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RockTonka · 11-28-2010, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueJeep

Are you going to rebuild the kingpins? I don't think I've ever had one apart that didn't have rusty bearings.

King pins feel smooth and tight, I'm kinda waiting to see if I'm going to go high steer on pass side with a 2wd box and cross over, or keep something close to the stock configuration. I'm leaning toward crossover and will check them out then.

LONGSWHEEL · 11-19-2010, 03:05 PM

Your build is looking awesome. I have a 70 ford with a flat bed that i am fixing to start working on. I love the loke of the flat bed trucks.

**Dieselwrencher** · 11-30-2010, 12:40 PM

Very nice fab work once again!

RockTonka · 12-04-2010, 11:59 PM

Thanks for the remarks, we really appreciate it!

Been working on the power steering set-up. Originally bought a saginaw pump/res, but couldn't fit it in tight to the block because of the short water pump. Chased down a type 2 pump/pulley/remote res from PSC...lots of room to put it where I wanted.

RockTonka · 12-15-2010, 12:49 AM

We've been struggling with which seat we would use.
The original bench had a decent back, but rotted out bottom with missing springs/padding. We were looking at least $500 to get the parts we needed and have the stock bench reupholstered/rebuilt.
We got a set of pull out 2006 chevy truck buckets (with the seat belts in the back) to try...didn't like how they fit in the cab, I wanted more room. They were in perfect condition for $600 w/ center console (no way that was fitting)...so passed on those.
Looked at a mid 80's chevy bench, but wasn't really feeling it. Thought about the Astro van seats, but finding a take out seat in decent condition with a acceptable color wasn't likely...didn't want to reupholster a donor bench to get what I wanted.
So, took some measurements and talked to Twisted Stitch about a extended/expanded version of their Cruiser seat...a low side suspension seat that we liked in our Rhino. A couple weeks later, for about the same $ as reupholstering a bench of some sort, and we have this.
The back looks a bit tall, but we will see how it falls into place.

Kim57 · 12-15-2010, 01:14 AM

Nice looking seat.
Kim

JohnC · 12-15-2010, 10:28 AM

Looks good man. Seats are sometimes a hard decision to make. There are so many factors to conisder, from color, style, size.

I think it will look good in the truck.

RockTonka · 12-16-2010, 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnC

I think it will look good in the truck.

yep, I hope so...if not, I'll have a really nice garage bench

abebummy26 · 12-15-2010, 12:30 PM

Is that a tweed insert in the center?

RockTonka · 12-16-2010, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by abebummy26

Is that a tweed insert in the center?

Yes...

**Dieselwrencher** · 12-16-2010, 04:28 PM

As usual, very nice!

RockTonka · 12-16-2010, 07:54 PM

Thanks DW!

Kinda looks like the seat is going to work

, might of been room to make it an 1-1.5" wider and maybe an inch or so shorter. The base is sitting about an inch higher than the stock bench in the pics...might lower it a bit to bring the back lower relative to the window, but would like to keep the leg room increase too. Close enough to work either way though. Picked up some gut room too

**Dieselwrencher** · 12-16-2010, 09:34 PM

That looks like it fits pretty cool in there.

JohnC · 12-17-2010, 12:35 PM

Should be easy to adjust the height with your mounting system.

Looks good in there.

thirdstreettito · 12-17-2010, 01:16 PM

Damn man! This build is great! I cant believe I never noticed it! You're my hero! :P

RockTonka · 12-19-2010, 11:52 PM

Worked a bit on the seat over the weekend. Made a simple mount that utilized the stock holes, dropping the seat a just a bit under the rear window. Put a bit of lean to it, but still gained gut room and a higher seat...very comfortable for me. (6 ft. tall fat ass)

1985-GMC · 12-19-2010, 11:57 PM

Very nice!

bajabob · 12-20-2010, 12:50 AM

I am jealous, cuz you get to drive yours and I look at parts......... nice work on the seat.

JohnC · 12-20-2010, 09:45 AM

Seat and brackets turned out good.

**Dieselwrencher** · 12-20-2010, 05:58 PM

Man, those seat brackets turned out very nice!

RockTonka · 12-24-2010, 02:22 PM

Loving the seat, put a few trips down to Sonic and around town running errands with the wife and dog...almost makes ya feel like your driving around in a new truck sitting up high and proud

I hear ya Baja...I'm not looking forward to taking it down for the heart transplant. I want to have everything staged and ready before we start, hopefully it will go fast.

JohnC · 12-27-2010, 09:48 AM

Glad to hear the seat is working out how you hoped.

dnights · 12-28-2010, 11:15 AM

That seat looks great. I really like the build. Nothing better than seeing a big truck being brought back to life and the fact you guys get to enjoy it already.

RockTonka · 12-29-2010, 12:57 AM

Thanks for the comments, it keeps us motivated!

The wife was tired of seeing the back of the hood sitting high and set me up with some new hinges/springs for Christmas

dicer · 01-01-2011, 01:31 AM

What method did you use to remove and install the springs? Wood wedges? Special tool?

11-19-2010, 03:05 PM	#2
LONGSWHEEL Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: JACKSONVILLE, FL. Posts: 23	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Your build is looking awesome. I have a 70 ford with a flat bed that i am fixing to start working on. I love the loke of the flat bed trucks.

