Best IFS set-up for 56 Chevy Pickup front? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

fuel68 · 04-18-2011, 04:46 PM

Where should I spend my $$$?

SCOTI · 04-18-2011, 05:22 PM

1st choice = No Limits. Other possibilities are Scotts Hot Rods or try Porterbuilt Streetrods. All 3 support this site!

tech@scottshotrods · 04-18-2011, 05:59 PM

Scoti,
Why is No Limit your first choice? Scott's, Porter and No limit all put out a good product too?
here's a pic of our front IFS on our 55 that Justin beat the crap out of, 15,000 miles in one year and if any of you know justin thats like 60,00 regular miles hahahaha

tech@scottshotrods · 04-18-2011, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuel68

Where should I spend my $$$?

coil over or air complete hub to hub Scott's front IFS 2395.00 with free shipping in the US

**robnolimit** · 04-18-2011, 08:01 PM

Where ever you purchase, do your homework. There are many different types of from kits avail., and different manufacturers may focus on different areas. Price, Performance, Looks, Ride quality, Stance.... When you do compare price, be sure to compare apples to apples. Many companies charge extra for power racks, sway bars, boxing plates, and large brakes. While I have my own opinions, I will keep MOST to my self. I will warn you , however, to stay clear of Helix, and anything coming out of the Phoenix area associated with AIM, there is no love lost here, and I feel it is my duty to warn you of un-safe items that may kill you, or your family. (or me if I'm driving next to you)-(selfish, I know). Please at least take a look at our Wide-Ride IFS to see if it fits your needs. Good Luck with your project.

chapster · 04-18-2011, 08:29 PM

Jon,

Where do we find more pics of that 55 build?

fuel68 · 04-18-2011, 10:46 PM

Thanks for the info guys...will post up a pic of the project soon. Looking for a plain jane, black components, no shiny suspension kind of parts! Truck will be a driver for local cruise-ins and just to goof off in. Keep the info coming!!!

tech@scottshotrods · 04-19-2011, 04:42 PM

As for our STANDARD brake kits which is standard like mentioned we have all sizes available due to wheel fitment some brake kits may not be suitable for the application, further more the 11" rotor we use was used on a granada a 4000lb car. I used the shops listed because they are a couple of our biggest accounts ordering 3-5 front cross members a week. of course on high end builds we use 12"-13"-14" kits when permited. Also one thing unique about us at Scott's is that we are a high end build facility as well as a manufacture.
Nate and I have been friends for years (I was his rep while at air ride) and have carried that friendship along to this very day, same for Rob. I have a very unbias opinion and believe we all build a quality piece. One thing I have seen in the 6 months I've been with Scott's is every ones appreciation for the quality of product that we put out, every show I go to and every new account I pick up comments on how nice of a piece it is.

andrewmp6 · 04-20-2011, 10:25 AM

If you don't mind welding you could use a f body subframe or even clip a s10 frame too.The f body would be better you can get a rack and pinion easy for it,Also both are easy to air bag and big brakes.

SCOTI · 04-20-2011, 10:58 AM

Several possibilities..... The budget will ultimately narrow the choices in most cases. What's the budget here?

Hottrucks · 04-20-2011, 06:49 PM

I have to agree with Scoti...its all has to do with budget....I like Scotts stuff.. used it for years but I see his point about any certian ways items are build,used or built for adjustment...
another thing to think about is welding/fab capabilities.....you can buy alot of weld in parts and they will work and be safe if you can put them in yourself you can save a buck or two

so we really need to know what your end goal is??

how low do you want it
what type of steering
air or spring or coil over
what are you going to use the truck for
what wheels ( brake size)

IMAO I would look for a bolt in kit MOST of the kits out there are pretty complete this is a place you dont want to go back and do again....on a side note MARK YOUR CENTER OF WHEEL WELL BEFORE YOU TAKE THE FENDERS OFF...you'll thank me later...

another option I would use ( I'm old school) is just add a disc brake spindle and a lowering springs with a good panard bar....I love the look of a Kool straight axle they drive fine handle well and did I mention How Kool they look!!!

