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**richard2717** · 12-31-2021, 02:45 PM

Paul
I would think you would want to completely tape up all the openings before painting the exterior otherwise you will have a lot of over spray inside the cabin area. if you do that you should have no issues with doing the wiring now if the inside is already painted.

Richard

pwdcougar · 01-02-2022, 10:18 PM

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Paul
I would think you would want to completely tape up all the openings before painting the exterior otherwise you will have a lot of over spray inside the cabin area. if you do that you should have no issues with doing the wiring now if the inside is already painted.

Richard

Thanks Richard! I was bummed that I wouldn't have anything to work on over the winter.

**HO455** · 01-10-2022, 10:04 AM

Are you going with a completely stock wiring harness?
If not have you considered using part of an A/C harness along with the bigger A/C blower motor for more heater output? It's just something I've been considering for mine.
It might be a good winter project.

pwdcougar · 01-10-2022, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HO455

Are you going with a completely stock wiring harness?
If not have you considered using part of an A/C harness along with the bigger A/C blower motor for more heater output? It's just something I've been considering for mine.
It might be a good winter project.

A few months ago I repaired the original harness using the spare that came with my 68 parts truck to replace any bad sections. When this was my daily driver in the 80's trying to heat the entire truck was as useless as cooking thanksgiving dinner with a match. I used to hang a heavy blanket just behind the rear seat from roof to floor to keep the heat up front. This truck will be a summer driver though when finished so it wont see much need for a heater. Both of my 69 Cougars have rarely had need for the heater in the last 25 years. Thanks for the tip though!

pwdcougar · 01-14-2022, 09:32 PM

This weeks project: the cluster. Touched up the chrome with a silver paint pen, repainted the semi black, polished the lens (400-5000 grit then polish) and added a tach from a Camaro as outlined by Grincoloco in the truck forum. All I need is the needle paint and I can pack it up for when it's time to install it!

**LockDoc** · 01-15-2022, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by pwdcougar

This weeks project: the cluster. Touched up the chrome with a silver paint pen, repainted the semi black, polished the lens (400-5000 grit then polish) and added a tach from a Camaro as outlined by Grincoloco in the truck forum. All I need is the needle paint and I can pack it up for when it's time to install it!

Looks great! I have a couple I need to do. I have all of the stuff, I just need to get off my duff and do it....

LockDoc

**HO455** · 01-15-2022, 01:31 PM

That came out awesome! Good work!

Average Joe · 03-18-2022, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pwdcougar

This weeks project: the cluster. Touched up the chrome with a silver paint pen, repainted the semi black, polished the lens (400-5000 grit then polish) and added a tach from a Camaro as outlined by Grincoloco in the truck forum. All I need is the needle paint and I can pack it up for when it's time to install it!

It’s been a while since I looked at your build thread. You are doing great work! I love the tach upgrade. Congrats on building a shop!

**kev2809** · 01-17-2022, 10:12 PM

same route I plan on going with. I too have all the stuff but too nervous to tear into it.

gauges look great btw

pwdcougar · 01-17-2022, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kev2809

same route I plan on going with. I too have all the stuff but too nervous to tear into it.

gauges look great btw

Thanks!

It's not a really tough task to install the tach. Grincoloco has some good pics and tips on how to do it. What I had trouble with was cutting out the hole in the back of the gauges for the circuit board backing to stick through. It had to be enlarged a couple times to get the tach in position. Another problem was that the studs on the back of the gauge assembly stick out and interfere with the blue circuit board on the stock assembly. I wound up trimming the studs down even with top of the plastic covered attaching nuts and covered the ends with silicone. Drop me a line if you want any info.

**kev2809** · 01-17-2022, 11:07 PM

well I'm going a little further since I'm going ls. I'm doing the s10 speedo swap...the camaro tach...and swapping the ammeter guts to put in a volt meter. and, ditching the circuit board and making a wired harness. lol dreading the entire thing....

pwdcougar · 01-18-2022, 07:02 PM

That's a lot of work but all do-able. Take your time and it will work out. Grincoloco has a bit about doing the amp volt swap and it looks pretty straightforward. It might be something to do on my 70 since it may be years before the cluster is installed. Good luck and keep up the progress and updates in your build thread!

