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phantom dually · 09-30-2003, 10:43 PM

Lets get a inside shot of the fender.

phantom dually · 09-30-2003, 10:46 PM

I also got a little done here. It will set the crossmember with 255 45 18 tires and wheels. The factory tire are 28.5 inches and the 18" will be 27" tall. This is a rough idea of what to expect. Measured a bit on the cab and will (should) set the rocker. maybe 1/2 inch tops!! YEAH BABY YEAH!!!!

phantom dually · 09-30-2003, 10:47 PM

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wdz28ss · 09-30-2003, 10:48 PM

dont make fun of the pic...still need to clean up the rough edges...it was getting late last night.

wdz28ss · 09-30-2003, 10:50 PM

oops..clicked the wrong button.

wdz28ss · 09-30-2003, 10:56 PM

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Originally posted by loweredd
one word------awesome. That is stunning wdz. Are you going to keep the wood look trim when you repaint?

The only thing i'm changing is wheels and the blue to copper or candy orange...still undecided for sure. But all trim and interior and the white (mabye shade) will remain as it did when new.

phantom dually · 09-30-2003, 10:58 PM

A little fender mods there to say the least!!!

Slammed67 · 09-30-2003, 11:34 PM

wdz28ss: Looking good! What are you going to do for hood hinges?

Phantom: Also looking good! How high (or low) is the bottom on the cross member compared to the bottom of the frame (at the straight part, like below the cab)?

wdz28ss · 09-30-2003, 11:40 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Slammed67
[B]wdz28ss: Looking good! What are you going to do for hood hinges?

This is a good question for now. I'm thinking of a way to fab something up. Also Turner is coming up with his own reverse flip kit. Now sure at this time but will be doing something with it soon. Anyone else have any ideas for hinges?

phantom dually · 10-01-2003, 06:06 PM

The crossmember seems to be about the same height as the frame. I think it may lay the frame?? I will see when I finish up the rear.

fastbagged68 · 10-01-2003, 07:49 PM

Phantom Dually- you might not lay frame. Not to put salt on your progress. Your frame looks good! When I assembled mine with my 2inch crossmember drop mine laid out. I set he rear frame at where my notch will be. the reason I dont think you will lay frame is because of your front bag mounts. I am cutting my crossmember up more so my bags won't rub. I'm using upper cups in the front and the out edge around the bag needs to be cut to get my frame down.
Look at my pics in the beggining of this post and look at where my lower control arms is in relation to yours.
You are moving along fast. My crossmember is sitting on my work bench waiting to get plasma more. Spending to much time on everyone else car.

phantom dually · 10-01-2003, 08:02 PM

Really if it dont lay frame Im not going to be upset. It will be really low and in reality I do not want to lay frame. I am building this truck for show and there is no reason to scrape the frame all up. Do you see a problem with the way the bag sits in?? Do you think I will possibly pop a bag from rubbing??

phantom dually · 10-01-2003, 08:16 PM

Also by cutting the bag mounts and moving the metal out of the way are you actually moving the upper mounting pad?? If I do this what would be the best way?? pics would be great!!

loweredd · 10-01-2003, 08:25 PM

phantom, I used bag mounts like on an S-10, or a new fullsize. It puts the top of the bag into the crossmember about 3/4 of an inch.

phantom dually · 10-01-2003, 08:30 PM

I have 2 sets of upper bag mounts. One set is from turners and the others from a fab shop in cali that closed down?? I will check them to see which ones are smaller.

loweredd · 10-01-2003, 08:33 PM

are you using cups, or a plate?

phantom dually · 10-01-2003, 08:38 PM

right now I have cups. I beleive a plate would not let the bag sit into the member enough?

loweredd · 10-01-2003, 08:46 PM

no, that's right.

fastbagged68 · 10-02-2003, 03:04 PM

Hey quick question- what about sway bar mounts on Bill Turners arms. I was checking mine out last night and was wonder if I should use the sway bar off my 67 El Camino. What are you guys doing?