Painter D · 04-20-2011, 08:40 PM

Sure am glad I decided to read this thread ,not only is it entertaining it's full of good info, especially since I'm in the market for a 55-59 Chevy pickup.

andrewmp6 · 04-20-2011, 10:31 PM

I'm in the middle of redneckville they don't buy anything they hit the junkyards.The 68-79 nova and car's based off it used a 2ngd gen f body subframe,There is a ton of kits out there most are mustang 2 based just welding in a gm clip is a lot cheaper is why most do it.

fuel68 · 04-21-2011, 08:16 PM

I want it to be low...If you guys look at last months Hot Rod magazine there was a 55 Chevy pickup from Wisconsin...that is my end goal looks wise. Zero cosmetic stuff! Engine will be an 454 out of my 89 dually. I will say a driver for now, but who knows there may just be a turbo in the works...you never know!

As far as fab work needed my best friend is a certified tig welder so welding is not a concern at all!

Coilovers
Manual rack
Drive it on nice days
Probably 11-12" brakes and some aftermarkets skinnies up front.

Thanks in advance for the info...This forum is great!!!

andrewmp6 · 04-22-2011, 03:32 AM

Both scotts and nolimit up there will have anything you could want for it,Probably a forum member discount too.Any thoughts on the rear end and rear suspension?If your planing big power later i would look in to a new frame now so your ready when it comes time.

Hottrucks · 04-22-2011, 06:25 AM

after reading that I think you need to talk to a good vender and buy a weld in kit......box up your frame and work your way to the back...who ever you deal with be sure to see What they are going to do for you about buying a 4 link for the rear......if your going to run skinnies than plan on a disc brake rear too....

be sure to start a build it sounds like a fun build

Jeff

fuel68 · 04-22-2011, 01:59 PM

Suuposed to go pick the truck and parts up this weekend. It will be a slow project cause the race car gets finished first! haha...Oh yeah, dad's 57 4X4 needs finishing also!!!

m6z · 04-23-2011, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCOTI

1st choice = No Limits. Other possibilities are Scotts Hot Rods or try Porterbuilt Streetrods. All 3 support this site!

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCOTI

Several possibilities..... The budget will ultimately narrow the choices in most cases. What's the budget here?

What's up with the edit? Not allowed to voice our opinions on supporting vendors products? He wasn't bashing anyone, just stating why he(and I'm sure others) prefers no limits stuff over scotts.

andrewmp6 · 04-24-2011, 06:18 AM

When you get the truck take some pictures and do a build thread on here.

fuel68 · 04-24-2011, 12:58 PM

Change of plans possible- Secured a 12 Valve cummins this weekend and I am really strongly considering this engine. Does this change everyones opinion on a front set-up? Cummins weighs in over 1000 lbs!

**robnolimit** · 04-24-2011, 01:29 PM

I have seen several diesel swaps, and not many with good results. The cummings, & trans will wiegh more than 2x the normal small block-AOD set up. And, all of it is front wieght. Now, not to say it cant be done, but, adding heavier springs to and IFS is not enough. Even our Wide-Ride IFS has it's performance boundries. The successfull diesel swaps that I have seen move toward more 'work truck' components, such as chev's '73 - '87 platforms, but, they are wider than the '55 - '59, so stance and wheel choice come into play. Please remember that this is just my humble opinion, and I'm trying to help

Have a Happy Easter.

entourageguy · 04-24-2011, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m6z

What's up with the edit? Not allowed to voice our opinions on supporting vendors products? He wasn't bashing anyone, just stating why he(and I'm sure others) prefers no limits stuff over scotts.

Don't see any edit in this thread. Both statments made at different times..
Both are still on here.

cajundragger · 04-24-2011, 07:59 PM

in a truck that already has way too much weight on the front vs. rear I think a cummins would be a tire smoking animal and thats about it.

may as well keep a straight axle underneath the front because no matter what it will handle terrible.

fuel68 · 04-24-2011, 08:56 PM

Does anyone know about this truck and the front suspension on it? I can't imagine a 56 frame wouldn't be stronger than today's 1/2 ton frames.

http://www.dieselpowermag.com/featur...ram/index.html

*Shane* · 04-24-2011, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by entourageguy

Don't see any edit in this thread. Both statments made at different times..
Both are still on here.

you won't see the edits ... only mods see them.

