Interest for High rise(pre-runner style?) Fenders Fiberglass

[Mordachai]

hey everyone.
a little update, after a ton of things not related to this fender at all I've gotten some time here and there.

Alot of block sanding, and then even more block sanding...

I ended up with something pretty smooth:




the fender is patchy and multi colored, but smooth as heck.

Then it was waxing the fender. Again and again and again.
finally got it waxed, got the shims on it, and the PVA release:



and once that dried, I was able to shoot some gelcoat.






anyways, just a little update, I guess better than nothing right?

I'm a bit farther on that fender now, should have the driver side mold(s) done in a week or so and am already started on the passenger fender.









I do need help from the best truck forum anywhere.
Please I really need the front edge of a chevy 69-72 fender.
What I need looks like this: circled in red:


That pic is just a mirror image of my driver's fender, I need that front edge for the passenger fender( right now I have the 67-68 chevy style pass fender)

Want to be the first to get a set of these fenders?
Well I need you to help me help you, please I'm willing to pay for the piece, please let me know if you can help out. I've tried the parts boards, but I don't need a full fender, and have had a hard time finding just that piece.
I think it's kind of a waste of a good fender when all I need is that little bit.

I'm going to go ahead and mold the passenger fender as it sits now, but I won't be able to offer matching 69-72 style fenders until I can make that front edge. Meaning I need a NOS piece to work from.

oh yeah- sidenote- I left the upholstery shop to persue my own jobs/work/interests. That means I'm only doing nice full interiors when they come, no repair jobs, which leaves me alot of time to work on these fenders and get back to work on my 71!



Please hit me up if you can help me source that fender edge.



more pics of progress as they happen.

yodi- interesting thought, I've been contacted by someone else to make a pair of widened 56-57 fenders. This from a guy who had seen them widened in metal, and wanted them in glass. if all goes well with these, and there is interest, anything is possible!

[jimbug]

Good to know you have gone to the darkside! Wish I had a fender for ya! Good luck on that one....

[CDA 455]

Originally Posted by Mordachai

I'm a bit farther on that fender now, should have the driver side mold(s) done in a week or so and am already started on the passenger fender.

I do need help from the best truck forum anywhere.
Please I really need the front edge of a chevy 69-72 fender.
What I need looks like this: circled in red:


That pic is just a mirror image of my driver's fender, I need that front edge for the passenger fender( right now I have the 67-68 chevy style pass fender)

Want to be the first to get a set of these fenders?
Well I need you to help me help you, please I'm willing to pay for the piece, please let me know if you can help out. I've tried the parts boards, but I don't need a full fender, and have had a hard time finding just that piece.
I think it's kind of a waste of a good fender when all I need is that little bit.

I'm going to go ahead and mold the passenger fender as it sits now, but I won't be able to offer matching 69-72 style fenders until I can make that front edge. Meaning I need a NOS piece to work from.

oh yeah- sidenote- I left the upholstery shop to persue my own jobs/work/interests. That means I'm only doing nice full interiors when they come, no repair jobs, which leaves me alot of time to work on these fenders and get back to work on my 71!



Please hit me up if you can help me source that fender edge.



more pics of progress as they happen.

Do you still need that front edge pass. side piece?????

If so, I'll ship one to you.

PM me with your address.


I want a set of those panels!!!

[Mordachai]

Then fill sand fill sand fill sand until the fingers, elbows and shoulders are sore!






and even got to shoot some primer on it. It's rough- but it all starts out that way...













lol, quoting myself:

Originally Posted by Mordachai

I do need help from the best truck forum anywhere.
Please I really need the front edge of a chevy 69-72 fender.
What I need looks like this: circled in red:


That pic is just a mirror image of my driver's fender, I need that front edge for the passenger fender( right now I have the 67-68 chevy/ 67-72 GMC style pass fender) Oh, please correct me if I have the years wrong for the different fenders. I think that 67 had no marker light, correct?

Want to be the first to get a set of these fenders?
Well I need you to help me help you, please I'm willing to pay for the piece, please let me know if you can help out. I've tried the parts boards, but I don't need a full fender, and have had a hard time finding just that piece.
I think it's kind of a waste of a good fender when all I need is that little bit.

