Chevrolet or Pontiac?

[72c20customcamper]

Problem is they are all nice . GM Ford Chrysler and the independents. I have a 66 SS Chevelle but I would love to have this

[71CHEVYSHORTBED402]

Originally Posted by HO455

The Humbler!

https://youtu.be/7JNj9sEdPF0

I was surprised to learn the other day the 160 MPH speedometers in Firebirds weren't by accident. My buddy's mom had one, I don't know if I he buried it but what a rocket.

[special-K]

Originally Posted by Leonard60

I owned a 1971 Pontiac Acadian and a 1973 Pontiac Ventura I was alway under the understanding that they were the nova competition. Acadian had a Chevy inline 6 and the Ventura had a big block 350 (Pontiac motor) I changed it out for a 455 out of another Pontiac from the wrecker. And I thought Buick built a competition I think it may have been a skylark?? Correct me if in wrong.

Originally Posted by Indian113

The. Buick " NOVA" was called Apollo and Oldsmobile had one called Omega.

I was talking about '67 Novas. No Buick, Olds, or Pontiac version existed. Canadian models were a different animal. They only offered one GM line, period.

My favorite dream Chevy muscle car:

[KW5413]

Gotta go with Poncho. Had a '65 GTO in high school. Great memories in that car.

Rescued a '78 Trans Am. Still regret selling that one off.

Just sold the '76 "T'' top Cutlass and the '70 Nova SS last year. Miss them all. Even the '72 El Camino. I only had it for three months.

As much as I miss the Nova...the T/A is my most regrettable parting.

[71CHEVYSHORTBED402]

Question for passenger car guys. A little research for approx. 70-72 Firebirds seems show 160 MPH speedometers were common or stock, while Camaro, Chevelle & GTO varied 120 MPH to maybe 150. I imagine SS would carry 160, not sure of any of it.

Did Firebirds have more top speed? Some guys claim to have buried them

[Sheepdip]

I like em both. This was my 67 400 Firebird that I completely re-did and converted it to a Ram Air Clone, right down to the almost doesn't exist NOS air induction sheet metal/air cleaner.
Sold it to a pure Pontiac man who had a boat load of Pontiacs but no Firebird till he bought mine.

[davischevy]

The better half and I went on our honeymoon in this Chevelle a little over fifty years ago.

[Steeveedee]

Toss-up. I've had a

'64 Malibu SS 283 with a PG, and most options.
'64 Impala convertible- SHP327, close-ratio 4 speed, 3.90 posi, radio, tach, rear seat speaker, that is all.
'65 Malibu 2DHT that I put a 327 and THM 350 in. It would do 140
'65 GTO 2D post 389 4 speed 4.33 gears. Yup, that was fun!
'65 Tempest convertible with a 326.
'66 LeMans 2D post that got an RAIII 400. I blew that up in the Nevada desert at about 143 MPH, in '75 when the national speed limit was 55.
'68 Skylark California GS that I put a 305 Chevy with a 700 (4R). Kind of quick, got 18+ MPG commuting to work in rush hour traffic
'69 Camaro RS with a 327 and a 4 speed. Pegged it in Nevada on the way to Navy "A" school in Illinois in '73, and on the way back, in Texas.
'72 Le Mans Custom with a 2-barrel 400
'69 Nova with a 250 cu in 6 and a PG. I put AC and power disc brakes in it.

Not in sequential order. At this time in my life, I'd like to have that Nova back. We only sold it because we had 2 kids by then, and the wife didn't like straining her back getting them into their car seats in the back seat. It would be a perfect in-town car, these days. Have you seen the prices on any of these old cars? Mecum is ruining the old car market. There isn't a one of those that I sold for more than $2k.

[special-K]

Yeah, I only had a few, '63 283 Nova (w/my 327), '65 GTO, '68 442, and '63 Riviera. All 4spds except the Rivvy. Sold all for $3,000 or less, thinking "I can always get another"

IF I was a rich collector, I would embark upon gathering a list of favorite Pontiac performance cars. I think if I could only have one super collectible it would be a '61 Ventura SD



I sure do love the '63 Grand Prix, like a grown up '65 GTO. This one is 389 tri-power 4spd posi


The little old '64 GTO is on the list

[Palf70Step]

I have never been a huge follower of the Camaro or Firebird. Of the two, I prefer the 'bird. To me the Chevelle/Lemans/GTO were much better options and again the Pontiacs were my preference. Now that I am "mature" (OLD), I prefer to do the trucks.

[A1971Blazer]

My brother had that same exact '70 SS396..I wanted that car but he sold it to someone else while he was away at school.
I had a '69 GTO that I bought for $1000.00 in 1979...400...4 speed...factory air...wish I still had that one

[yuccales]

Always been a bowtie guy. I did have this '71 Bonneville. Only Pontiac I've owned. Darn good car. That 455 was hard on the back tires however!