fastbagged68 · 10-02-2003, 03:11 PM

Phantom have you aired up your front suspension yet? You should and see if it rubs anywhere. If that is a firestone bag they balloon out then up. Make sure it does not rub. If it touches when air down all the way it should be fine as long as it does not sit on sharp edges.

phantom dually · 10-03-2003, 10:29 PM

I am going to smooth the inside of the crossmember around where the bag mounts. It is pretty clean now but could use a few minutes of work. I have not aired it up yet. I am trying to get the rack setup with the stock tie rod ends. You have to do a little cutting on them to get the adjuster sleeves to fit in. I thought about running my airline out through the inside of the crossmember and then out the side of the frame. Is this a good idea??

wdz28ss · 10-03-2003, 11:58 PM

A few pics after tonight...Got together and sat on ground. Lays frame!!! actually lays on the rivets along bottom of frame. Looks like I need to do something in rear (about 3 more inches). Guess I'll be looking into "back halfing" it. The front crossmember is about 1/2" off ground laid out. probally be working on the rack tomorrow.

wdz28ss · 10-03-2003, 11:59 PM

another pic

wdz28ss · 10-04-2003, 12:01 AM

one more

09-30-2003, 10:43 PM	#126
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,793	Lets get a inside shot of the fender. __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448 Last edited by phantom dually; 09-30-2003 at 10:48 PM.

09-30-2003, 10:46 PM	#127
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,793	I also got a little done here. It will set the crossmember with 255 45 18 tires and wheels. The factory tire are 28.5 inches and the 18" will be 27" tall. This is a rough idea of what to expect. Measured a bit on the cab and will (should) set the rocker. maybe 1/2 inch tops!! YEAH BABY YEAH!!!! Attached Images

09-30-2003, 10:47 PM	#128
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,793	2 Attached Images

09-30-2003, 10:47 PM	#129
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,793	3 Attached Images

09-30-2003, 10:48 PM	#130
wdz28ss Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Clinton, Ut Posts: 230	dont make fun of the pic...still need to clean up the rough edges...it was getting late last night. __________________ '72 Cheyenne super, short-fleet, air-tilt-tach, fuel injected LT1, 700r4, 3.08 posi, 4WDB, step notched and bagged. "the one i wish i still had"

09-30-2003, 10:50 PM	#131
wdz28ss Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Clinton, Ut Posts: 230	oops..clicked the wrong button. Attached Images __________________ '72 Cheyenne super, short-fleet, air-tilt-tach, fuel injected LT1, 700r4, 3.08 posi, 4WDB, step notched and bagged. "the one i wish i still had"

09-30-2003, 10:58 PM	#133
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,793	A little fender mods there to say the least!!! __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

09-30-2003, 11:34 PM	#134
Slammed67 Progress = 0% Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 2,108	wdz28ss: Looking good! What are you going to do for hood hinges? Phantom: Also looking good! How high (or low) is the bottom on the cross member compared to the bottom of the frame (at the straight part, like below the cab)? __________________ Jason - '67 GMC swb \| '57 Bel-Air 4dr hardtop \| '56 210 4dr Wagon \| 2000 GMC Sierra

09-30-2003, 11:40 PM	#135
wdz28ss Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Clinton, Ut Posts: 230	[QUOTE]Originally posted by Slammed67 [B]wdz28ss: Looking good! What are you going to do for hood hinges? This is a good question for now. I'm thinking of a way to fab something up. Also Turner is coming up with his own reverse flip kit. Now sure at this time but will be doing something with it soon. Anyone else have any ideas for hinges? __________________ '72 Cheyenne super, short-fleet, air-tilt-tach, fuel injected LT1, 700r4, 3.08 posi, 4WDB, step notched and bagged. "the one i wish i still had"

10-01-2003, 06:06 PM	#136
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,793	The crossmember seems to be about the same height as the frame. I think it may lay the frame?? I will see when I finish up the rear. __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

10-01-2003, 07:49 PM	#137
fastbagged68 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tri Valley California Posts: 792	Phantom Dually- you might not lay frame. Not to put salt on your progress. Your frame looks good! When I assembled mine with my 2inch crossmember drop mine laid out. I set he rear frame at where my notch will be. the reason I dont think you will lay frame is because of your front bag mounts. I am cutting my crossmember up more so my bags won't rub. I'm using upper cups in the front and the out edge around the bag needs to be cut to get my frame down. Look at my pics in the beggining of this post and look at where my lower control arms is in relation to yours. You are moving along fast. My crossmember is sitting on my work bench waiting to get plasma more. Spending to much time on everyone else car.