11-30-2010, 12:40 PM	#3
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,141	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Very nice fab work once again! __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

12-04-2010, 11:59 PM	#4
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,511	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Thanks for the remarks, we really appreciate it! Been working on the power steering set-up. Originally bought a saginaw pump/res, but couldn't fit it in tight to the block because of the short water pump. Chased down a type 2 pump/pulley/remote res from PSC...lots of room to put it where I wanted. Attached Images __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

12-15-2010, 12:49 AM	#5
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,511	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project We've been struggling with which seat we would use. The original bench had a decent back, but rotted out bottom with missing springs/padding. We were looking at least $500 to get the parts we needed and have the stock bench reupholstered/rebuilt. We got a set of pull out 2006 chevy truck buckets (with the seat belts in the back) to try...didn't like how they fit in the cab, I wanted more room. They were in perfect condition for $600 w/ center console (no way that was fitting)...so passed on those. Looked at a mid 80's chevy bench, but wasn't really feeling it. Thought about the Astro van seats, but finding a take out seat in decent condition with a acceptable color wasn't likely...didn't want to reupholster a donor bench to get what I wanted. So, took some measurements and talked to Twisted Stitch about a extended/expanded version of their Cruiser seat...a low side suspension seat that we liked in our Rhino. A couple weeks later, for about the same $ as reupholstering a bench of some sort, and we have this. The back looks a bit tall, but we will see how it falls into place. Attached Images __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread Last edited by RockTonka; 12-15-2010 at 12:54 AM.

12-15-2010, 01:14 AM	#6
Kim57 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Corona, California Posts: 7,998	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Nice looking seat. Kim

12-15-2010, 10:28 AM	#7
JohnC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 7,461	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Looks good man. Seats are sometimes a hard decision to make. There are so many factors to conisder, from color, style, size. I think it will look good in the truck.

12-15-2010, 12:30 PM	#9
abebummy26 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Haven, MO Posts: 1,243	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Is that a tweed insert in the center? __________________ -Lincoln 1987 GMC S15 (soon to be a chevy clone) 2.5l, 4 speed, no ps, no pb, no ac Silence is golden, but duct tape is silver. Spoken by Cletus the hillbilly I like stickers... a whole bunch.

12-16-2010, 04:28 PM	#11
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,141	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project As usual, very nice! __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

12-16-2010, 07:54 PM	#12
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,511	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Thanks DW! Kinda looks like the seat is going to work, might of been room to make it an 1-1.5" wider and maybe an inch or so shorter. The base is sitting about an inch higher than the stock bench in the pics...might lower it a bit to bring the back lower relative to the window, but would like to keep the leg room increase too. Close enough to work either way though. Picked up some gut room too Attached Images __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

12-16-2010, 09:34 PM	#13
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,141	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project That looks like it fits pretty cool in there. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

12-17-2010, 12:35 PM	#14
JohnC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 7,461	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Should be easy to adjust the height with your mounting system. Looks good in there.

12-17-2010, 01:16 PM	#15
thirdstreettito Resident of Here Join Date: May 2008 Location: Wesley Chapel, FL, USA Posts: 7,716	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Damn man! This build is great! I cant believe I never noticed it! You're my hero! :P __________________ ~Bradley~ 2004 Black GTO LS2/T56 too much to list Miss having a truck

12-19-2010, 11:52 PM	#16
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,511	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Worked a bit on the seat over the weekend. Made a simple mount that utilized the stock holes, dropping the seat a just a bit under the rear window. Put a bit of lean to it, but still gained gut room and a higher seat...very comfortable for me. (6 ft. tall fat ass) Attached Images __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

12-19-2010, 11:57 PM	#17
1985-GMC Chevy Enthusiast Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Canyon Lake Texas Posts: 2,024	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Very nice! __________________ Tony 1985 GMC K2500 restoration Project: Rust, White & Blue 1989 Chevy R3500 CC Cummins & 4X4 swap some day... 1989 Burb (D60, 14BFF, 12V, NV4500, NP205, 37" tires in progress)

12-20-2010, 12:50 AM	#18
bajabob Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ventura, Ca. Posts: 439	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project I am jealous, cuz you get to drive yours and I look at parts......... nice work on the seat. __________________ http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=385404



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12-20-2010, 09:45 AM	#19
JohnC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 7,461	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Seat and brackets turned out good.

12-20-2010, 05:58 PM	#20
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,141	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Man, those seat brackets turned out very nice! __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

12-24-2010, 02:22 PM	#21
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,511	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Loving the seat, put a few trips down to Sonic and around town running errands with the wife and dog...almost makes ya feel like your driving around in a new truck sitting up high and proud I hear ya Baja...I'm not looking forward to taking it down for the heart transplant. I want to have everything staged and ready before we start, hopefully it will go fast. __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

12-27-2010, 09:48 AM	#22
JohnC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 7,461	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Glad to hear the seat is working out how you hoped.

12-28-2010, 11:15 AM	#23
dnights Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Lawton, OK Posts: 51	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project That seat looks great. I really like the build. Nothing better than seeing a big truck being brought back to life and the fact you guys get to enjoy it already. __________________ 1948 Chevy 3600 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=417178 1981 Chevy C10 Longbed

12-29-2010, 12:57 AM	#24
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,511	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Thanks for the comments, it keeps us motivated! The wife was tired of seeing the back of the hood sitting high and set me up with some new hinges/springs for Christmas Attached Images __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

01-01-2011, 01:31 AM	#25
dicer Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: seattle, wa Posts: 529	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project What method did you use to remove and install the springs? Wood wedges? Special tool?

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