04-18-2011, 04:46 PM	#1
fuel68 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Winchester Posts: 30	Best IFS set-up for 56 Chevy Pickup front? Where should I spend my $$$? __________________ 1956 Pickup-Work in Progress 1990 LX with BBF and SJ FOGGER-X275 Car

04-18-2011, 05:22 PM	#2
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 21,915	Re: Best IFS set-up for 56 Chevy Pickup front? 1st choice = No Limits. Other possibilities are Scotts Hot Rods or try Porterbuilt Streetrods. All 3 support this site! __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

04-18-2011, 05:59 PM	#3
tech@scottshotrods Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: california Posts: 631	Re: Best IFS set-up for 56 Chevy Pickup front? Scoti, Why is No Limit your first choice? Scott's, Porter and No limit all put out a good product too? here's a pic of our front IFS on our 55 that Justin beat the crap out of, 15,000 miles in one year and if any of you know justin thats like 60,00 regular miles hahahaha Last edited by N2TRUX; 04-22-2011 at 09:05 AM.

04-18-2011, 08:01 PM	#5
robnolimit Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Dandridge, Tn. USA Posts: 2,226	Re: Best IFS set-up for 56 Chevy Pickup front? Where ever you purchase, do your homework. There are many different types of from kits avail., and different manufacturers may focus on different areas. Price, Performance, Looks, Ride quality, Stance.... When you do compare price, be sure to compare apples to apples. Many companies charge extra for power racks, sway bars, boxing plates, and large brakes. While I have my own opinions, I will keep MOST to my self. I will warn you , however, to stay clear of Helix, and anything coming out of the Phoenix area associated with AIM, there is no love lost here, and I feel it is my duty to warn you of un-safe items that may kill you, or your family. (or me if I'm driving next to you)-(selfish, I know). Please at least take a look at our Wide-Ride IFS to see if it fits your needs. Good Luck with your project. __________________ GoodGuys 2012 Pro-Truck Champion 2012 Truckin' Throwdown Champion GoodGuys 2011 National Champion 2011 Truckin' Throwdown Champion GoodGuys 2010 National Champion Proud to put our products up against all others!

04-18-2011, 08:29 PM	#6
chapster Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: .. Posts: 455	Re: Best IFS set-up for 56 Chevy Pickup front? Jon, Where do we find more pics of that 55 build? __________________ 1967 GMC shorty Parts Pile: NoLimit, Accu Air, Kore 3, Matts Classic Bowtie, March Performance, Lokar, ScottsHot Rods, Vintage Air, American Auto Wire, Circle D, Accu Air, Borla, Budnik, Ididit, One Piece Windows, Doug Thorley, Pypes, AutoLoc, Porterbuilt, CPP, Dynamat, Dakota Digital, Fesler 1968 Chevy c10 shorty Stepper (Patina LS project) 1967 gmc custom Long Box (Farm Truck Project)

04-18-2011, 10:46 PM	#7
fuel68 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Winchester Posts: 30	Re: Best IFS set-up for 56 Chevy Pickup front? Thanks for the info guys...will post up a pic of the project soon. Looking for a plain jane, black components, no shiny suspension kind of parts! Truck will be a driver for local cruise-ins and just to goof off in. Keep the info coming!!! __________________ 1956 Pickup-Work in Progress 1990 LX with BBF and SJ FOGGER-X275 Car

04-19-2011, 04:42 PM	#8
tech@scottshotrods Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: california Posts: 631	Re: Best IFS set-up for 56 Chevy Pickup front? As for our STANDARD brake kits which is standard like mentioned we have all sizes available due to wheel fitment some brake kits may not be suitable for the application, further more the 11" rotor we use was used on a granada a 4000lb car. I used the shops listed because they are a couple of our biggest accounts ordering 3-5 front cross members a week. of course on high end builds we use 12"-13"-14" kits when permited. Also one thing unique about us at Scott's is that we are a high end build facility as well as a manufacture. Nate and I have been friends for years (I was his rep while at air ride) and have carried that friendship along to this very day, same for Rob. I have a very unbias opinion and believe we all build a quality piece. One thing I have seen in the 6 months I've been with Scott's is every ones appreciation for the quality of product that we put out, every show I go to and every new account I pick up comments on how nice of a piece it is. Last edited by N2TRUX; 04-21-2011 at 08:08 AM.