10-01-2003, 08:02 PM	#138
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,793	Really if it dont lay frame Im not going to be upset. It will be really low and in reality I do not want to lay frame. I am building this truck for show and there is no reason to scrape the frame all up. Do you see a problem with the way the bag sits in?? Do you think I will possibly pop a bag from rubbing?? __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

10-01-2003, 08:16 PM	#139
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,793	Also by cutting the bag mounts and moving the metal out of the way are you actually moving the upper mounting pad?? If I do this what would be the best way?? pics would be great!! __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

10-01-2003, 08:25 PM	#140
loweredd www.loweredd.com Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Struble IA Posts: 808	phantom, I used bag mounts like on an S-10, or a new fullsize. It puts the top of the bag into the crossmember about 3/4 of an inch.

10-01-2003, 08:30 PM	#141
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,793	I have 2 sets of upper bag mounts. One set is from turners and the others from a fab shop in cali that closed down?? I will check them to see which ones are smaller. __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448



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10-01-2003, 08:33 PM	#142
loweredd www.loweredd.com Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Struble IA Posts: 808	are you using cups, or a plate?

10-01-2003, 08:38 PM	#143
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,793	right now I have cups. I beleive a plate would not let the bag sit into the member enough? __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

10-01-2003, 08:46 PM	#144
loweredd www.loweredd.com Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Struble IA Posts: 808	no, that's right.

10-02-2003, 03:04 PM	#145
fastbagged68 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tri Valley California Posts: 792	Hey quick question- what about sway bar mounts on Bill Turners arms. I was checking mine out last night and was wonder if I should use the sway bar off my 67 El Camino. What are you guys doing?

10-02-2003, 03:11 PM	#146
fastbagged68 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tri Valley California Posts: 792	Phantom have you aired up your front suspension yet? You should and see if it rubs anywhere. If that is a firestone bag they balloon out then up. Make sure it does not rub. If it touches when air down all the way it should be fine as long as it does not sit on sharp edges.

10-03-2003, 10:29 PM	#147
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,793	I am going to smooth the inside of the crossmember around where the bag mounts. It is pretty clean now but could use a few minutes of work. I have not aired it up yet. I am trying to get the rack setup with the stock tie rod ends. You have to do a little cutting on them to get the adjuster sleeves to fit in. I thought about running my airline out through the inside of the crossmember and then out the side of the frame. Is this a good idea??

10-03-2003, 11:58 PM	#148
wdz28ss Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Clinton, Ut Posts: 230	A few pics after tonight...Got together and sat on ground. Lays frame!!! actually lays on the rivets along bottom of frame. Looks like I need to do something in rear (about 3 more inches). Guess I'll be looking into "back halfing" it. The front crossmember is about 1/2" off ground laid out. probally be working on the rack tomorrow. Attached Images __________________ '72 Cheyenne super, short-fleet, air-tilt-tach, fuel injected LT1, 700r4, 3.08 posi, 4WDB, step notched and bagged. "the one i wish i still had"

10-03-2003, 11:59 PM	#149
wdz28ss Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Clinton, Ut Posts: 230	another pic Attached Images __________________ '72 Cheyenne super, short-fleet, air-tilt-tach, fuel injected LT1, 700r4, 3.08 posi, 4WDB, step notched and bagged. "the one i wish i still had"

10-04-2003, 12:01 AM	#150
wdz28ss Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Clinton, Ut Posts: 230	one more Attached Images __________________ '72 Cheyenne super, short-fleet, air-tilt-tach, fuel injected LT1, 700r4, 3.08 posi, 4WDB, step notched and bagged. "the one i wish i still had"

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