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Old 05-04-2012, 03:25 PM   #1
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Exclamation Shipping NOS (or rare) Parts,... the Correct Way! (southern parts)

I just wanted to post up the "correct" way to ship parts.
So many rare or NOS parts are being sold these days for very high prices.
Besides the fact that you put down your hard earned money for these items,...
the real problem lies in getting these parts shipped without damage.

UPS and FedEx seems to be able to destroy just about anything.
Sometimes USPS is even worse.
Last year I had some very nice pieces destroyed during shipping.

Recently I purchased a NOS 69-70 inner grille from member southern parts.
I don't know whether member southern parts,... or uncle packed it up for shipping,... but this is the way to do it!

Members that ship all the time, know what I'm talking about.
Other "buying members" need to take note when someone quotes you a shipping cost related to the parts they are selling.

I also wanted to thank member southern parts for a very smooth transaction!
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Old 05-04-2012, 03:48 PM   #2
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Re: Shipping NOS (or rare) Parts,... the Correct Way!

Nice job, I too know what you by shipping parts that need to be able to survive the kicking, I mean shipping process.
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Re: Shipping NOS (or rare) Parts,... the Correct Way!

Very nice packing.
I always appreciate the time spent to package stuff up well.

Nothing worse than waiting for parts you spent good money on & then they show up damaged and look like UPS ran them over with a forklift.
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nicely done!
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Wow, that is a nice job. I am getting ready to ship 2 outters and an inner, and this gave me some good ideas! Thanks!
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Re: Shipping NOS (or rare) Parts,... the Correct Way!

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Very nice packing.
I always appreciate the time spent to package stuff up well.

Nothing worse than waiting for parts you spent good money on & then they show up damaged and look like UPS ran them over with a forklift.
Quality packaging usually means more money for the buyer.
(because the dimensions are bigger and the box weighs more)

I had a NOS 73-87 style tailgate shipped from the east coast years ago.
It was wrapped in 1 layer of thin cardboard, and a total of about 4' of tape.
It arrived with a big dent in it.

Most don't understand the "insurance" deal either.
According to UPS,... if it's not packaged to "UPS Standards",... they don't pay on damaged items.
You gotta read or know what's in the fine print.
That's not something they advertise.
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Old 05-04-2012, 03:57 PM   #7
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Wow, that is a nice job. I am getting ready to ship 2 outters and an inner, and this gave me some good ideas! Thanks!
You wouldn't believe how long it took me to get down to the oem box! Ha.
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Re: Shipping NOS (or rare) Parts,... the Correct Way!

Wow, now that's taking pride in your work!
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Re: Shipping NOS (or rare) Parts,... the Correct Way!

i`d like to take credit for packing, but the truth is that i never saw the grill. All i did was post the listing
Tim (uncle)did packed it and shipped it.
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Old 05-05-2012, 07:38 AM   #10
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Re: Shipping NOS (or rare) Parts,... the Correct Way!

Oops! Looks like this got moved when it wasn't a specific review,just using one member's packaging as an example.

I pride myself in my packaging.,because I care that the item arrives in the condition it left in after I'm paid. Think that way and you'll find it easy to come up with safe packing. Of course,you have to figure the best way without adding a ton of weight which adds shipping cost or puts it out of the parcel delivery class. I often build a light weight crate. The object is to make the package rigid. I always wrap with cardboard so the handlers don't think of it as indestructible,cuz you know they'll put it to the stress test.
I sent thelonerife a dash pad recently. I took a 1x6 of cedar (from a busted door I dismantled. The third objective...keep it inexpensive if possible) and wrapped the pad to it for rigidity after rolling it in bubble wrap (saved from parts I bought). Then,I took heavy heavy cardboard I also had saved,scored it to make bends,and stapled it to the board creating a triangle with folded end flaps. I package taped the ends and seems to cover the staples. I put a picture below. 1/4" Luan mahogany plywood and firring strips are light and cheap and can make a rigid mini-crate. I also use empty water/soda bottles with the cap on for packing. They make a strong and light way to cushion and fill voids.
Here's how Sharpie72 packaged a pristine '72 GMC front fender he shipped me:

Here's the dash pad I shipped.I think it cost about $12-13 to ship USPS parcel post insured,which was about the same as their little old medium flat rate box.
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Re: Shipping NOS (or rare) Parts,... the Correct Way!