I'm going to go ahead and mold the passenger fender as it sits now, but I won't be able to offer matching 69-72 style fenders until I can make that front edge. Meaning I need a NOS piece to work from.




Please hit me up if you can help me source that fender edge.



more pics of progress as they happen.

maybe someone here can help out? maybe you don't have the part(s) I need, but know someone who does. Maybe they aren't on the truck forum, or whatever the case may be, maybe you can help me ?. Quite a few people have said they have that part for me, yet for some reason, nobody has come through in getting the part to me.
I need a 69-72 chevy style passenger front section
and a 67-68 chevy /67-72 GMC style Drivers front section.

I've tried the parts board, but mostly what's available is good FULL fenders, where I only need that front edge, preferably from a fender that's rusted out in the arch and bottom. Kind of a shame to cut up a good useable fender, when I know there's a halfway trashed fender with what I need.

Also I've looked for patch panels- It seems that nobody make the front section by itself, maybe I have overlooked a supplier?

any ideas?







anyways, getting this stuff done one way or another...
|M|

[yodi]

it would look soo sick if i got some of them fenders with like 6" widening and maybe a little less of a raise in the hight, im trying to prerunner may 59' out and make it one of a kind with a camburg full floating rear end and patch on a 67' front end and lift it, cant wait, donations will be excepted

[Mordachai]

some more pics, before I go back out to prep the next section(s)

first back up layer(s) surfacing veil and some .75 mat


corners and tight spots filleted in, and 2 layers of .75


2 layers of 1.5 mat




gratuitous lay-up pics.





Then I put another 2-4 layers of 1.5 mat on it, focusing on the lip area and flanges/edges

[Mordachai]

then 24 oz combo mat




wood stingers cut to profile


and glassed in place





flange(s) and lock and key system in flange


^ not cleaned up yet



That's it for now,
|M|

[Mordachai]

yes, I greatly need that piece, well at least I do in order to have a matching set of fenders to offer...

pm sent





I got the driver's side coming along, soon enough I should have a chance to pull the first 'test' part. I'm already doing different tests of different lay-ups, trying to find the strongest, lightest way to make them.

I also totally rearranged my workspace- made it easier to work on and move around the stuff. I also got a little better rain protection - I'm basically working outside in a 'car port' type deal. Well half the car port, the other half got taken off during the last hurricanes, so saying that I have better rain protection means alot- no more rigging plastic 'tents' to keep the rain off my workspace. And cleaned up my garage alot, might not look like it, but it's much cleaner... haha

and I even used this project as an excuse to buy more tools! lol.

[Mordachai]

modified workspace.

yeah, it's funky, but works for now.

clamped the 1st mold section to the fender, and the fender to a horse
then cleaned up the sanded fender surface




clay and pva


gelcoat sprayed


1st lay-up of veil, then chop strand and roving in the corners, then 2 layers of .75 mat




I've currently got that section finished, prepping the front of the fender- The last part!@!!!@!!!!!! woot!@

I've also started on the passenger, measured and cut off the arch, I cut out, flipped and tacked the marker light at a higher location, and started on the build for the lip...

Also I'm doing different test lay-up of different combinations of mat, cloth and cores. I will do tensile, flex(or deflection), and crush tests with them until I find what I think will work the best. I need to get some different resins and epoxies to test as well.

So making good progress, I should be able to pull a test fender in the next few weeks, I have to leave the molds on the fender for at least a week, to minimize shrinkage and warping, but it won't be too much longer, and I'll be pulling some panels.

[Eturnit3]

Thats awesome man, I can see these becoming a popular alternative when adding larger tires.. I bet if you keep up with these ventures, you can make a good living for yourself. Wouldnt stop here if I were you!!

[Mordachai]

^ thanks, And I hope it works out to become more than I ever could dream of, and I'm not stopping anytime soon!



I'm stoked having the time to be able to actually make some real progress!

more mat


24oz combo cloth



glassed in some tubing for extra rigidity


and then trimmed it up

[Mordachai]

didn't take as many pics, was more focused on working than taking pics

Front section cleaned, waxed, clayed, and pva.
pick of pva ready for gelcoat to be sprayed:


some roving in the corners, and veil on the 'flat' spots.(no pic of this, same as other sections though)
Then some putty(resin, CS, and balloons) to fillet the corners and tricky tight curves



Then built up with mat





then even more

[Mordachai]

and then I got a chance to drill holes and bolt the sections, and did a final trimming of the flanges



^WOOT!^


So that's where that one sits as of now. It's post curing on the fender to minimize shrinkage and warping. I should be able to pull the molds off in another 7-10 days!!!!!
























