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jb4short · 03-12-2007, 05:01 AM

Sorry for putting this in two posts; but the other thread was getting kind of long and I wasn't sure if people would keep checking it.

Anyway; I went down to the other factory this morning. Some of you should recognize this:

Here's someone's old truck sitting on the third floor of the factory for measuring and test fitting parts:

Anyone in South Carolina remember owning this?

We got the cowl sample here and discussed making a stock replacement and a modified smooth one. The modified would be less antenna hole and the vent slots would be turned to face front to back, like the old Camaro, and would only go from the washer nozzle outboard about 5-1/2". This would really smooth out the look but retain some functionality. Thoughts?

We also discussed making a complete replacement shortbed frame. Do you think this is worth doing? Would it be worth the money to start your project on a brand new frame vs. finding/cleaning up an original?

Any suggestions are appreciated and the LWB bedsides should ship to us within a month.

**Palf70Step** · 03-12-2007, 05:25 AM

Kool

mrein3 · 03-12-2007, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Tri-ProAutomotive

Any suggestions are appreciated and the LWB bedsides should ship to us within a month.

BOY OH BOY. Talk about timing. Any guestimate on what a pair of LWB bedsides are going to run me? And when you you will be ready to ship them out?

I was planning on buying a stud gun and ATTEMPTING to straighten out my sides this spring but it sure would be a whole heck of a lot easier AND QUICKER to bolt a new pair on.

jb4short · 03-12-2007, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mrein3

BOY OH BOY. Talk about timing. Any guestimate on what a pair of LWB bedsides are going to run me? And when you you will be ready to ship them out?

I was planning on buying a stud gun and ATTEMPTING to straighten out my sides this spring but it sure would be a whole heck of a lot easier AND QUICKER to bolt a new pair on.

no pricing yet; but they are supposed to ship to us within a month....then a month on the ocean so they should be in stock in May

Also; if someone has a damaged or unuseable 6' bedside we cold use the lower rear corner for development. If you think you could supply it PM me and I'll hightlight where to cut it out.

mrein3 · 03-12-2007, 07:23 AM

Thanks for the quick response. And please keep us posted. Not long ago there was a thread about what parts folks would like to see. LOTS of people were screaming for LWB bedsides.

**ghackett1** · 03-12-2007, 07:25 AM

That is totally awesome. Do I see a first generation camaro or bird on the other side of that truck?

sixtysevengmc · 03-12-2007, 07:35 AM

YES!!

arkracing · 03-12-2007, 08:03 AM

are these LWB bedside going to be like the SWB and be the inner and outers?
or are they going to be just the outer skins?

I'm sure they won't be cheap - but they look like a quality product

**FRENCHBLUE72** · 03-12-2007, 09:14 AM

Finally someone steps up for the lwb guys...

jb4short · 03-12-2007, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ghackett1

That is totally awesome. Do I see a first generation camaro or bird on the other side of that truck?

Yes...looked like an RS.

The bedside will be the complete bolt on with the inner and outer just like the original. I asked him to also run some without the marker holes for the '67 guys.

Freight will definately be expensive on these. As soon as I get back I'll talk to the local pallet manufacturer to see what we can construct for safe shipping.

CG · 03-12-2007, 09:20 AM

20 years from now someone is going to purchase one of these trucks that has had these sides put on it and they are going to cut em down cause they wanted a short bed

jb4short · 03-12-2007, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by CG

20 years from now someone is going to purchase one of these trucks that has had these sides put on it and they are going to cut em down cause they wanted a short bed

LOL!

Any thoughts on the complete SWB frame?

Joe67 · 03-12-2007, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Tri-ProAutomotive

We got the cowl sample here and discussed making a stock replacement and a modified smooth one. The modified would be less antenna hole and the vent slots would be turned to face front to back, like the old Camaro, and would only go from the washer nozzle outboard about 5-1/2". This would really smooth out the look but retain some functionality. Thoughts?

We also discussed making a complete replacement shortbed frame. Do you think this is worth doing? Would it be worth the money to start your project on a brand new frame vs. finding/cleaning up an original?

Any suggestions are appreciated and the LWB bedsides should ship to us within a month.

That cowl panel sounds interesting

replacement frames would depend on price to the end customer. Often SWB rolling chassis are available for under $300 complete, but it is usually a location issue.

If it was priced right, I would have ordered a complete new SWB frame for my project truck

**Yukon Jack** · 03-12-2007, 09:41 AM

Very awesome!

GMC71k20 · 03-12-2007, 09:55 AM

would the swb frames be available for both 4wd and 2wd? not sure how you would go about doing that cause i don't know the differences if there are any. also, what ballpark would the price range be in? i think the frames would sell becuase they are not an easy find and the prices of swb's are only going to increase.

jb4short · 03-12-2007, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by GMC71k20

would the swb frames be available for both 4wd and 2wd? not sure how you would go about doing that cause i don't know the differences if there are any. also, what ballpark would the price range be in? i think the frames would sell becuase they are not an easy find and the prices of swb's are only going to increase.