04-20-2011, 10:25 AM	#9
andrewmp6 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Louisville,Ky Posts: 5,811	Re: Best IFS set-up for 56 Chevy Pickup front? If you don't mind welding you could use a f body subframe or even clip a s10 frame too.The f body would be better you can get a rack and pinion easy for it,Also both are easy to air bag and big brakes.

04-20-2011, 10:58 AM	#10
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 21,915	Re: Best IFS set-up for 56 Chevy Pickup front? Several possibilities..... The budget will ultimately narrow the choices in most cases. What's the budget here? __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

04-20-2011, 06:49 PM	#11
Hottrucks Redefining LowBudget Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: lebanon Cow Hampshire Posts: 4,538	Re: Best IFS set-up for 56 Chevy Pickup front? I have to agree with Scoti...its all has to do with budget....I like Scotts stuff.. used it for years but I see his point about any certian ways items are build,used or built for adjustment... another thing to think about is welding/fab capabilities.....you can buy alot of weld in parts and they will work and be safe if you can put them in yourself you can save a buck or two so we really need to know what your end goal is?? how low do you want it what type of steering air or spring or coil over what are you going to use the truck for what wheels ( brake size) IMAO I would look for a bolt in kit MOST of the kits out there are pretty complete this is a place you dont want to go back and do again....on a side note MARK YOUR CENTER OF WHEEL WELL BEFORE YOU TAKE THE FENDERS OFF...you'll thank me later... another option I would use ( I'm old school) is just add a disc brake spindle and a lowering springs with a good panard bar....I love the look of a Kool straight axle they drive fine handle well and did I mention How Kool they look!!! __________________ 1970 C10 CST fleetside 472 ....big dreams little cash... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=335721 SunShine Syndicate.. Mikes Sandwich Fair Run OCT 8th 2011 http://www.thesandwichfair.com/html/...auto_show.html

04-20-2011, 08:40 PM	#12
Painter D Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: DFW (Forney) Posts: 1,529	Re: Best IFS set-up for 56 Chevy Pickup front? Sure am glad I decided to read this thread ,not only is it entertaining it's full of good info, especially since I'm in the market for a 55-59 Chevy pickup. __________________ '58 SWB Fleetside...Front & Rear Porterbuilt Dropmember, 6.0 LS /4L60E. Accuair E-level, 20 Billet Specialties (Vintecs) '63 Buick Riviera ... AccuAir E-level, 20" Billet Specialties (Vintecs) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=528853&page=5

04-20-2011, 10:31 PM	#13
andrewmp6 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Louisville,Ky Posts: 5,811	Re: Best IFS set-up for 56 Chevy Pickup front? I'm in the middle of redneckville they don't buy anything they hit the junkyards.The 68-79 nova and car's based off it used a 2ngd gen f body subframe,There is a ton of kits out there most are mustang 2 based just welding in a gm clip is a lot cheaper is why most do it.

04-21-2011, 08:16 PM	#14
fuel68 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Winchester Posts: 30	Re: Best IFS set-up for 56 Chevy Pickup front? I want it to be low...If you guys look at last months Hot Rod magazine there was a 55 Chevy pickup from Wisconsin...that is my end goal looks wise. Zero cosmetic stuff! Engine will be an 454 out of my 89 dually. I will say a driver for now, but who knows there may just be a turbo in the works...you never know! As far as fab work needed my best friend is a certified tig welder so welding is not a concern at all! Coilovers Manual rack Drive it on nice days Probably 11-12" brakes and some aftermarkets skinnies up front. Thanks in advance for the info...This forum is great!!! __________________ 1956 Pickup-Work in Progress 1990 LX with BBF and SJ FOGGER-X275 Car Last edited by fuel68; 04-21-2011 at 08:19 PM.