Working on the pass, got the light cut out, flipped 1" higher, and welded back in, starting on creating the lip. shouldn't be much longer and it'll be coming together(although I'm not looking forward to all the hand block sanding ahead of me- but that's ok)
Man, my passenger fender was so banged up it's not right. Air hammer and a ball peen were banged and banged until I got the front of the fender to have some normal shape back. (why do people pile on the filler- when they could just hammer out the dents a little and use 1/2 or less filler? always amazes me) I had a hell of a time trying to hammer the sheetmetal around the light flat enough to get it back in place nicely. Actually there is a slight compound curve- it's not dead flat- so it took alot of hammer/dolly work to get it where they would even remotely fit. If I were to actually try to use it, I would have trashed it for another, but for making the model/plug it'll be fine.
My metalwork is much less ideal than I'd like, but a little filler in the low spots and it should be fine. Almost hard to see in the pic, I guess because the grinding kind of made the surface look more uniform, but the whole front of the fender had about and inch plus of filler!!!! yikes!

only pic I got right now...
lip cut off, rusty nasty missing cup cut off, light flipped(raised 1") and welded, alot of hammer and dolly work...

[Mordachai]

hey, lil update, since I've been busy leaving tire tracks:

LOL!!






Well, today the last section of the mold has been in place curing for 2 weeks.
I very well might pull it off tomorrow, I'm really anxious to make a fender! As I'm sure you are anxious to see a finished part!














In the last little while, I've been working on the passenger fender

got the lip area prepped for making the profile, built the cup up





and ran some plaster

[Mordachai]

no comments, alotta views, it must really look lousy...
is it really that bad?

[jimbug]

looks good.... lets see the first fender!

[dammitmitchell]

just amazed.. it's been a long while since ive checked this thread..
just so you now... u rock.. period.....
when you doing a 73-87???? hmmmmm....
might have to throw my allowance your way...

[71blksuper4x4]

looking good bud, shouldn't be long before you will have some done.
Hey, I also seen in one of your posts on another topic, that your truck came with some lap style belts as shoulder belts, they didn't happen to be the factory shoulder harness belts did they?

[Frizzle Fry]

Nice work man!

[Mordachai]

Thanks guys.
Been working the edge and blocking it smooth. which means sore .

you mean my shoulder belts? I don't know what they were other than broken... I put some newer belt in it, pretty sure not OEM, or maybe even not GM. They have that weird T shape for the buckle.... What's a stock one look like? Still got them I think. Now if you were talkin to someone else- nevermind.

[VA72C10]

TTT for views for you. Nice work!

[Mordachai]

well, got the fender smoothed out(finally), and the mold(s) underway. I took the extra time to paint and seal the surface, a master moldmaker told me that might have been an issue with the first molds and that crazing I got. hopefully the little extra work on painting and sealing this one will yield a better mold right off the plug/model.
also fixed the little problems with the first mold(s).

just a few pics of the passenger fender before I started the mold.
nice and smooth....








Man I am so glad the block sanding and sanding and sanding and sealing/waxing is done. My shoulders, elbows, wrists, fingers all need a break...

I got a coupla glass bumpers to repair, after they are fixed I'll pull a driver's side fender , but paid work first... then the 'fun' stuff.

[fun in dirt]

Dang - that looks good!

From the poll, at the top of this page, what dimensions did you go with (since 2 different ones had 11 votes)?

[Mordachai]

^ thanks.
This is 2" larger radius, so 4" wider and 2" taller - 42" from lower front to lower back, and 20.5" from that line to the top.

since I started on them, more people have voted in the poll. if all goes well with these in regards to quality and sales, I will make flared versions at some point down the road.

[Mordachai]

some progress

haven't been taking too many pictures,
ready for gelcoat:


then glassed up a bit



That section completed, stringers glassed to mold, but not fully glassed in yet:




I've got that second mold well underway, just have to finish that 2nd section(no pics yet) and make the last front section and that one will be finished.