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Old 11-08-2006, 05:23 PM   #26
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Damn, that is an awesome ride right there. I would definantly take it and put it to good use. LOL
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Old 11-08-2006, 06:33 PM   #27
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This is just my opinion but ... here goes . I like it but I wouldnt build one like it unless I wanted to lose a lot of money . Once they are built like that , they dont seem to hold their value . If you build a stock appearing truck ( see N2TRUX Cheyenne ) it will always have value since the look never goes out of style . That red truck will only appeal to certain people while Kens has an appeal that I do not think will ever go away . My feeling is that when a truck is body dropped it just lost value . I see it on the internet when stock and stock appearing trucks bring good money and a slammed to the rockers truck struggles to sell for 1/4 of the investment it took to build . Again , this is just my opinion and what do I know . Frank
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Old 11-08-2006, 07:23 PM   #28
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This is just my opinion but ... here goes . I like it but I wouldnt build one like it unless I wanted to lose a lot of money . Once they are built like that , they dont seem to hold their value . If you build a stock appearing truck ( see N2TRUX Cheyenne ) it will always have value since the look never goes out of style . That red truck will only appeal to certain people while Kens has an appeal that I do not think will ever go away . My feeling is that when a truck is body dropped it just lost value . I see it on the internet when stock and stock appearing trucks bring good money and a slammed to the rockers truck struggles to sell for 1/4 of the investment it took to build . Again , this is just my opinion and what do I know . Frank
I know what you mean, BUT...........its not always about the money. Sometimes its about building it the way you want it.
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Old 11-08-2006, 07:42 PM   #29
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customizing in general only brings in cash if you have a famous name like foose or jesse james , the john doe down the street whont get the money invested back on his car truck or bike unlerss he's lucky and comes across a starry eyed person with big cash in his pocket.

if i was to customize a car it would be for my own and i expect to loose money on it unless i drive the wheels of the car for several years
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Old 11-08-2006, 08:51 PM   #30
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i agree about the loss in envestment. A while back i was gonna trade my 84 for a 72 stepside almost completed project truck. guy did the value of mine on KBB and NADA and said he wanted cash too. I have a motor that is worht more then the KBB value of my truck. ALso i havea bunch of add on's. but aside from the motor i could go back to stock almost any time by addiong rallies and interor things. That is my goal, clean and simple that can go back to stock. ALso my freind works as a junior dealer tech in LI. he tells me that they strip all bolt ons and custem stuff off trade ins cause it takes away from there value. lift kits,intakes, superchargers all decrese value from a dealer stand point. i always thought the oppiset but ahh well. i like how clan this truck looks and the interior is nice but i kind like holding the stock interor look alittle.
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Old 11-08-2006, 09:07 PM   #31
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This is just my opinion but ... here goes . I like it but I wouldnt build one like it unless I wanted to lose a lot of money . Once they are built like that , they dont seem to hold their value . If you build a stock appearing truck ( see N2TRUX Cheyenne ) it will always have value since the look never goes out of style . That red truck will only appeal to certain people while Kens has an appeal that I do not think will ever go away . My feeling is that when a truck is body dropped it just lost value . I see it on the internet when stock and stock appearing trucks bring good money and a slammed to the rockers truck struggles to sell for 1/4 of the investment it took to build . Again , this is just my opinion and what do I know . Frank
I'm with you, Frank. My truck is lowered, but otherwise stock. I have all of the parts in the attic to put it back to stock height, and I can do it in a day. If I ever do sell it, and I don't plan to, I probably will raise it back up to stock. It increases the chances that you'll sell it.

I figure if I stick to a classic look, it will never go out of style. With billet and wild paint jobs, the value is lowered, and you have to change it every two years to keep looking "cool."

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Old 11-09-2006, 12:10 AM   #32
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Frank thanks for the compliments. You and bagged74 both have valid points. There are some people that make modifications to a truck because they want it the way I want it and don't care about value. They are concerned with the impact that the truck will have when finished. In most cases they will invest 2,3,or 4x what the truck will sell for.


