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D13 · 03-04-2021, 11:38 AM

I second Keith's comments about engines... we once built armored cars for export to the middle east. Take an 90's RWD Cadillac, put 1/2 ton truck springs and brakes under it, then install a leaded fuel 307 Olds built to 442 specs for an engine, with a TH400 instead of a 2004R, and 3.73 gears. Looked and ran like an old gasser. Then we sent that to Hess and Eisenhart for armoring.

But they built less than 200 leaded fuel 442 307's that year, and they built all of them in a 2 day span judging by the build numbers on our engines. Which mean some of ours set for 6 months before being installed.

About your picture Keith.... pretty good guesser, aren't I?

D13 · 08-02-2021, 12:58 PM

Went to the muscle car races at US131 to check out the action and watch Keith run his True Street car. Keith and his son treated us well, including giving my overstimulated wife and I a ride back to our parking spot on a miserably hot and muggy day. A pair of true gentlemen and a pleasure to visit with. Love that his big block Chevelle was spec'd out by his dad for his mom... my dad ordered the 81 in Carmine Red specifically because my mom was tired of all the blue cars and trucks.

Keith Seymore · 01-26-2022, 11:15 AM

My wife is going through and digitizing our old photo albums; found a couple photos of my son and I washing our respective red trucks.

This has to be around 1990 or '91.

K

**GOPAPA** · 01-26-2022, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

My wife is going through and digitizing our old photo albums; found a couple photos of my son and I washing our respective red trucks.

This has to be around 1990 or '91.

K

This is photo to keep for sure ,, I can see your son hanging this photo on his garage /shop wall ..

LT7A · 01-27-2022, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

My wife is going through and digitizing our old photo albums; found a couple photos of my son and I washing our respective red trucks.

This has to be around 1990 or '91.

K

Funny how those routine events are anything but routine when you look back on them.

**Palf70Step** · 01-27-2022, 12:54 PM

**57NAPCO** · 01-28-2022, 08:45 AM

Once again a big Thank You Keith

Keith Seymore · 02-07-2022, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

My wife is going through and digitizing our old photo albums

K

Found another picture of the blue truck -

This would be around 1986 or 1987.

K

D13 · 02-08-2022, 09:51 AM

Always sweet to see those old memories. I have the hood chrome of my 67 Biscayne, still dented from my first accident, in the barn. Some other bits and pieces but few photos. Of course I think the remains of Dad's truck in my 'graveyard' probably count.

rodstored-72 · 06-13-2022, 10:58 AM

happy "anniversary" Keith! glad to see you are still onboard here.

kipps · 06-29-2022, 06:46 PM

Keith, since you've been involved in engineering work at GM over this time period, I figured you might know the answer to a question I've had.

Is there any recorded account of the development of the gen3 small block? Did you see much of that yourself first-hand?

It would be interesting to hear more details about it. There's certain aspects to that engine that seem pointless except from a hotrodding perspective. Did the potential for hotrodding and aftermarket parts supply factor in at all in the design of the engine?

Engineering stuff fascinates me, particularly the interplay between good engineering, low cost, and expectations. Anytime there was a major shift in a product line, there are obviously a bunch of fun engineering decisions to study, mock, and praise accordingly. The John Deere changeover from the 2-cylinder tractors to the new generation of tractors in 1960 is a really interesting situation, and I expect the gen3 LS engines had a similar story.

5Win · 01-19-2023, 04:36 PM

Hi Keith,

I have an assembly plant question. I sent you a Private Message.

Thank you

Keith Seymore · 03-24-2023, 04:30 PM

This just in:

https://www.nmcadigital.com/blog/kei...g-classes/2148

Wasn't quite sure where to put it so I figured this was as good a spot as any.

K

S10Fan · 03-24-2023, 04:58 PM

Excellent!!!

**Getter-Done** · 03-24-2023, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

This just in:

https://www.nmcadigital.com/blog/kei...g-classes/2148

Wasn't quite sure where to put it so I figured this was as good a spot as any.

K

You are a Valuble resource to this forum.

**Rickysnickers** · 03-29-2023, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

This just in:

https://www.nmcadigital.com/blog/kei...g-classes/2148

Wasn't quite sure where to put it so I figured this was as good a spot as any.

K

Very cool!!!

Hankster · 09-15-2023, 03:27 PM

Keith glad to see you are still around enjoying vehicles. I have talked about this thread a few times with guys here at work that grew up near GM in Michigan. Keep on keepin on

Keith Seymore · 09-28-2023, 09:35 AM

Thanks, everyone -

K

Keith Seymore · 09-28-2023, 09:40 AM

Post #8888!

K

**Palf70Step** · 03-24-2023, 06:11 PM

Kewl!

**1957 Chief** · 03-24-2023, 08:13 PM

Man thats epic Ken! Proud of you brother!