He's going to work up a calculation on the cost. I was thinnking a 2WD coil spring rear frame. As far as differences there are experts on here that can answer that question...I'd like to know also. I am not so familiar with these trucks that it would be anything but a guess for me. I know there's a SWB frame already sitting there....so we wouldn't need to find one.

The natural extension of this would be a LWB conversion kit; I.E, frame and bed components for those who want to build one from a LWB truck.

Zumo · 03-12-2007, 10:25 AM

It's like a dream come true.

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Originally Posted by FRENCHBLUE72

Finally someone steps up for the lwb guys...

**Classic Heartbeat** · 03-12-2007, 11:14 AM

You should talk to the Suburban guys about complete Suburban quarters. WES www.ClassicHeartbeat.com

TierAngst · 03-12-2007, 12:40 PM

I like the idea of an antennaless cowl, I know at a minimum you'd have at least one buyer (me obviously :-P)

1lowdiesel · 03-12-2007, 01:34 PM

where in nj are you at. and yea that cowl would be a cool idea.

arkracing · 03-12-2007, 02:00 PM

As far as the SWB frames are concerned - they don't seem to be in too much demand - and for any fabricator it isn't that hard to cut down a LWB frame - as done in a tech thread here on the board. As mentioned you can ususally get a SWB frame for $300 or less in rolling condition.

Maybe in a few years prices will go up on them - but unless a re-pro SWB 2x4 Coil Frame is less than $600-$700 I they would be a tough sell.

Hmm A Re-Pro Frame, Re-Pro Beds, Re-Pro Doors, Re-Pro Front Clips (lets get a complete cab made (like the '47-'53) and we can have a "kit truck"

Dano69c10 · 03-12-2007, 02:13 PM

Wow I was going to convert to a SWB because they didn't offer new LWB bedsides, but this might change my mind! Man I didn't think I'd live to see the day those would be repopped.
In my opinion, even if you made only the SWB frame rails I would buy those and use my LWB frame crossmembers.This would maybe keep the price down for those wanting to do a conversion and simplify shipping and storage issues.
Dano

**CUSTOM/10** · 03-12-2007, 04:17 PM

SWB 4x4 frames are the hardest to find and bring more money when you do find one. Maybe do a pole on this subject and see witch frame would be the most desirable and what people would be willing to pay for each type of frame.

Gary

70c10swb · 03-12-2007, 05:13 PM

You should get an award!

Any idea about the cowl itself? not just the cover?

gtomechanic · 03-12-2007, 07:33 PM

This is awsome.You are going to save the lives of thousands of trucks and maybe create some new ones. If you do the short frame,I would consider the straight rail 4WD version as it could probably be used for 2 &4 wheel drives. Dont forget about blazer bedsides and floors for all.

03-12-2007, 05:01 AM	#1
jb4short Damn Yankee Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lynchburg, VA Posts: 2,261	Updates pics Sorry for putting this in two posts; but the other thread was getting kind of long and I wasn't sure if people would keep checking it. Anyway; I went down to the other factory this morning. Some of you should recognize this: Here's someone's old truck sitting on the third floor of the factory for measuring and test fitting parts: Anyone in South Carolina remember owning this? We got the cowl sample here and discussed making a stock replacement and a modified smooth one. The modified would be less antenna hole and the vent slots would be turned to face front to back, like the old Camaro, and would only go from the washer nozzle outboard about 5-1/2". This would really smooth out the look but retain some functionality. Thoughts? We also discussed making a complete replacement shortbed frame. Do you think this is worth doing? Would it be worth the money to start your project on a brand new frame vs. finding/cleaning up an original? Any suggestions are appreciated and the LWB bedsides should ship to us within a month. Last edited by jb4short; 03-12-2007 at 05:03 AM.

03-12-2007, 05:25 AM	#2
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03-12-2007, 07:23 AM	#5
mrein3 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Center City, MN, USA Posts: 3,253	Re: Updates pics Thanks for the quick response. And please keep us posted. Not long ago there was a thread about what parts folks would like to see. LOTS of people were screaming for LWB bedsides. __________________ '70 cab, '71 chassis, 383, TH350, NP205. '71 Malibu convertible '72 Malibu hard top Center City, MN

03-12-2007, 07:25 AM	#6
ghackett1 68 C10 Longbed Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 520	Re: Updates pics That is totally awesome. Do I see a first generation camaro or bird on the other side of that truck?

03-12-2007, 07:35 AM	#7
sixtysevengmc village idiot Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Barbourville,KY Posts: 178	Re: Updates pics YES!!