**HO455** · 01-19-2022, 10:22 AM

I did the voltmeter conversion with square body guts. It was pretty straightforward and the only real challenge was getting the needle on the shaft in the right place so the meter showed 12 volts with the needle on the center mark of the old ampmeter face.

**BigBird05** · 01-19-2022, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by HO455

I did the voltmeter conversion with square body guts. It was pretty straightforward and the only real challenge was getting the needle on the shaft in the right place so the meter showed 12 volts with the needle on the center mark of the old ampmeter face.

How did that work out? Did you come up with away to do it or was it just trail and error.

**HO455** · 01-19-2022, 03:00 PM

I used a variable power supply to get exactly 12.00 volts. Then it took 5 or 6 tries to get the needle in the correct orientation on the shaft. As I didn't see a good way to hold the shaft while pushing the needle on the shaft. I had to redo it as the shaft would move and the needle would not be where I wanted it. It took maybe 15 minutes to make it indicate satisfactory.

**kev2809** · 01-19-2022, 04:12 PM

that's great idea

pwdcougar · 02-06-2022, 01:00 AM

Tonight's project.

**LockDoc** · 02-06-2022, 10:17 PM

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I would like to try the voltmeter conversion on one of mine. I will have to read that again.

LockDoc

pwdcougar · 02-10-2022, 11:35 PM

Sandblasted some brackets tonight. Saturday I'll put a coat of epoxy primer on them. Can someone tell me what the L shaped piece is at the top center? My guess is that it supports the hood latch.

pwdcougar · 02-15-2022, 04:47 PM

Brackets all painted and stored away!

**LockDoc** · 02-15-2022, 10:47 PM

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Brackets all painted and stored away!

I bet you are glad to have that done. That smaller stuff takes a lot of time.

They Look good.

LockDoc

pwdcougar · 02-16-2022, 11:07 AM

Thanks Leon. I’m just chipping away at small stuff. They finally broke ground on my pole barn so by summer hopefully the exterior paint can get done. The barn will be 24’ by 40’ with heat and 12’ ceilings.

Paul

**LockDoc** · 02-16-2022, 12:21 PM

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Thanks Leon. I’m just chipping away at small stuff. They finally broke ground on my pole barn so by summer hopefully the exterior paint can get done. The barn will be 24’ by 40’ with heat and 12’ ceilings.

Paul

That is just about the ideal size. My shop is 30 x 40 and I can get 3 vehicles abreast with narrow shelves on both sides, and plenty of room to walk between them.

LockDoc

pwdcougar · 08-30-2022, 10:36 PM

Finally some room to work!

Paul

**LockDoc** · 08-30-2022, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by pwdcougar

Finally some room to work!

Paul

Looks good Paul. Now get to work.....

.. j/k

LockDoc

12-31-2021, 02:45 PM	#1
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01-10-2022, 10:04 AM	#3
HO455 Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 10,861	Re: NJ Suburban Are you going with a completely stock wiring harness? If not have you considered using part of an A/C harness along with the bigger A/C blower motor for more heater output? It's just something I've been considering for mine. It might be a good winter project. __________________ Thanks to Bob and Jeanie and everyone else at Superior Performance for all their great help. RIP Bob Parks. 1967 Burban (the WMB),1988 S10 Blazer (the Stink10 II),1969 GTO (the Goat), 1970 Javelin, 1952 F2 Ford OHC six 4X4, 29 Model A, 72 Firebird (the DBP Bird). 85 Alfa Romeo If it breaks I didn't want it in the first place The WMB repair thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=698377

