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mcmlxix · 09-08-2003, 04:11 PM

I was thinking about starting to collect the parts to rebuild the suspension on a 71 C/10. I want to sandblast and powdercoat without having the truck down.
This is just an idea but If any one has a set of 4 (upper and lower) control arms send me a price with shipping to 10310 (business address)
Thanks

MOTHERTRUCKERS · 09-08-2003, 06:24 PM

240.00 powder coated gloss black including shipping.

mcmlxix · 09-08-2003, 10:57 PM

I have my own sandblaster and powdercoating equipment. I want to do it cheap myself.

MOTHERTRUCKERS · 09-09-2003, 08:19 AM

O K non coated 110.00 with shipping.

cwilli84 · 09-09-2003, 09:08 AM

Mother trucker , do those arms come with the shafts installed on them. Let me know

MOTHERTRUCKERS · 09-09-2003, 10:22 AM

Yes they do, the ball joints are in them also.

clean71 · 09-09-2003, 01:42 PM

I'm looking for a set of lowers. Anybody have those? How much shipped to 85367? Thanks.

alta-aj · 09-10-2003, 01:32 AM

I have a set of lowers. I'm looking for $70 + shipping.

ucmydust68 · 09-10-2003, 09:08 AM

i have lowers. just pulled them off, 50 + shipping!!! pm me if ya want em!

clean71 · 09-10-2003, 10:31 AM

Forgot to ask. Ineed these for my 68. Are all the arms the same? Thanks.

ucmydust68 · 09-10-2003, 10:32 AM

im not really sure, these have disc brakes and i think that 68's are drums so they might be different

jmanz69 · 09-11-2003, 09:08 PM

I have a pair from a 69. It had drums, and the drum and disc ones are different, but only for the lowers. Mine need blasted, but are cheap. Only $25 plus shipping. They also need new ball joints and shafts too.

mcmlxix · 09-11-2003, 09:44 PM

I thought all the arms were the same, upper and lower. I thought it was the ball joints that made them fit drum or disc spindles. If you look at all the drop spindle options, I think it says 67-70 must use 71-72 ... wait, maybe that was tie rod ends ... help... one of the parts guys should know .... mothertrucker, wes,rick ???

jmanz69 · 09-11-2003, 09:48 PM

It's the steering stops and the ball joints that are different. If you use 67-70 lower control arms, you will have a very wide turning radius. The 71-72 arms are a slightly different design, that allow for a sharper turn radius. That is the difference between lower arms. 67-70 arms can be used to change to disc by changing the ball joint to a 71-72 type, but you will not be able to turn as sharp.

MOTHERTRUCKERS · 09-11-2003, 10:06 PM

mcmlxix Not ALL drop spindles need tierod or ball joint changes! Check the suspension section of our online catalog.

cheyenne10 · 09-12-2003, 12:54 AM

Can someone confirm that 68-70 a-arms are differnt than 71/72 version. That would change a lot for myself as well as others.

jmanz69 · 09-12-2003, 07:07 AM

Why don't people believe me... Anyway, here are pics to show the difference. The first is a 71-72 arm, see how the steering stop is rounded off at the top....

jmanz69 · 09-12-2003, 07:09 AM

This is the 67-70 style. The steering stop is more pointed. That and the ball joints are the differences. You can use 67-70 lower arms with no problems, and you probably won't really notice much difference.

mcmlxix · 09-12-2003, 09:02 AM

I believe you ... so what makes the truning radius so large? And when you say large, how large? can you still make a u-turn in a two lane street or do you have to make an X-Y-Z turn? (X-Y-Z turn means back and forth 26 times just to turn around)

cwilli84 · 09-12-2003, 09:06 AM

I thinkits due to the indicated bumps hitting the inside of the spindle and decreasing the angle at which the tire can rotate inboard/outboard. I think I got this right.

jmanz69 · 09-12-2003, 09:48 AM

cwilli you are right, the disc spindles hit differently than the drum spindles do. Each control arm was made to work with the correct spindle. But you can still turn. I don't know exactly how much wider your turn radius will be. I am using the 71-72 spindles and the 71-72 control arms.

mcmlxix · 09-12-2003, 10:05 AM

so if you "adjust" (read: cut,hack,torch,beat) them, the turning radius issue will be solved? It has nothing to do with the over all length / width / design of the arm itself?

jmanz69 · 09-12-2003, 10:35 AM

Correct, if you beat the hell out of it, it will work. I have heard of people doing it. There is no difference in size lenght or anything. Just the steering stop and the ball joint.

cheyenne10 · 09-12-2003, 12:38 PM

Sorry if I offended anyone. I just wanted to confirm what is being said. I studied your pictures and I see what you mean on steering stop.

Now that said does a stock 71-72 truck have a shorter turning radius vs the earlier ones which turned a bigger circle? It was stated above that "you will have a very wide turning radius" or is it a combo of early lower arms and new disc spindles that increase radius over stock drum setup.

Bottom line is I want tight turn radius and disc brakes with 2.5" lowered spindles. I only want to do this once.

thanks for all advise.