[KW5413]

Originally Posted by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402

Question for passenger car guys. A little research for approx. 70-72 Firebirds seems show 160 MPH speedometers were common or stock, while Camaro, Chevelle & GTO varied 120 MPH to maybe 150. I imagine SS would carry 160, not sure of any of it.

Did Firebirds have more top speed? Some guys claim to have buried them

Not sure about the early '70s but, the '78 T/A H.P. had to be dumbed-down because it smoked the lethargic Corvette...and Chevy boys wouldn't have it. Mine was bone stock engine & drive train. I was amazed at how quick it was. Especially off the line.

It would be cool if GM would bring back the T/A...on a Corvette platform this time.

[72c20customcamper]

I've pretty much had all of them . Working in a body shop from 75 to 86 had lots of opportunities to buy damaged cars . The one I should have kept was a 69 Firebird convertible 400 with a 3 speed . But I did keep the Chevelle .

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by special-K

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I know the guy that owns this one.

Originally Posted by special-K

I sure do love the '63 Grand Prix, like a grown up '65 GTO. This one is 389 tri-power 4spd posi

Big bro and little bro.

Mine is a 389 auto (THM400) with a four bbl. I have a tri power sitting on the shelf waiting to be installed.

K

[special-K]

I love seeing your pictures of that perfect pair

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by special-K

I love seeing your pictures of that perfect pair

Heh heh. Your wish is my command.

K

[71CHEVYSHORTBED402]

Originally Posted by KW5413

Not sure about the early '70s but, the '78 T/A H.P. had to be dumbed-down because it smoked the lethargic Corvette...and Chevy boys wouldn't have it. Mine was bone stock engine & drive train. I was amazed at how quick it was. Especially off the line.

It would be cool if GM would bring back the T/A...on a Corvette platform this time.

My mom had a 79 Silver Anniversary for many years, she LOVED that car. It flew, no doubt about it, but my 100+ MPH days were behind me. It had a 403 "Buick" engine. It had been stolen, so my step-dad in the auto body business ended up with it. It was like brand new when my mom got it, though it wasn't even a year old yet. I'd think there would be a BIG market for a TA like you say.

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

Heh heh. Your wish is my command.

K

I don't see any engine bays or interiors?

[special-K]

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

Heh heh. Your wish is my command.

K

Sure do appreciate it. Although I'll never see it that way. It pleases me to know you enjoy sharing and I am but a mere admirer . Another perfect pair I always wished I had is a '55 Chevy Nomad and pickup



Although these days I'd like to have a '55 GMC Suburban Carrier and a Pontiac Safari wagon, both with 347s

[71CHEVYSHORTBED402]

But Pontiac never made one of these though. Some Nova guys call these cream of the crop. My friend has one (not pictured), his exterior is beautiful stock but the rest is modified for speed, comfort and electrical components.

Agree on Camaros Tim, some are really beautiful. Even the name is smooth.

[67 twins]

Originally Posted by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402

My mom had a 79 Silver Anniversary for many years, she LOVED that car. It flew, no doubt about it, but my 100+ MPH days were behind me. It had a 403 "Buick" engine. It had been stolen, so my step-dad in the auto body business ended up with it. It was like brand new when my mom got it, though it wasn't even a year old yet. I'd think there would be a BIG market for a TA like you say.



I don't see any engine bays or interiors?

The 403 was an Oldsmobile engine NOT a Buick!

I had one in a 77 Cutlass Supreme

[special-K]

Originally Posted by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402

But Pontiac never made one of these though. Some Nova guys call these cream of the crop. My friend has one (not pictured), his exterior is beautiful stock but the rest is modified for speed, comfort and electrical components.

Agree on Camaros Tim, some are really beautiful. Even the name is smooth.

That Nova is about a stout li'l thing. Looks like it has a bad temper. My '63 Hardtop V8/4spd was white with blue interior and Cragars. I always wished I could grab an Acadian or a Beaumont. Those are the answer to this poll not listed... BOTH!


The Camaro name is very cool. I believe it came from a French-English dictionary as slang for the French word comarade, which the English word comrade comes from. So that's cool. The Camaro was meant to be your good friend. But an urban legend version says it's a small animal that eats Mustangs. Not a hard one to believe

[LT7A]

Caramount was in the running for the name in lieu of Camaro. Got to say I'm really glad - they made the right choice on that one.

[71CHEVYSHORTBED402]

Originally Posted by 67 twins

The 403 was an Oldsmobile engine NOT a Buick!

I had one in a 77 Cutlass Supreme

Ooooooooops, correct.

[special-K]

Originally Posted by LT7A

Caramount was in the running for the name in lieu of Camaro. Got to say I'm really glad - they made the right choice on that one.

That would have been a big caramistake. What is a caramount, anyway? I searched before posting and the search engine wanted to give me results for "caromont". The word doesn't even exist. Just a bad way of adding the 'C' to the front of Paramount? Hokey to say the least. I can't imagine anything other than Camaro, other than Cirebird