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polishing a turd
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: houston, tx
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Re: my '59 short bed build
The bed isn’t bolted on yet; it must have been bumped. The frame is straight.
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Re: my '59 short bed build
Looking good. I have been wanting to do that same gas tank and your picture has me convinced. Tank ordered. Keep up the good work.
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Re: my '59 short bed build
I had some 4 x 4 square tubing left over from my carport build, so I cut 2 mock up 4 inch lift blocks to put under the rear springs to see where that with the truck stance. I do not plan on driving with these in it, it is just for mock up purposes to figure out how much is a lift needs to be built into the new springs.
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Re: my '59 short bed build
4” is clearly too much. Lol.
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Re: my '59 short bed build
Looks good, has a nice rack to it. lol
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Re: my '59 short bed build
i ordered some 2.5" lift rear springs today, hopefully that sets it just right. should have them by the end of next week. i'm sure i'll install them the day they arrive and post pics.
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Re: my '59 short bed build
i managed to get all front suspension bushings switched out for poly bushings. these little guys actually pressed into the stock front shackle hanger holes in the frame:
https://www.suspension.com/9.9176 then i was able to use the cj5 front shackles, and 1/2" bolts with grease fittings on them, so now all the pivot points on the suspension are poly-bushed, and greaseable!
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Re: my '59 short bed build
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I would like to see the set up when you have time for pictures. |
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Re: my '59 short bed build
Some pics of the front shackle setup, now with all poly bushings!
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Re: my '59 short bed build
fixed the sideways pics...
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Re: my '59 short bed build
just got a delivery notification for my rear springs! hopefully i can get those on tonight and finalize the stance, and move on to mounting the steering box, and getting a single wheel/tire ordered for test fit. thinking about going with a 17"x9" wheel and 35x12.50r17 mud tires.
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Re: my '59 short bed build
Got the rear springs in. Thinking the stance is looking pretty good. Ordered one wheel and tire in the size I was thinking of running to test fit. Going with a 35x12.50r17 and 17x9 wheels with a 4.75” backspace.
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Re: my '59 short bed build
For reference the wheels/tires in the pic are 31x10.50r15’s with a whole lot more offset than I plan to run.
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Re: my '59 short bed build
Front to back looks good to me in the pic. Yep, you're going to need more tire to fill those wheel wells though! 2" more on either side of the existing tires looks like it will work out.
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Re: my '59 short bed build
Looks nice. 35" gonna just clear the car port.
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Re: my '59 short bed build
today i got the steering box mounted using the mounting parts from the c10 2wd box kit, with a box for a mid-seventies 4x4 chevy truck, which turns out to be the same box as the 2wd, except for the output shaft.
i mounted the box ~3" forward of where the instructions said to put it, to make it line up with the steering shaft that came attached to the axle. now i just need a 3/4" dd to 1" dd u-joint to have the steering shaft hooked up. I already have a dropped pitman arm on order, and i need to order all new tie rod ends to wrap up the steering. oh and ps hoses i guess too. then steering will be done.
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Re: my '59 short bed build
Steering box mounted!
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Re: my '59 short bed build
got the u-joint i needed...steering is sorted out from the column to the box!
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Re: my '59 short bed build
so i got my test wheel and tire setup, and the tire hits the pitman arm on right turns before lock...so i ordered a different wheel with 1.25" less backspace...
the new wheel came today, hoping i have time tomorrow to get the tire swapped over, then i can see if this one clears the steering...this one is a procomp gloss black steel 17x9 with 3.5" backspace to replace the procomp matte black alloy 17x9 with 4.75" backspace
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Re: my '59 short bed build
just a quick question, and maybe it's just the angle of the pic, back in post 38 it shows the front spring shackles with a spacer/stabilizer bolt in the middle of the shackle. it kinda looks like the bolt is really going to limit the amount of travel the shackle has and may be bottoming on the frame before the spring even comes close to any bump stops. is there enough travel for the suspension setup? if not those nice new bushings are gonna be split out pretty quickly.
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Re: my '59 short bed build
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Re: my '59 short bed build
you could make the shackle into an H with a piece of stout flat bar welded in on it's flat just above the spring. then remove the center bolt and plug the holes with weld for added strength. if you do this off the truck make sure to leave some extra width and then use shims on each side of the spring and frame mount bushings in order to be able to remove the shackle easily. otherwise it could be pretty tight getting installed/removed
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Re: my '59 short bed build
Hello 1-ton of fun. I have been following your build and like the direction its going. The reason I'm posting here is about your mounting of your steering box. I used the same kit and box and have no problems with it. Now when I was looking at the mounting to frame I found several comments about frame flexing and cracks showing up. I used the information and instructions I found by CCP, Brothers etc. I located my box closer to the cross member as instructed and maybe the little 1/2 spacers in the kit might have been enough but I did not like them. I put backup material inside frame with solid 1/2" x 1" solid bar outside frame between box. My truck is only 2 wheel drive. With your box mounted 3" forward its closer to the end of the frame with those big tires I'm sure there will be more flexing going on. Just a thought. Keep up the good work.
Earl
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Re: my '59 short bed build
looking good
I'm thinking of going 4x4 also, what type of steering box are you using for the cross steering setup. thanks |
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Re: my '59 short bed build
Hey 1 ton hope things are well with you.
wondering if you have any new pics like from the front end, steering, and how the rear suspension is going? supper curious as i'm pulling apart the 85 k10 for my build thanks |
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