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BigTruckDriver · 05-20-2007, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MEANGREEN70

I'm with jlaird, I think they should be in the tank out port to the bags, just like your normal tool comp. I maybe wrong, but as long as you have air stored in the tanks is going to build moisture when you use it. Even if you put the trap between the comp and the tanks. Right.

If the air is dry to begin with when it goes into the tank how could it make any moisture?

SCOTI · 05-20-2007, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BigTruckDriver

If the air is dry to begin with when it goes into the tank how could it make any moisture?

How do you dry it effectively? I know you need to have a length of line long enough to allow the air to cool before it goes through the trap/filter & then into the tank. I also know that copper is typically whats used because of it's ability to dissapate heat.

W/o the length of line, the air is warm/hot. Once it cools in the tank, there will be moisture.

MEANGREEN70 · 05-21-2007, 09:03 PM

Wire bags today, but not working right. The rear airs up on the blink of an eye, the front barely moves. Do you guys have any ideal as to whats going on?

watahyahknow · 05-22-2007, 01:17 AM

thats a weight issue the engine weighs heaviewr on the bags you might want to restrict the flow to the rearbags a bit

MEANGREEN70 · 05-22-2007, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by watahyahknow

thats a weight issue the engine weighs heaviewr on the bags you might want to restrict the flow to the rearbags a bit

Thats what i was thinking, do you know of a way to restrict the air to the rear?

jimmydean · 05-22-2007, 10:17 AM

Depending on how you have it plumped, you can use flow restrictors like I had to do to slow the fill and dump rates of my 1/2 system.

I used these from SD for fill control.

[IMG]http://*****************/images/products/mid_1-2_PTC_Valve_Fill_Controls.jpg[/IMG]

<edit> They just go inline with the fill line. If you don't have a line to run it, they have one with NPT holes for a nipple or fitting.

MEANGREEN70 · 05-22-2007, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmydean

Depending on how you have it plumped, you can use flow restrictors like I had to do to slow the fill and dump rates of my 1/2 system.

I used these from SD for fill control.

[IMG]http://*****************/images/products/mid_1-2_PTC_Valve_Fill_Controls.jpg[/IMG]

<edit> They just go inline with the fill line. If you don't have a line to run it, they have one with NPT holes for a nipple or fitting.

Below is pics of how I plum my system, so I guess I need to get 2 of control valve. one per side.

MEANGREEN70 · 05-22-2007, 12:23 PM

one pic.

MEANGREEN70 · 05-22-2007, 08:18 PM

I installed two on and off valve for the rear, so the rear works fine now, I can regulate the air so it goes up and down really good. The front I still cant get no lift, I don't know if is the valve or bags. you can See the front trying to lift, but it doesn't. Does anybody have an idea as to why

. maybe I need different valve or bags.

bedsled71 · 05-22-2007, 08:32 PM

plug the line from the front to one of the rear valves to see if it still does it

PBFAB.COM · 05-22-2007, 08:47 PM

How much pressure is in the tanks? Sounds like there isn't quite enough to get it up.

MEANGREEN70 · 05-22-2007, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bedsled71

plug the line from the front to one of the rear valves to see if it still does it

Are taking about moving the front line to the rear, and see if it act the same way?

MEANGREEN70 · 05-22-2007, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by porterbuilt

How much pressure is in the tanks? Sounds like there isn't quite enough to get it up.

I dont know how much pressure is in the tanks, I dont have a gauge hook on yet, I was just trying to get the system plym to see how it would work. I guess I do need to get some kind of gauge. Nathan do you know what the pressure should be at the tanks? I'm useing two 3 gal tanks. Can you tell I'm new to all this, but I'm learnig as I go.

ps. I still love my dropmenber. thanks

bedsled71 · 05-22-2007, 11:59 PM

it takes alot more to psi to lift the front..so thats probably the deal

BigTruckDriver · 05-23-2007, 12:12 AM

maybe a smaller valve in your rear will force more air to supply the front?

