posts here because I am hunting a V-12 GMC 702. I want to make a heavy ratrod.
Anyway I made a living working on some heavy engines for 41 years. Our heaviest one weighed 320,000# without the turbocharger. Just a wild guess it weighed 10,000#. It produced 4100 bhp @ 330 RPM. A V-10 2 stroke Dresser-Rand pipeline compressor. The V-10 holds 2200gallons of oil. I posted pictures of a 2000 bhp being overhauled on this thread:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...68#post6968868


I have followed this Big Bud tractor since it was being built. It has a Detroit 16V-71. Specs here:
http://www.williamsbigbud.com/about-us/
I thought someone built one with 2 Detroit 8V92's but can't find it.

Jerry
Attached Images
 
Oldflyboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2014, 09:14 PM   #47
C10 - C90 Bill
Registered User
 
C10 - C90 Bill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Moneta, VA USA
Posts: 3,082
Re: Heavy Machines powered by GM diesels or Detroits

Sure is a brute. To transport it from state to state, I'm going to say that they at least needed to take off the outside Dual Wheels, Tractor Cab and Dual Stacks.

Interesting piece of machinery.

Bill
__________________
'60-'72 Chev/GMC Fan
GMC 9500 Fan
Detroit Diesel Fan
C10 - C90 Bill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2014, 09:20 PM   #48
Oldflyboy
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Baker,Fl 32531
Posts: 10
Re: Heavy Machines powered by GM diesels or Detroits

Yes sir, their website says it weighs 95,000 dry and I believe it said 130,000 with ballast.
Oldflyboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2014, 09:31 PM   #49
JustTom
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Northern Michigan
Posts: 19
Re: Heavy Machines powered by GM diesels or Detroits

Quote:
Originally Posted by C10 - C90 Bill View Post
Sure is a brute. To transport it from state to state, I'm going to say that they at least needed to take off the outside Dual Wheels, Tractor Cab and Dual Stacks.

Interesting piece of machinery.

Bill
No kidding, what a project! And it started in California, went to Florida, then to Montana!
That thing's had a couple long semi rides.

Tom
JustTom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2014, 11:08 PM   #50
junkmandan3
Registered User
 
junkmandan3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Northfield,Ohio
Posts: 221
Re: Heavy Machines powered by GM diesels or Detroits

There's a video about Big Bud that I bought maybe 5 years agofor about $25.00. I loaned it to somebody and never got it back .

When it was purchased by the Williams brothers it was brought back to the factory, refurbished and repowered with a 16V92T. There's also U tube videos of it at a big show in Rantool, Ill.
junkmandan3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:49 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com