And I'm still driving around town with that board in the back of my colorado. just in case
i change my mind on the color lol.
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Old 05-06-2012, 06:13 PM   #12
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Re: Shipping NOS (or rare) Parts,... the Correct Way!

Great subject Keith and I agree that Uncle Tim’s work is awesome!
Clean design…strong, safe and light!


...and I sure could use some of those Sharpie72 crates! Nice job!












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Old 05-07-2012, 07:16 AM   #13
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Re: Shipping NOS (or rare) Parts,... the Correct Way!

My dog lives in that crate Sharpie sent the fender in! (J/K,I don't have a dog right now )

I sent Old Rusty C10 an '80s dash insert in a 4" plastic conduit (wrapped in bubble wrap) with bottom 1/2s of soda bottles stuffed in the ends. They were a perfect tight fit,then I used duct tape to make a smooth and flush end. The thing was rigid,light,and didn't cost much to ship. All the materials I had laying around...free!

For the most part,every part I have ever bought from members in the parts board have been packed with care. I don't recall ever receiving a damaged part. And,I've bought quite a lot
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I just sent Rene some 67/68 side trim. I just gave it to him,so it wasn't about the money or being liable,etc. Just matter of why offer someone something only to have it arrive ruined? I didn't want to put a bunch of money into shipping something that was free. I took some 1/2" plywood scraps to make a rectangle frame with a pair of struts across the narrow dimension on each side. I taped the trim and used thick cardboard folded to hold the trim in place. Then,I covered the frame in heavy cardboard I saved from a large part I bought not long ago. He was happy to receive the trim in good condition,so was I,and that's it.

Now today,I have a '67 GMC SWB project I'm building on a budget using all OEM parts. I'm using old interior parts until I can paint and upholster some day down the road,if budget ever allows. My interior is red: buddy buckets,CST door panels,seat belts,car steering wheel,'67 GMC glovebox door...all red. The final piece I just bought last week and it arrived today. It was cheap enough at $20 shipped,a red GMC gauge bezel. I was all excited to have this patina'd bezel trimming my rebuilt panel w/Camaro tach and air gauge. I took it from the mailman's hand and immediately heard something loose floating around in there. It was shipped in two flat rate boxes taped together end for end and was just enough to cover the bezel...no packing what so ever.Just a box against 40+ year old plastic,and one of the upper corners was busted off. It's in the trash now,not 5 minutes after it showed up...bummer. All the guy had to do was take a little care to assure the part arrived as sent. That's what this thread is about
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Re: Shipping NOS (or rare) Parts,... the Correct Way!

This is exactly what happens when stuff is not packaged properly. If it were packaged properly, the shipping cost alone would have been $20 or more.
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Re: Shipping NOS (or rare) Parts,... the Correct Way!

I agree with you Tim.
But how do you negoiate this on the board?

Example:
You buy a part.
The seller tells you the price with shipping.
How do YOU, the buyer,... tell him how to package it?
I try to be nice and explain how I would like it packaged.
Doesn't always happen.

Do you say,... "I'll take it,... IF,... you can package it to prevent damage".

I bought a pair of drop spindles recently, from a great board member and excellent communicator.
He told me $20 to ship.
They ended up costing $29.95 EACH from USPS and the boxes were destroyed when they got here.
The shear weight of the spindles beat the boxes to death on a 2 week trip from CA to MO.
Luckily the spindles arrived with just scratches.

How do you tell a seller that your dash bezel should be wrapped in 4" of bubble wrap inside a heavy card board box?