PBFAB.COM · 05-23-2007, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MEANGREEN70

I dont know how much pressure is in the tanks, I dont have a gauge hook on yet, I was just trying to get the system plym to see how it would work. I guess I do need to get some kind of gauge. Nathan do you know what the pressure should be at the tanks? I'm useing two 3 gal tanks. Can you tell I'm new to all this, but I'm learnig as I go.

ps. I still love my dropmenber. thanks

150psi. is the minimum pressure switch I would run. It is going to take all of it to pop that front end up with that BBC hunkered in there. What is your pressure switch rated at? 150psi. should do fine, but you can get an adjustable one for fine tuning.

I think it's just a pressure issue.

MEANGREEN70 · 05-23-2007, 07:38 PM

You guys were right, it was a pressure issue, I finally got the front end to lift.
The comp that came with the kit I bought maybe a 1or2, are not that great. It takes to long to fill the tanks, so I'm going to have to look for a different comp.

SCOTI · 05-23-2007, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MEANGREEN70

.... The comp that came with the kit I bought maybe a 1or2, are not that great. It takes to long to fill the tanks, so I'm going to have to look for a different comp.

Errrr. . . ..... make that 2 compressors.

MEANGREEN70 · 06-16-2007, 08:53 PM

I finally found a front clip, so is time to go back to work.

SCOTI · 06-16-2007, 09:37 PM

Ohoooo, looks very straight. Where did you find it?

babyblueoval · 06-16-2007, 09:47 PM

Nice!

I just happened picked up a '68 front end last weekend. I'm not sure mines quite as nice as yours but it's close.

I can't wait to start on my Blazer.

MEANGREEN70 · 06-19-2007, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SCOTI

Ohoooo, looks very straight. Where did you find it?

I took a road trip down to Austin.

randomhero472 · 06-19-2007, 01:57 PM

go w/the viar 380's for compressors, you can get 2 on ebay for under 300 shipped

MEANGREEN70 · 06-19-2007, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by randomhero472

go w/the viar 380's for compressors, you can get 2 on ebay for under 300 shipped

I was thinging 2 480 viar, are they pretty good?

SCOTI · 06-19-2007, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MEANGREEN70

I was thinging 2 480 viar, are they pretty good?

Since most are using the 380's I would say the 480's would work just as well. Got that front clip in place yet?

05-21-2007, 09:03 PM	#128
MEANGREEN70 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SACHSE,TX Posts: 132	Re: Xmas In March, Thanks To Porterbuilt. Wire bags today, but not working right. The rear airs up on the blink of an eye, the front barely moves. Do you guys have any ideal as to whats going on?

05-22-2007, 01:17 AM	#129
watahyahknow Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: the netherlands europe Posts: 4,335	Re: Xmas In March, Thanks To Porterbuilt. thats a weight issue the engine weighs heaviewr on the bags you might want to restrict the flow to the rearbags a bit __________________ i got a job again and having fun at it too idea's for the trucks and the order of things to do are taking shape and get closer to being realized , a few more months and i be able to start building for real i complete 2 of the trucks intoo running fashion one custom and one basicly stock the thirth will be sacrificed for parts

05-22-2007, 10:17 AM	#131
jimmydean Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Beaverton, OR Posts: 3,728	Re: Xmas In March, Thanks To Porterbuilt. Depending on how you have it plumped, you can use flow restrictors like I had to do to slow the fill and dump rates of my 1/2 system. I used these from SD for fill control. [IMG]http://****************/images/products/mid_1-2_PTC_Valve_Fill_Controls.jpg[/IMG] <edit> They just go inline with the fill line. If you don't have a line to run it, they have one with NPT holes for a nipple or fitting. __________________ New Project: 1966 LWB C20 Plans: 1/2 ton conversion Dropmember front Dropmember rear Corvette discs Restored raised bed http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php?p=4295210 Last edited by jimmydean; 05-22-2007 at 10:19 AM.*

05-22-2007, 12:23 PM	#133
MEANGREEN70 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SACHSE,TX Posts: 132	Re: Xmas In March, Thanks To Porterbuilt. one pic. Attached Images Last edited by MEANGREEN70; 05-22-2007 at 12:24 PM.

