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Old 07-24-2011, 02:48 PM   #1
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Re: 8-9 seater shortbed

Don't be sorry, all good Ideas have to come from somewhere. It's good to hear what other people are thinking! :-)
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Old 07-25-2011, 11:06 PM   #2
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here's some pictures of what I did today! I took the axle out from under the suburban, and I did get it set under the xcab but it got too dark to take a good photo. Broke the u bolts in the process, so off to the store to buy some new ones tomorrow! I twisted them in half because half of the bolt was missing from rusting away. Kinda makes me wonder about my other trucks. :-/
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Old 07-25-2011, 11:14 PM   #3
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Re: 8-9 seater shortbed

up until now, I could have scraped the whole project and just kept my burb. with the rear end under the xcab it feels like I've past the point of very difficult to return. when I get the suburban cut in half. I'll be at no return! LOL
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Old 07-25-2011, 11:17 PM   #4
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Re: 8-9 seater shortbed

Just build one of these...




I actually saw this thing driving around here in town a couple times years ago.
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Old 07-27-2011, 10:11 PM   #5
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I actually saw this thing driving around here in town a couple times years ago.
Wow, actually I thought about that, and then I thought....that poor 4.3


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I saw a very well done 4-door dully, the back interior wall of the cab was removed then the bed was permanently enclosed as a limo.

I know I like my raised fiberglass shell. The top of the shell is level. I would like a Suburban with a raised roof just behind the front passenger, so I could still put my motorcycle in it.

I mentioned to Chip Foose about creating a motorcycle ramp, using a 12" wide down the center of the bed floor metal, using the indent of the license plate. Slide it out and run my bike into the bed.

We don't have much room on the property to store an extra truck for projects.... The land here is leased by the inch!!
CHIP FOOSE! He's like my inspiration for this project. for about a week strait me and my boys would watch overhaulin just dreamin as we watched!

It's great having 3 acres out here in Missouri. Can't imagine being so close to neighbors that I'd have to be quiet after dark

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think they got thick enough step bars? haha
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Looks like a cool project!
Thanks, I haven't had this much fun since I was 17 pulling my first '69 apart!
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i hope that chain hoist it attached to a strong tree i'm gonna watch this one
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Old 07-28-2011, 01:39 AM   #7
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i hope that chain hoist it attached to a strong tree i'm gonna watch this one
Step one atatch chain to tree. Step two lift entire pickup off trailer caus it didn't come with an axle, and I'm too cheap to buy a tripod. If that holds everything else is a piece of cake! ;-)
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kind of a pipe dream really Idon't have the tools to do it. but I've been looking for a way to make my truck a weekend camper, but still be fuctional.
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Re: 8-9 seater shortbed

I saw a very well done 4-door dully, the back interior wall of the cab was removed then the bed was permanently enclosed as a limo.

I know I like my raised fiberglass shell. The top of the shell is level. I would like a Suburban with a raised roof just behind the front passenger, so I could still put my motorcycle in it.

I mentioned to Chip Foose about creating a motorcycle ramp, using a 12" wide down the center of the bed floor metal, using the indent of the license plate. Slide it out and run my bike into the bed.

We don't have much room on the property to store an extra truck for projects.... The land here is leased by the inch!!
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Looks like a cool project!
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today I took the gas tank out and prepared to temp mount it in the back of the bed, until I can decide if I want to clean out the pickup tank which should be only 21 gals, or mount it where the spare tire goes, and relocate the spare. I think the sub tank is 40 gal and I don't have to worry about the fuel pressure being wrong, or fuel gauge sender being off a little. I don't know any ideas guys?
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today I took the gas tank out and prepared to temp mount it in the back of the bed, until I can decide if I want to clean out the pickup tank which should be only 21 gals, or mount it where the spare tire goes, and relocate the spare. I think the sub tank is 40 gal and I don't have to worry about the fuel pressure being wrong, or fuel gauge sender being off a little. I don't know any ideas guys?
( "I don't know any ideas guys?" ).......

