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Old 05-16-2019, 12:55 PM   #1
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What are these parts on my firewall?

71 GMC Sierra Grande with a mid 80's SBC 350.
Can you tell me what these electrical parts are on my firewall?

I've unplugged them and don't see anything else not working but my tach has never worked. At least one of these parts (relay/voltage regulator/ac generator/unknown) looks pretty old.

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Old 05-16-2019, 02:39 PM   #2
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Re: What are these parts on my firewall?

The one on the left looks very much like the relay that was connected to the transmission spark advance on my '70 It had been disconnected from the trans for years. I finally took it off the firewall when I replaced the engine harness.
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Old 05-17-2019, 04:26 PM   #3
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Re: What are these parts on my firewall?

Both are spark control items. Many people remove them and the associated wiring. Won't affect anything. Look over the wiring diagrams on the forum to see what can be removed.
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Old 05-17-2019, 08:06 PM   #4
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Re: What are these parts on my firewall?

Yep, TSC THINGS THAT ARE NOT NEEDED. If you want you can also remove the sensor in the passenger side head. But drain the block first or you will be wearing coolant and swearing.
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Old 05-17-2019, 10:18 PM   #5
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Yep, TSC THINGS THAT ARE NOT NEEDED. If you want you can also remove the sensor in the passenger side head. But drain the block first or you will be wearing coolant and swearing.
I thought that the Transmission Controlled Spark Thermal Vacuum Switch was in the manifold just behind the thermostat housing, or in some cases, in the thermostat housing, and the temperature sensor for the gauge was in the passenger side head?
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Old 05-18-2019, 07:40 AM   #6
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Re: What are these parts on my firewall?

The TSC sensor is in the passenger side head and the factory temp gauge sender is in the drivers side head. There was some part of the TSC system in the manifold, but the coolant sensor it hooked to was in the head under the exhaust manifold.
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Old 05-18-2019, 01:15 PM   #7
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Re: What are these parts on my firewall?

TCS Relay and TCS Delay.
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Old 05-18-2019, 04:22 PM   #8
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Re: What are these parts on my firewall?

Thanks guys. I'll take those off.

Any ideas on my battery voltage gauge not working. Are there some typical parts to replace or places to start?
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Old 05-18-2019, 06:19 PM   #9
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Re: What are these parts on my firewall?

The factory battery gauge is an Ammeter gauge not a Voltage gauge. It reads charge/discharge arrangement so you will not see a reading like a volt style one reads. There is a member in Oregon who sells a conversion kit to make it into a volt reader.
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Look at your harness for the fuses for the charging system. It only takes one to be blown for the gauge to not indicate charge//discharge.
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Old 05-22-2019, 11:13 AM   #11
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Re: What are these parts on my firewall?

Steeveedee,
Are you referring to "inline" fuses along the wiring harness in the engine bay?
Not on the fuse block?

I replaced a few that I found years ago that were blown but I need to go see if I can find any others.
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Re: What are these parts on my firewall?

This is what you're looking for. There are two in the engine compartment near the front of the truck-- one on the right side near the battery, and one on the left side.

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Re: What are these parts on my firewall?

battery voltage gauge on all cars and trucks Leave them alone or disconnect them. seen more cars and trucks catch fire due to the Voltage gauge. There a fire just waiting to happen. Trust me If you're having a voltage problem you don't need a gauge to tell you your wipers will be slow your lights will be dim your starter will drag. If your not into car's or trucks by the time you get into these old trucks Best off stay with New car's and trucks.

In my 1960 and my 1966 bobtails, I drove while hauling trusses for new housing back in the 80's here in Calif My boss unplugged the voltage gauge wires to are gauges. I found out when I got my own 1965 3/4ton. Rules of driving these trucks Never drive an old truck with old wires connected to the Voltage gauge. If you like your classic car or truck I forewarn you Unplug or tape up the wires you don't need them.
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Old 05-22-2019, 07:18 PM   #14
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This is what you're looking for. There are two in the engine compartment near the front of the truck-- one on the right side near the battery, and one on the left side.

The fuse is for the side blinker for the 1971-72 chevy trucks It's not for the voltage gauge
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Old 05-22-2019, 07:19 PM   #15
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Re: What are these parts on my firewall?

I'm hoping to install something like this on the Rear side markers that don't blink while you making a right or left hand turn
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The fuse is for the side blinker for the 1971-72 chevy trucks It's not for the voltage gauge
My K20 has an ammeter, not a voltage gauge.... and it has the two 4A fuses for the ammeter. If either fuse fails, the ammeter won't work.

Reference this thread for more info & clarification, in particular post #2 and post #4 by VetteVet. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=714782
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Old 10-23-2021, 08:46 AM   #17
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Re: What are these parts on my firewall?

Old thread, yes I know, great info right here, love this forum and all the great members.
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