05-22-2007, 08:18 PM	#134
MEANGREEN70 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SACHSE,TX Posts: 132	Re: Xmas In March, Thanks To Porterbuilt. I installed two on and off valve for the rear, so the rear works fine now, I can regulate the air so it goes up and down really good. The front I still cant get no lift, I don't know if is the valve or bags. you can See the front trying to lift, but it doesn't. Does anybody have an idea as to why . maybe I need different valve or bags.

05-22-2007, 08:32 PM	#135
bedsled71 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: yuma arizona Posts: 448	Re: Xmas In March, Thanks To Porterbuilt. plug the line from the front to one of the rear valves to see if it still does it

05-22-2007, 08:47 PM	#136
PBFAB.COM Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Mesa,Az Posts: 3,981	Re: Xmas In March, Thanks To Porterbuilt. How much pressure is in the tanks? Sounds like there isn't quite enough to get it up. __________________ www.PorterbuiltFabrication.com Phone: 480-297-2621 E-mail: sales@pbfab.com Find us on FaceBook under Porterbuilt Fabrication Specializing in Chassis and Suspension Components for your Classic Chevrolet Truck. We offer components from the following manufacturers: Porterbuilt Accuair Ridetech (Air Ride Technologies) Air Lift Wilwood Intro Unisteer ECE Gotta Show Air Lift Borgeson CPP Supporting this forum since 2003!

05-22-2007, 11:59 PM	#139
bedsled71 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: yuma arizona Posts: 448	Re: Xmas In March, Thanks To Porterbuilt. it takes alot more to psi to lift the front..so thats probably the deal

05-23-2007, 12:12 AM	#140
BigTruckDriver Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Dallas Posts: 156	Re: Xmas In March, Thanks To Porterbuilt. maybe a smaller valve in your rear will force more air to supply the front?

05-23-2007, 07:38 PM	#142
MEANGREEN70 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SACHSE,TX Posts: 132	Re: Xmas In March, Thanks To Porterbuilt. You guys were right, it was a pressure issue, I finally got the front end to lift. The comp that came with the kit I bought maybe a 1or2, are not that great. It takes to long to fill the tanks, so I'm going to have to look for a different comp.

06-16-2007, 08:53 PM	#144
MEANGREEN70 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SACHSE,TX Posts: 132	Re: Xmas In March, Thanks To Porterbuilt. I finally found a front clip, so is time to go back to work. Attached Images

06-16-2007, 09:37 PM	#145
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 21,915	Re: Xmas In March, Thanks To Porterbuilt. Ohoooo, looks very straight. Where did you find it? __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

06-16-2007, 09:47 PM	#146
babyblueoval Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 835	Re: Xmas In March, Thanks To Porterbuilt. Nice! I just happened picked up a '68 front end last weekend. I'm not sure mines quite as nice as yours but it's close. I can't wait to start on my Blazer. __________________ Jim '71 Blazer-Porterbuilt Dropmember C4/LS1/6L80E '57 VW beetle - Oct. 2006 Hot VW's pg. 87 - 350hp intercooled, turbocharged, EFI 2.3liter and 5spd in the works '87 BMW 325i - daily driver

06-19-2007, 01:57 PM	#148
randomhero472 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: oklahoma Posts: 516	Re: Xmas In March, Thanks To Porterbuilt. go w/the viar 380's for compressors, you can get 2 on ebay for under 300 shipped __________________ 67' in the "build" process.. soon to be bagged, big wheels ect, finally got it back home!!



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