I have found it best to appreciate both styles of truck......
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Old 11-09-2006, 12:28 AM   #33
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Thats true .If your building to sale it then ya keep mainly stock to get your money back..if your building it to please yourself then dont expect if or when you sale it to get more then you put into it ..ask the rod builders they will tell you..haha.
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Old 11-09-2006, 12:31 AM   #34
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That's very true. BTW- Ya wanna sell your truck...
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Thats true .If your building to sale it then ya keep mainly stock to get your money back..if your building it to please yourself then dont expect if or when you sale it to get more then you put into it ..ask the rod builders they will tell you..haha.
im with you i love to build trucks ive donw built my first truck and started on the 2nd only way i will sell it is if i need the cash or somone just has to have it other wise its goin no were i might change it up every year but hey its a toy
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Old 11-09-2006, 12:54 AM   #36
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Im pretty sure this is the truck that was at showfest last year half put together. If it is the bodydrop itsself and the frame work isnt too clean but at least they did a good job covering it all up. Overall it came out pretty slick, not my thing, but non the less.
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Old 11-09-2006, 01:33 AM   #37
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That's very true. BTW- Ya wanna sell your truck...
Its still in the garage .Its one of those things i think everyone goes through
built and built then stoped all at once .getting the itch again and also have more money to spend haha..thats all it takes right ,time and money and the knowing that your not gona make your money back. n2trux i love your stuff .Ive had this truck since 1984 let the ex have it in the devorce and she traded it in .i bought it back from the dealer..not gona sale it anymore gona spend spend spend ..you would know how bought those one piece windows..
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i am with you guys. i like simp,le mods and clean stockish look. but my main reason for doing things is to make it how i want. I also understand that iching your talking about. right now i can say i have mine the way i want but that can change any time. i am really iching to do a frame off and it is not worth it to me to do it on my truck as it has not started. even if my next project is not a chevy i am gonna have alot of fun doing a frame off style resto. Build it how you want hold on to it have fun and maybe when you go out to sell it in a few years you can break even or better
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man this truck is tits!!! i looked at it for a while and its real clean. hills gets better everytime he does one of these. the one piece glass looks great. i saw him sat morning, looked like he was gonna get shot by street trucks.
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man this truck is tits!!! i looked at it for a while and its real clean. hills gets better everytime he does one of these. the one piece glass looks great. i saw him sat morning, looked like he was gonna get shot by street trucks.
Dude, where have you been. I saw you were back at SEMA this year. It looks like your truck, this one that Jason built and two more (one blue one red) were the only 73-87's there.
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been real busy man...built a new house, shop is busier than ever and built a new motor for the truck. yeah we was at sema this year again. you are right, there wasn't that many box styles this year. been working on another box for next year. when time is right ill let the cat out of the bag on it.
i got shot or sport truck that saturday when i seen hills truck out there. his truck is way cool. we all need to plan a outing together some time. you gotta hear my truck man!!!

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been real busy man...built a new house, shop is busier than ever and built a new motor for the truck....... we all need to plan a outing together some time. you gotta hear my truck man!!!
Congrats on the house and the shop doing well. I wish I had time to make SEMA but it's at the wrong time of year for me to leave my business.

I wish Goodguys would open their shows to 73-87's We could all get together at one of their shows next year. I plan to have something for the Ft. Worth Goodguys next year if at all possible....
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I realllllllly want to hear this story. To be the fly on the wall when you announce this bit of info to the Mrs. . . ......
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I wish Goodguys would open their shows to 73-87's We could all get together at one of their shows next year. I plan to have something for the Ft. Worth Goodguys next year if at all possible....
I wish Goodguys would change the years also, at least to 77'
I wonder why the Plesenton Goodguys show is open to all years though?
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I realllllllly want to hear this story. To be the fly on the wall when you announce this bit of info to the Mrs. . . ......
She already knows. All I have to do is sell a 96 Chevy, an 04 Dodge, an 03 Denali XL and if she has her way an 84 Camaro. After I buy her a new ride then I can buy whatever I want.
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Because they have enough room at Pleasonton and a couple of others. Most of the other events fill up with the current cut off date.
Hmmm, wonder how I know that...
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Those wheels look like Bonspeed Huntingtons. SWEET!
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i think it looks killer but im lookin to build a vehicle for sema next year i got my choice of tryin to finsh my 82 for sema or a rare car that my dad has been hidin for over 20 years it just all depends on how school goes
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