04-22-2011, 03:32 AM	#15
andrewmp6 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Louisville,Ky Posts: 5,811	Re: Best IFS set-up for 56 Chevy Pickup front? Both scotts and nolimit up there will have anything you could want for it,Probably a forum member discount too.Any thoughts on the rear end and rear suspension?If your planing big power later i would look in to a new frame now so your ready when it comes time.

04-22-2011, 06:25 AM	#16
Hottrucks Redefining LowBudget Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: lebanon Cow Hampshire Posts: 4,538	Re: Best IFS set-up for 56 Chevy Pickup front? after reading that I think you need to talk to a good vender and buy a weld in kit......box up your frame and work your way to the back...who ever you deal with be sure to see What they are going to do for you about buying a 4 link for the rear......if your going to run skinnies than plan on a disc brake rear too.... be sure to start a build it sounds like a fun build Jeff __________________ 1970 C10 CST fleetside 472 ....big dreams little cash... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=335721 SunShine Syndicate.. Mikes Sandwich Fair Run OCT 8th 2011 http://www.thesandwichfair.com/html/...auto_show.html



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04-22-2011, 01:59 PM	#17
fuel68 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Winchester Posts: 30	Re: Best IFS set-up for 56 Chevy Pickup front? Suuposed to go pick the truck and parts up this weekend. It will be a slow project cause the race car gets finished first! haha...Oh yeah, dad's 57 4X4 needs finishing also!!! __________________ 1956 Pickup-Work in Progress 1990 LX with BBF and SJ FOGGER-X275 Car Last edited by fuel68; 04-22-2011 at 02:02 PM.

04-24-2011, 06:18 AM	#19
andrewmp6 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Louisville,Ky Posts: 5,811	Re: Best IFS set-up for 56 Chevy Pickup front? When you get the truck take some pictures and do a build thread on here.

04-24-2011, 12:58 PM	#20
fuel68 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Winchester Posts: 30	Re: Best IFS set-up for 56 Chevy Pickup front? Change of plans possible- Secured a 12 Valve cummins this weekend and I am really strongly considering this engine. Does this change everyones opinion on a front set-up? Cummins weighs in over 1000 lbs! __________________ 1956 Pickup-Work in Progress 1990 LX with BBF and SJ FOGGER-X275 Car

04-24-2011, 01:29 PM	#21
robnolimit Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Dandridge, Tn. USA Posts: 2,226	Re: Best IFS set-up for 56 Chevy Pickup front? I have seen several diesel swaps, and not many with good results. The cummings, & trans will wiegh more than 2x the normal small block-AOD set up. And, all of it is front wieght. Now, not to say it cant be done, but, adding heavier springs to and IFS is not enough. Even our Wide-Ride IFS has it's performance boundries. The successfull diesel swaps that I have seen move toward more 'work truck' components, such as chev's '73 - '87 platforms, but, they are wider than the '55 - '59, so stance and wheel choice come into play. Please remember that this is just my humble opinion, and I'm trying to help Have a Happy Easter. __________________ GoodGuys 2012 Pro-Truck Champion 2012 Truckin' Throwdown Champion GoodGuys 2011 National Champion 2011 Truckin' Throwdown Champion GoodGuys 2010 National Champion Proud to put our products up against all others!

04-24-2011, 07:59 PM	#23
cajundragger Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: louisiana Posts: 1,008	Re: Best IFS set-up for 56 Chevy Pickup front? in a truck that already has way too much weight on the front vs. rear I think a cummins would be a tire smoking animal and thats about it. may as well keep a straight axle underneath the front because no matter what it will handle terrible.

04-24-2011, 08:56 PM	#24
fuel68 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Winchester Posts: 30	Re: Best IFS set-up for 56 Chevy Pickup front? Does anyone know about this truck and the front suspension on it? I can't imagine a 56 frame wouldn't be stronger than today's 1/2 ton frames. http://www.dieselpowermag.com/featur...ram/index.html __________________ 1956 Pickup-Work in Progress 1990 LX with BBF and SJ FOGGER-X275 Car Last edited by fuel68; 04-24-2011 at 08:57 PM.

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