Classic performance parts steering wheel crooked

[K10-Kansas]

Does your gear selection indicator sit at 12:00? I just installed my CPP column and my indicator is sitting at 12:30. The notch in the steering column shaft that sits over the protruding notch in the brake pedal steering column mount housing, those notches don't line up centered between the shift indicator screws. Are everyone's shift indicators slanted to the right?

[best view]

Wow that’s hard to look at

[special-K]

I feel like I'm eating a taco

[HO455]

Yep, that's cockeyed.

[68 C10 Driver]

Just out of curiosity, what does it look like on the other side of the firewall at the bracket?

[K10-Kansas]

Originally Posted by 68 C10 Driver

Just out of curiosity, what does it look like on the other side of the firewall at the bracket?

Here's the engine bay side

[clay68c10]

It should be straight up at 12:00
The rectangular holes in the column tube should line up with it.

[K10-Kansas]

I called CPP and they say they are looking at their columns to see if there is a problem. I called IDIDIT and they said their columns don't have this problem because the user drills the shift indicator holes themselves. I called local IDIDIT reseller and he says he cuts the brake housing nipple off to make the CPP columns straight. I'm not doing that. I imagine I'll get a replacement CPP column or I return it and get an IDIDIT column.

This has been a ton of work and hassle with the issues with the CPP column. I feel like they owe me $500 in labor costs.

[Montierth]

I have been looking at the CPP tilt column due to the price and their saying it is all new. The shift indicator lining up right is one of the reasons I would want to change out my current stock column. Did CPP ever get back to you? Sounds like paying the bigger money and going with IDIDIT is the way to go for me.

[68 C10 Driver]

I was going to say loosen the column clamps on the firewall and under the dash and rotate the column counter clockwise, but that would put the shifter in an odd angle. Looks like that column you have is actually defective.

I have seen the IDIDIT units and they look really nice...or get a used GM tilt column and refurbish it.

[K10-Kansas]

Originally Posted by Montierth

I have been looking at the CPP tilt column due to the price and their saying it is all new. The shift indicator lining up right is one of the reasons I would want to change out my current stock column. Did CPP ever get back to you? Sounds like paying the bigger money and going with IDIDIT is the way to go for me.

I emailed them again and no reply.

[K10-Kansas]

Originally Posted by 68 C10 Driver

I was going to say loosen the column clamps on the firewall and under the dash and rotate the column counter clockwise, but that would put the shifter in an odd angle. Looks like that column you have is actually defective.

I have seen the IDIDIT units and they look really nice...or get a used GM tilt column and refurbish it.

The only way I could rotate the column is if I ground off the nipple in the "firewall-brake pedal-column support housing".

[Casper42]

hum. its odd indeed. Perhaps your signiture might explain something about the fit:
1971 GMC C10 cab. 71-72 Chevy grill. Maybe a 77-78 K10 frame. Long bed cut to short bed step side. Manual changed over to automatic R700 4 speed

It seems your truck has had a LOT of work. Perhaps this is not a CPP issue. hum

[K10-Kansas]

Originally Posted by Casper42

hum. its odd indeed. Perhaps your signiture might explain something about the fit:
1971 GMC C10 cab. 71-72 Chevy grill. Maybe a 77-78 K10 frame. Long bed cut to short bed step side. Manual changed over to automatic R700 4 speed

It seems your truck has had a LOT of work. Perhaps this is not a CPP issue. hum

I think the center nipple in the brake-clutch-steering support for all trucks is centered. Mine is centered. I confirmed that the notch cut into the steering column that the nipples set into is offset from the 2 holes that hold the gear selection indicator for the classic performance parts steering column hanging on the wall at LMC just like the CPP column I installed is offset. Since their columns are offset and C10 nipples are centered then the columns would look offset. A fabricator i called also confirmed that he cuts the nipple off C10 trucks to get CCP columns to sit straight.

[special-K]

Column fitment only involves the cab and all columns interchange in 67-72 trucks

[Montierth]

Originally Posted by K10-Kansas

I think the center nipple in the brake-clutch-steering support for all trucks is centered. Mine is centered. I confirmed that the notch cut into the steering column that the nipples set into is offset from the 2 holes that hold the gear selection indicator for the classic performance parts steering column hanging on the wall at LMC just like the CPP column I installed is offset. Since their columns are offset and C10 nipples are centered then the columns would look offset. A fabricator i called also confirmed that he cuts the nipple off C10 trucks to get CCP columns to sit straight.

I am trying to picture what you mean by cutting off the center nipple in the brake-clutch-steering support. Is this inside the cab or under hood? Is this on the column or on the truck that you are having to cut? Just curious. Thanks

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[K10-Kansas]

CPP is claiming that all C10 trucks have offset gear selection indicators

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Now that’s funny I’d tell them the experts in this truck club are seeing this and all potential customers

[Johnl48]

Tilt column I got here from Don D lined up perfectly. No issues

[K10-Kansas]

Originally Posted by Montierth

I am trying to picture what you mean by cutting off the center nipple in the brake-clutch-steering support. Is this inside the cab or under hood? Is this on the column or on the truck that you are having to cut? Just curious. Thanks

Here is the nipple I was referring to.

[K10-Kansas]

I need some pictures to show the CPP representative that the indicator housing should be centered. Could you all post some pictures in this thread?

[special-K]

I'd tell Moises Perez to let me talk to your QC Dept. so they can convince me as easily as they convinced you, with a poor and incorrect answer! Oh but wait, the customer in the store confirmed it. My bad. The thousands of people who think the indicator should sit square, based on the view from the driver seat or their truck, are wrong. Or, maybe he should have asked that customer if his column was a CPP as well.

[Jason Banks]

CPP doesn't give a damn. My dealings with them were similar, they will do anything but admit their parts are poorly designed..

[Montierth]

Originally Posted by K10-Kansas

Here is the nipple I was referring to.

Ahh I see. Now I gotta look at mine. Assuming the support/brace would have the nipple regardless if automatic or clutch truck.

Maybe a longshot but I think I saw in a previous post your dash was bent. Would that play into this at all? Just a thot?