Bubba

rodstored-72 · 03-27-2023, 03:42 PM

very cool!!! I agree with the above statement as well!! you are a valueable resource & your input is always appreciated & respected....

SKT · 03-27-2023, 04:33 PM

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That’s awesome Keith - thanks for sharing!

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**Corts60** · 03-27-2023, 06:16 PM

Congrats on your article Keith! Just read the whole thing. Very cool! I can barely keep the same truck for more than 4 years let alone 40! We’ll done!

**57NAPCO** · 03-28-2023, 07:20 AM

Thank you Keith, you’re a valuable member of this forum and we are fortunate to have you hang your hat here.

03-04-2021, 11:38 AM	#1
D13 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Memphis MI Posts: 1,851	Re: Intro from an old Assembly Plant guy I second Keith's comments about engines... we once built armored cars for export to the middle east. Take an 90's RWD Cadillac, put 1/2 ton truck springs and brakes under it, then install a leaded fuel 307 Olds built to 442 specs for an engine, with a TH400 instead of a 2004R, and 3.73 gears. Looked and ran like an old gasser. Then we sent that to Hess and Eisenhart for armoring. But they built less than 200 leaded fuel 442 307's that year, and they built all of them in a 2 day span judging by the build numbers on our engines. Which mean some of ours set for 6 months before being installed. About your picture Keith.... pretty good guesser, aren't I? __________________ 1987 2 ton 1982 250/TH350 beater in progress Dad's 1981 3/4 L6 3 on tree posi and no options, awaiting restoration or scrapping Plus a mess o' tractors

08-02-2021, 12:58 PM	#2
D13 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Memphis MI Posts: 1,851	Re: Intro from an old Assembly Plant guy Went to the muscle car races at US131 to check out the action and watch Keith run his True Street car. Keith and his son treated us well, including giving my overstimulated wife and I a ride back to our parking spot on a miserably hot and muggy day. A pair of true gentlemen and a pleasure to visit with. Love that his big block Chevelle was spec'd out by his dad for his mom... my dad ordered the 81 in Carmine Red specifically because my mom was tired of all the blue cars and trucks. __________________ 1987 2 ton 1982 250/TH350 beater in progress Dad's 1981 3/4 L6 3 on tree posi and no options, awaiting restoration or scrapping Plus a mess o' tractors

01-26-2022, 11:15 AM	#3
Keith Seymore Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Motor City Posts: 9,167	Re: Intro from an old Assembly Plant guy My wife is going through and digitizing our old photo albums; found a couple photos of my son and I washing our respective red trucks. This has to be around 1990 or '91. K Attached Images __________________ Chevrolet Flint Assembly 1979-1986 GM Full Size Truck Engineering 1986 - 2019 Intro from an Old Assembly Guy: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=342926 My Pontiac story: http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=560524 Chevelle intro: http://www.superchevy.com/features/s...hevy-chevelle/

01-27-2022, 12:54 PM	#6
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 46,725	Re: Intro from an old Assembly Plant guy __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God!

01-28-2022, 08:45 AM	#7
57NAPCO F’B’D guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Texas/Maine Posts: 2,216	Re: Intro from an old Assembly Plant guy Once again a big Thank You Keith

02-08-2022, 09:51 AM	#9
D13 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Memphis MI Posts: 1,851	Re: Intro from an old Assembly Plant guy Always sweet to see those old memories. I have the hood chrome of my 67 Biscayne, still dented from my first accident, in the barn. Some other bits and pieces but few photos. Of course I think the remains of Dad's truck in my 'graveyard' probably count. __________________ 1987 2 ton 1982 250/TH350 beater in progress Dad's 1981 3/4 L6 3 on tree posi and no options, awaiting restoration or scrapping Plus a mess o' tractors

06-13-2022, 10:58 AM	#10
rodstored-72 chevy truck fan Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Gilbert, arizona 85298 Posts: 1,975	Re: Intro from an old Assembly Plant guy happy "anniversary" Keith! glad to see you are still onboard here.

06-29-2022, 06:46 PM	#11
kipps Registered User Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: North-central Virginia Posts: 1,099	Re: Intro from an old Assembly Plant guy Keith, since you've been involved in engineering work at GM over this time period, I figured you might know the answer to a question I've had. Is there any recorded account of the development of the gen3 small block? Did you see much of that yourself first-hand? It would be interesting to hear more details about it. There's certain aspects to that engine that seem pointless except from a hotrodding perspective. Did the potential for hotrodding and aftermarket parts supply factor in at all in the design of the engine? Engineering stuff fascinates me, particularly the interplay between good engineering, low cost, and expectations. Anytime there was a major shift in a product line, there are obviously a bunch of fun engineering decisions to study, mock, and praise accordingly. The John Deere changeover from the 2-cylinder tractors to the new generation of tractors in 1960 is a really interesting situation, and I expect the gen3 LS engines had a similar story. __________________ 1987 C6P V20 truck, 2010 LMG 5.3, AFM delete, 2010 Camaro exhaust manifolds, 1997 nv4500, 1991 np241c, hydroboost, 2005 14bff axle & driveshaft, drop-n-lock gooseneck, 4.10 gears, stock suspension, rims, and tires. Still a work in progress. Any questions or suggestions are welcome!