What is the law in your state say about relocating the fuel tank between the rear axle & the bumper?

Insurance problem if you get hit with damage in the rear?

Stick with the Suburban set-up... I like the bigger tank.

I was told, for an option gas tank size, the filler tube is shortened to allow for a higher level in stock "looking" tanks.

I was supposed to have the option 34 gal tank, but the dealer/manufacturer forgot to shorten the tube. It's only 29 gal. (Window sticker says 34)

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What is the law in your state say about relocating the fuel tank between the rear axle & the bumper?

Insurance problem if you get hit with damage in the rear?
The Suburban tank is mounted between the rear axle and bumper, so I don't know why it would be a legal or insurance issue. He's using the front of the Suburban, so the truck will have the Suburban VIN and therefore technically still be a Suburban. If you look at it that way, the tank would be in the stock location.
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Oh, OK.... I never looked closely at a Suburban..... (underneath)
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If you see a Suburban without a hitch receiver, you can easily see the tank hanging down.



2 door Tahoes/Yukons had the fuel tank in the same location as well, but 4 door Tahoes/Yukons had the tank inside the left frame rail like the pickups.
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Ok, so two nights in a row I've started to take the rear heat a/c out and I still can't seem to get it out. Makes me wonder how expensive it is to get new hoses made, as I will proba ly have to do that a ywau and I am awful anxious to get this burb in half. I even bought a new tool today that was almost useless. Will try again tomorrow.
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So, my decision was made for me tonight.... As I was gingerly trying to disconnect the rear air.....snap....psssst. oh well, I did check on makeing new hoses today. The guy at the parts store was so dificult to talk to. I know the price of making a hose depends on the lenth diameter and style of connector, but just give me an idea here. Are we talkin 5 bucks or a hundred and 5 bucks......

Well, regardless the suburban body is cut apart now. Tomorrow after work I cut the frame, and then we separate. The Suburban, not me and my wife. got done too late to take pictures tonight.
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Maybe find a replacement A/C line at a junk yard?
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Maybe find a replacement A/C line at a junk yard?
The problem is; one finding one in a salvage yard that is in better conition than mine and not breaking it in two, and two I think it's going to need to be shorter now that the cab will be shorter. I still have not figured out where I'm gonna put it, I just know it'd be nice to have since it's Available.
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Tha idea of rear ac maybe be overkill & jus addin more headache to what you have already going on. I'm sure tha front will be more than up to tha job..
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Tha idea of rear ac maybe be overkill & jus addin more headache to what you have already going on. I'm sure tha front will be more than up to tha job..
maybe so, however, I can't run either now. since it works off the same compressor, and the lines are different Iwould either have to reconfigure with new hoses and possibly a new compressor (not sure about compressor) or...Make new hoses to the back and find a location for the unit.

So it seems to me that it's going to be a headache either way. but it will be worth it when it's done
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maybe so, however, I can't run either now. since it works off the same compressor, and the lines are different Iwould either have to reconfigure with new hoses and possibly a new compressor (not sure about compressor) or...Make new hoses to the back and find a location for the unit.

So it seems to me that it's going to be a headache either way. but it will be worth it when it's done
if your anything like me it would have to have rear air, even in my parents mini van i it makes a difference more or less this big thing
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Separated the suburban today. I am now at the point of no return!
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Here are some more pictures, I took the trailer Axle and put it under the sub. It was wide enough to put outside the body as seen in the pictures. Problem was it was too wide (by about an inch and a half) to get into the garage door. so I cut it down and put a pipe inside the axle. Now I have an adjustable axle that comes apart! Later, I think I may use it to put under the rear half of the old suburban and move it around that way. this time it won't be way out in left field.
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And it's quitting time for the day. Exhausted, and wet. It was like 104 today I think. Felt hotter.
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