You are at his mercy, when you send your cash.
Looks like you lost out this time.
It's a shame.
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Yeah,all I can do is assume it will be done right,as I would. That thing was light enough that a little bubble wrap (1 layer) or just waded newspaper wouldn't affect the cost. I even use empty water bottles with the cap on. They're free,virtually weightless,and crush proof. It was a crappy part that happened to be just what I (and probably just I) needed. It was marginal with no damage and I'm sure it could be shipped for about $15,if not less. I wouldn't pay more than $5 at a swap meet. Those USPS boxes might be free,but they are cheap cardboard. You can grab it anywhere and rip it apart. I mange to ship parts in crates or packages that are stronger than needed with minimal expense...both in materials and shipping cost. I don't buy packing materials. All it takes is some thought.
I sent him a message that it arrived,was damaged,thrown away,I was extremely disappointed,and that it takes more to protect 40+ year old plastic. It's up to his conscience what he does. I'd refund the money,but that's me.
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Re: Shipping NOS (or rare) Parts,... the Correct Way!

I agree.
New items can be replaced.
But "one of a kind" old parts, or NOS items can be impossible to find.
And when you do,... it really sucks to have it damaged in shipping.
FedEx does really well in my area.
But USPS and UPS have a terrible track record with me.

Unless you buy and sell all the time,... you don't realize how crappy of "shipping service" you are getting,... for the premium price you are paying.
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The seller offered to file a claim with USPS,but I said not to bother. He said his new one came in a crappier box,probably from China,and was fine. Sounds like copping out to me. I've never seen a crappier box. Part may be made in China,but they aren't sold and shipped individually from there (gimme break) . The part he got was new,not 40+ years of heat and UV. If people just cared what happened (or gave it some thought) once an item leaves their hands this type of thing would only happen in extreme cases. This was routine damage you can expect when providing no protection at all.

This is really not a big deal,in this case. The point was to make an example of what you shouldn't do and the attitude you shouldn't have. What if this was a rare and valuable part?
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I dont bother to respond to want to buy adds anymore as when I package something I intend on it being in one piece when it gets there and the shipping kills the deal .I just collect parts and hang them in my shop in case I find another project but I could have a killer yard sale .
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I would say most of the time people just want to "file a claim" and push it on the shipper. Most of the time you will lose. People don't realize if it isn't packaged properly you won't get a claim. I think it is 2" minimum around whatever you are shipping.
Side note: I shiped some windshield trim to CA. Showed up damaged and you could see the footprint on the box! Claim denied because it was a used box!
I would rather lose a couple bucks on shipping than deal with a headache later...
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I would say most of the time people just want to "file a claim" and push it on the shipper. Most of the time you will lose. People don't realize if it isn't packaged properly you won't get a claim. I think it is 2" minimum aroud whatever you are shipping.
Side note: I shiped some windshield trim to CA. Showed up damaged and you could see the footprint on the box! Claim denied because it was a used box!
I would rather lose a couple bucks on shipping than deal with a headache later...
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Good point,Eric,that I failed to mention. I told the guy not to bother with a claim since it was only $20...not that $20 means nothing to my poor a...nyway. I know the P.O. would deny the claim based on improper packaging and rightly so in this case
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I just cringe when I have delicate nos parts shipped. I had bought a nos upper box moulding off eBay and the shipping charge was like $25 for the one 6.5 ft box moulding. The guy said it would be well packaged and insured and I told him to forget the insurance and just buy a 2" pvc tube from Mennards and packing tape the ends up. It shows up bent like a hockey stick and only wrapped in bubble wrap. He said no worry he had insured it with the PO because he didnt have time going to get a tube etc. Post Office dennied the claim stating it was doomed from the start with improper packaging. I was out my $125 and eBay tried to get me to return it to the sender on my dime after I had taken it to the PO for the inspection. Never got one cent back from the guy and he disappeared off eBay. Hopefully eBay has a better policy today than when that happened.
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I probably shouldnt say this but over the years I have bought a ton of stuff on the board and so far I havent had any damage. I have had few things rattling around in boxes a few times but luckily no damage.

I bought a grill from a fella for an old Buick (40's) and when I finally got down to the grill with all the other stuff taken out, the grill was wrapped in a nice wool blanket ... I still have it (the blanket, I sold the grill) =)
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