01-19-2023, 04:36 PM	#12
5Win Registered User Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: CA Posts: 46	Re: Intro from an old Assembly Plant guy Hi Keith, I have an assembly plant question. I sent you a Private Message. Thank you

03-24-2023, 04:30 PM	#13
Keith Seymore Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Motor City Posts: 9,167	Re: Intro from an old Assembly Plant guy This just in: https://www.nmcadigital.com/blog/kei...g-classes/2148 Wasn't quite sure where to put it so I figured this was as good a spot as any. K Attached Images __________________ Chevrolet Flint Assembly 1979-1986 GM Full Size Truck Engineering 1986 - 2019 Intro from an Old Assembly Guy: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=342926 My Pontiac story: http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=560524 Chevelle intro: http://www.superchevy.com/features/s...hevy-chevelle/

03-24-2023, 04:58 PM	#14
S10Fan Old Heap Driver Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Newport News, Va Posts: 2,639	Re: Intro from an old Assembly Plant guy Excellent!!! __________________ _____________________________ Bryan '99 Silverado 1500, 4.3, 5-speed, reg cab, short bed '50 Chevy 2DR Hard Top, 350/350, M2 Front End, 3:08 gear, cruiser. '30 Model A Pickup, suicide front end, 350, 350, traditional style hot rod.

09-15-2023, 03:27 PM	#17
Hankster Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Nacogdoches, Texas Posts: 895	Re: Intro from an old Assembly Plant guy Keith glad to see you are still around enjoying vehicles. I have talked about this thread a few times with guys here at work that grew up near GM in Michigan. Keep on keepin on __________________ Current Build 89 s10 ecsb 2wd 4.3/700r4 50k OG Miles Instagram- shaggin_s10 '86 Chevrolet C10 Custom Deluxe - Gen V 454 - 4l80e - welded 12 bolt (Build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=611611 ) SOLD

09-28-2023, 09:35 AM	#18
Keith Seymore Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Motor City Posts: 9,167	Re: Intro from an old Assembly Plant guy Thanks, everyone - K __________________ Chevrolet Flint Assembly 1979-1986 GM Full Size Truck Engineering 1986 - 2019 Intro from an Old Assembly Guy: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=342926 My Pontiac story: http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=560524 Chevelle intro: http://www.superchevy.com/features/s...hevy-chevelle/

09-28-2023, 09:40 AM	#19
Keith Seymore Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Motor City Posts: 9,167	Re: Intro from an old Assembly Plant guy Post #8888! K Attached Images __________________ Chevrolet Flint Assembly 1979-1986 GM Full Size Truck Engineering 1986 - 2019 Intro from an Old Assembly Guy: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=342926 My Pontiac story: http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...d.php?t=560524 Chevelle intro: http://www.superchevy.com/features/s...hevy-chevelle/

03-24-2023, 06:11 PM	#20
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 46,725	Re: Intro from an old Assembly Plant guy Kewl! __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God!



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03-24-2023, 08:13 PM	#21
1957 Chief Proud Vet that loves the USA Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Beebe, AR Posts: 458	Re: Intro from an old Assembly Plant guy Man thats epic Ken! Proud of you brother! Bubba

03-27-2023, 03:42 PM	#22
rodstored-72 chevy truck fan Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Gilbert, arizona 85298 Posts: 1,975	Re: Intro from an old Assembly Plant guy very cool!!! I agree with the above statement as well!! you are a valueable resource & your input is always appreciated & respected....

03-27-2023, 04:33 PM	#23
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03-27-2023, 06:16 PM	#24
Corts60 Just here to tinker Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Holland, MI Posts: 3,682	Re: Intro from an old Assembly Plant guy Congrats on your article Keith! Just read the whole thing. Very cool! I can barely keep the same truck for more than 4 years let alone 40! We’ll done! __________________ 78 C10 SWB Diesel #1 (wrecked)http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...1978+silverado 78 C10 SWB Diesel #2 (sold)http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=650751 60 GMC Suburban (sold)http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=445526 60 GMC 1000 (sold)http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=298235 67 GMC 1500 (sold) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=803695 86 Suburban(summer unit) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=810697 88 Suburban 4x4(winter unit)https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...25#post8900725

03-28-2023, 07:20 AM	#25
57NAPCO F’B’D guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Texas/Maine Posts: 2,216	Re: Intro from an old Assembly Plant guy Thank you Keith, you’re a valuable member of this forum and we are fortunate to have you hang your hat here.

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