01-14-2022, 09:32 PM	#5
pwdcougar Registered User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,302	Re: NJ Suburban This weeks project: the cluster. Touched up the chrome with a silver paint pen, repainted the semi black, polished the lens (400-5000 grit then polish) and added a tach from a Camaro as outlined by Grincoloco in the truck forum. All I need is the needle paint and I can pack it up for when it's time to install it! Attached Images __________________ "You know that little thing in your head that keeps you from saying things you shouldn't? Yeah well, I don't have one of those" 1969 Mercury Cougar Standard 4 speed 1969 Mercury Cougar XR7 convertible 1970 4WD Chevrolet Suburban 1997 4WD Chevrolet Silverado Extended Cab Short Bed (purchased new January 1997)

01-15-2022, 01:31 PM	#7
HO455 Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 10,861	Re: NJ Suburban That came out awesome! Good work! __________________ Thanks to Bob and Jeanie and everyone else at Superior Performance for all their great help. RIP Bob Parks. 1967 Burban (the WMB),1988 S10 Blazer (the Stink10 II),1969 GTO (the Goat), 1970 Javelin, 1952 F2 Ford OHC six 4X4, 29 Model A, 72 Firebird (the DBP Bird). 85 Alfa Romeo If it breaks I didn't want it in the first place The WMB repair thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=698377

01-17-2022, 10:12 PM	#9
kev2809 low n' slo Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: rosenberg, texas Posts: 5,134	Re: NJ Suburban same route I plan on going with. I too have all the stuff but too nervous to tear into it. gauges look great btw __________________ 67 1/2 ton Suburban - Project DRGNWGN. Build thread -_--_--_ _________ _--_-_ -/____\|__\|__\__ ,.,,,.,.,,.,\|_O _______ O_]

01-17-2022, 11:07 PM	#11
kev2809 low n' slo Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: rosenberg, texas Posts: 5,134	Re: NJ Suburban well I'm going a little further since I'm going ls. I'm doing the s10 speedo swap...the camaro tach...and swapping the ammeter guts to put in a volt meter. and, ditching the circuit board and making a wired harness. lol dreading the entire thing.... __________________ 67 1/2 ton Suburban - Project DRGNWGN. Build thread -_--_--_ _________ _--_-_ -/____\|__\|__\__ ,.,,,.,.,,.,\|_O _______ O_]

01-18-2022, 07:02 PM	#12
pwdcougar Registered User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,302	Re: NJ Suburban That's a lot of work but all do-able. Take your time and it will work out. Grincoloco has a bit about doing the amp volt swap and it looks pretty straightforward. It might be something to do on my 70 since it may be years before the cluster is installed. Good luck and keep up the progress and updates in your build thread! __________________ "You know that little thing in your head that keeps you from saying things you shouldn't? Yeah well, I don't have one of those" 1969 Mercury Cougar Standard 4 speed 1969 Mercury Cougar XR7 convertible 1970 4WD Chevrolet Suburban 1997 4WD Chevrolet Silverado Extended Cab Short Bed (purchased new January 1997)

01-19-2022, 10:22 AM	#13
HO455 Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 10,861	Re: NJ Suburban I did the voltmeter conversion with square body guts. It was pretty straightforward and the only real challenge was getting the needle on the shaft in the right place so the meter showed 12 volts with the needle on the center mark of the old ampmeter face. __________________ Thanks to Bob and Jeanie and everyone else at Superior Performance for all their great help. RIP Bob Parks. 1967 Burban (the WMB),1988 S10 Blazer (the Stink10 II),1969 GTO (the Goat), 1970 Javelin, 1952 F2 Ford OHC six 4X4, 29 Model A, 72 Firebird (the DBP Bird). 85 Alfa Romeo If it breaks I didn't want it in the first place The WMB repair thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=698377