03-12-2007, 08:03 AM	#8
arkracing Weekend Warrior Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: CT Posts: 1,787	Re: Updates pics are these LWB bedside going to be like the SWB and be the inner and outers? or are they going to be just the outer skins? I'm sure they won't be cheap - but they look like a quality product __________________ -'07 GMC Sierra K2500HD -'66 C10 Suburban -'68/'71 K20 Service Bed Project -'69 Chevy C30 Mason Dump -'33Ford P/U 396ChevyPowered

03-12-2007, 09:14 AM	#9
FRENCHBLUE72 PROJECT 7DEUCE Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: GRANTS PASS OR Posts: 21,589	Re: Updates pics Finally someone steps up for the lwb guys... __________________ GO BIG GREEN GO DUCKS MEMBER #6377 72 k-5 daily driver 6'' lift 35'' 350-350-205 slowly getting rust free. Project "7DEUCE" check out my build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=267665 Tim Powell..R.I.P EastSideLowlife..... R.I.P..

03-12-2007, 09:20 AM	#11
CG BlahBlahBlah Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Monroe, Wa. Posts: 19,781	Re: Updates pics 20 years from now someone is going to purchase one of these trucks that has had these sides put on it and they are going to cut em down cause they wanted a short bed

03-12-2007, 09:41 AM	#14
Yukon Jack Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA Posts: 12,683	Re: Updates pics Very awesome! __________________ 1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift 1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile 2012 Kawasaki Concours 14

03-12-2007, 09:55 AM	#15
GMC71k20 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: mass Posts: 1,277	Re: Updates pics would the swb frames be available for both 4wd and 2wd? not sure how you would go about doing that cause i don't know the differences if there are any. also, what ballpark would the price range be in? i think the frames would sell becuase they are not an easy find and the prices of swb's are only going to increase.

03-12-2007, 11:14 AM	#18
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03-12-2007, 12:40 PM	#19
TierAngst Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: San Antonio Posts: 51	Re: Updates pics I like the idea of an antennaless cowl, I know at a minimum you'd have at least one buyer (me obviously :-P)

03-12-2007, 01:34 PM	#20
1lowdiesel Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: central jersey Posts: 763	Re: Updates pics where in nj are you at. and yea that cowl would be a cool idea. __________________ 69 4wd V6 20k orig miles!! 05 ccsb 2wd Diesel 500hp bagged and soon to be stock floored. 01 rcsb chevy 2wd 6bt cummins :devil:> build xtremediesel.com

03-12-2007, 02:00 PM	#21
arkracing Weekend Warrior Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: CT Posts: 1,787	Re: Updates pics As far as the SWB frames are concerned - they don't seem to be in too much demand - and for any fabricator it isn't that hard to cut down a LWB frame - as done in a tech thread here on the board. As mentioned you can ususally get a SWB frame for $300 or less in rolling condition. Maybe in a few years prices will go up on them - but unless a re-pro SWB 2x4 Coil Frame is less than $600-$700 I they would be a tough sell. Hmm A Re-Pro Frame, Re-Pro Beds, Re-Pro Doors, Re-Pro Front Clips (lets get a complete cab made (like the '47-'53) and we can have a "kit truck" __________________ -'07 GMC Sierra K2500HD -'66 C10 Suburban -'68/'71 K20 Service Bed Project -'69 Chevy C30 Mason Dump -'33Ford P/U 396ChevyPowered

03-12-2007, 02:13 PM	#22
Dano69c10 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ontario, Kali Posts: 2,427	Re: Updates pics Wow I was going to convert to a SWB because they didn't offer new LWB bedsides, but this might change my mind! Man I didn't think I'd live to see the day those would be repopped. In my opinion, even if you made only the SWB frame rails I would buy those and use my LWB frame crossmembers.This would maybe keep the price down for those wanting to do a conversion and simplify shipping and storage issues. Dano __________________ '69 Fleet It ain't yours, if you didn't build it!



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03-12-2007, 04:17 PM	#23
CUSTOM/10 Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sandown, NH Posts: 2,796	Re: Updates pics SWB 4x4 frames are the hardest to find and bring more money when you do find one. Maybe do a pole on this subject and see witch frame would be the most desirable and what people would be willing to pay for each type of frame. Gary __________________ Gary 72 SWB 4x4 My 72 SWB Build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=259859

03-12-2007, 05:13 PM	#24
70c10swb no brain no headache Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cape Cod MA Posts: 567	Re: Updates pics You should get an award! Any idea about the cowl itself? not just the cover? __________________ 1996 GMC Sierra z71 1970 SWB 2wd (project)

03-12-2007, 07:33 PM	#25
gtomechanic Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: coatesville,pa Posts: 116	Re: Updates pics This is awsome.You are going to save the lives of thousands of trucks and maybe create some new ones. If you do the short frame,I would consider the straight rail 4WD version as it could probably be used for 2 &4 wheel drives. Dont forget about blazer bedsides and floors for all.

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