01-19-2022, 03:00 PM	#15
HO455 Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 10,861	Re: NJ Suburban I used a variable power supply to get exactly 12.00 volts. Then it took 5 or 6 tries to get the needle in the correct orientation on the shaft. As I didn't see a good way to hold the shaft while pushing the needle on the shaft. I had to redo it as the shaft would move and the needle would not be where I wanted it. It took maybe 15 minutes to make it indicate satisfactory. __________________ Thanks to Bob and Jeanie and everyone else at Superior Performance for all their great help. RIP Bob Parks. 1967 Burban (the WMB),1988 S10 Blazer (the Stink10 II),1969 GTO (the Goat), 1970 Javelin, 1952 F2 Ford OHC six 4X4, 29 Model A, 72 Firebird (the DBP Bird). 85 Alfa Romeo If it breaks I didn't want it in the first place The WMB repair thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=698377

01-19-2022, 04:12 PM	#16
kev2809 low n' slo Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: rosenberg, texas Posts: 5,134	Re: NJ Suburban that's great idea __________________ 67 1/2 ton Suburban - Project DRGNWGN. Build thread -_--_--_ _________ _--_-_ -/____\|__\|__\__ ,.,,,.,.,,.,\|_O _______ O_]

02-06-2022, 01:00 AM	#17
pwdcougar Registered User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,302	Re: NJ Suburban Tonight's project. Attached Images __________________ "You know that little thing in your head that keeps you from saying things you shouldn't? Yeah well, I don't have one of those" 1969 Mercury Cougar Standard 4 speed 1969 Mercury Cougar XR7 convertible 1970 4WD Chevrolet Suburban 1997 4WD Chevrolet Silverado Extended Cab Short Bed (purchased new January 1997)

02-06-2022, 10:17 PM	#18
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,342	Re: NJ Suburban - I would like to try the voltmeter conversion on one of mine. I will have to read that again. LockDoc __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 -

02-10-2022, 11:35 PM	#19
pwdcougar Registered User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,302	Re: NJ Suburban Sandblasted some brackets tonight. Saturday I'll put a coat of epoxy primer on them. Can someone tell me what the L shaped piece is at the top center? My guess is that it supports the hood latch. Attached Images __________________ "You know that little thing in your head that keeps you from saying things you shouldn't? Yeah well, I don't have one of those" 1969 Mercury Cougar Standard 4 speed 1969 Mercury Cougar XR7 convertible 1970 4WD Chevrolet Suburban 1997 4WD Chevrolet Silverado Extended Cab Short Bed (purchased new January 1997)

02-15-2022, 04:47 PM	#20
pwdcougar Registered User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,302	Re: NJ Suburban Brackets all painted and stored away! Attached Images __________________ "You know that little thing in your head that keeps you from saying things you shouldn't? Yeah well, I don't have one of those" 1969 Mercury Cougar Standard 4 speed 1969 Mercury Cougar XR7 convertible 1970 4WD Chevrolet Suburban 1997 4WD Chevrolet Silverado Extended Cab Short Bed (purchased new January 1997)

02-16-2022, 11:07 AM	#22
pwdcougar Registered User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,302	Re: NJ Suburban Thanks Leon. I’m just chipping away at small stuff. They finally broke ground on my pole barn so by summer hopefully the exterior paint can get done. The barn will be 24’ by 40’ with heat and 12’ ceilings. Paul __________________ "You know that little thing in your head that keeps you from saying things you shouldn't? Yeah well, I don't have one of those" 1969 Mercury Cougar Standard 4 speed 1969 Mercury Cougar XR7 convertible 1970 4WD Chevrolet Suburban 1997 4WD Chevrolet Silverado Extended Cab Short Bed (purchased new January 1997)



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08-30-2022, 10:36 PM	#24
pwdcougar Registered User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,302	Re: NJ Suburban Finally some room to work! Paul Attached Images __________________ "You know that little thing in your head that keeps you from saying things you shouldn't? Yeah well, I don't have one of those" 1969 Mercury Cougar Standard 4 speed 1969 Mercury Cougar XR7 convertible 1970 4WD Chevrolet Suburban 1997 4WD Chevrolet Silverado Extended Cab Short Bed (purchased new January 1997)

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