Sorry if this dettracts from original post on collecting suspension parts and price.

jmanz69 · 09-12-2003, 01:18 PM

I believe it's the combo of the early arms and spindles and the 71-72 spindles and arms. Each was designed to work with the other. Meaning the 71-72 spindles were meant to work with the 71-72 lower arms. If you use aftermarket spindles, ask them what year they work with. Some spindles are made to work with the 67-70 arms. Which means they should have the turn radius in mind. Hope this helps. and good luck.

09-08-2003, 04:11 PM	#1
mcmlxix Collector of Projects Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 3,106	wanted: control arms 71-72 C/10 I was thinking about starting to collect the parts to rebuild the suspension on a 71 C/10. I want to sandblast and powdercoat without having the truck down. This is just an idea but If any one has a set of 4 (upper and lower) control arms send me a price with shipping to 10310 (business address) Thanks __________________ Rich 1972 K5 Blazer CST Click HERE D60 BIG BRAKE UPGRADE Click HERE

09-08-2003, 06:24 PM	#2
MOTHERTRUCKERS Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: BRADENTON FLA Posts: 3,269	240.00 powder coated gloss black including shipping. __________________ Rest in Peace Ed. Thanks for all the good times.

09-08-2003, 10:57 PM	#3
mcmlxix Collector of Projects Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 3,106	I have my own sandblaster and powdercoating equipment. I want to do it cheap myself. __________________ Rich 1972 K5 Blazer CST Click HERE D60 BIG BRAKE UPGRADE Click HERE

09-09-2003, 08:19 AM	#4
MOTHERTRUCKERS Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: BRADENTON FLA Posts: 3,269	O K non coated 110.00 with shipping. __________________ Rest in Peace Ed. Thanks for all the good times.

09-09-2003, 09:08 AM	#5
cwilli84 1FINE69 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Detroit, Michigan Posts: 239	Mother trucker , do those arms come with the shafts installed on them. Let me know __________________ Had a 69 swb fleetside 350zz3 w 400turbo trans oak lined bed with rhino coated sides red exterior. SOLD

09-09-2003, 10:22 AM	#6
MOTHERTRUCKERS Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: BRADENTON FLA Posts: 3,269	Yes they do, the ball joints are in them also. __________________ Rest in Peace Ed. Thanks for all the good times.

09-09-2003, 01:42 PM	#7
clean71 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 335	I'm looking for a set of lowers. Anybody have those? How much shipped to 85367? Thanks. __________________ CPO U.S. Navy(Ret) 1972 GMC Jimmy 4x4 Custom 1972 GMC Jimmy 2x4 Custom

09-10-2003, 01:32 AM	#8
alta-aj Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Qualicum Beach, B.C>, Canada Posts: 117	clean71 - I have a set. I have a set of lowers. I'm looking for $70 + shipping.

09-10-2003, 09:08 AM	#9
ucmydust68 fuel Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: belton mo Posts: 371	i have lowers. just pulled them off, 50 + shipping!!! pm me if ya want em!

09-10-2003, 10:31 AM	#10
clean71 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 335	Forgot to ask. Ineed these for my 68. Are all the arms the same? Thanks. __________________ CPO U.S. Navy(Ret) 1972 GMC Jimmy 4x4 Custom 1972 GMC Jimmy 2x4 Custom

09-10-2003, 10:32 AM	#11
ucmydust68 fuel Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: belton mo Posts: 371	im not really sure, these have disc brakes and i think that 68's are drums so they might be different

09-11-2003, 09:08 PM	#12
jmanz69 Careful, they attack... Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Waterford, MI, USA Posts: 1,107	I have a pair from a 69. It had drums, and the drum and disc ones are different, but only for the lowers. Mine need blasted, but are cheap. Only $25 plus shipping. They also need new ball joints and shafts too.

09-11-2003, 09:44 PM	#13
mcmlxix Collector of Projects Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 3,106	I thought all the arms were the same, upper and lower. I thought it was the ball joints that made them fit drum or disc spindles. If you look at all the drop spindle options, I think it says 67-70 must use 71-72 ... wait, maybe that was tie rod ends ... help... one of the parts guys should know .... mothertrucker, wes,rick ??? __________________ Rich 1972 K5 Blazer CST Click HERE D60 BIG BRAKE UPGRADE Click HERE

09-11-2003, 09:48 PM	#14
jmanz69 Careful, they attack... Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Waterford, MI, USA Posts: 1,107	It's the steering stops and the ball joints that are different. If you use 67-70 lower control arms, you will have a very wide turning radius. The 71-72 arms are a slightly different design, that allow for a sharper turn radius. That is the difference between lower arms. 67-70 arms can be used to change to disc by changing the ball joint to a 71-72 type, but you will not be able to turn as sharp.

09-11-2003, 10:06 PM	#15
MOTHERTRUCKERS Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: BRADENTON FLA Posts: 3,269	mcmlxix Not ALL drop spindles need tierod or ball joint changes! Check the suspension section of our online catalog. __________________ Rest in Peace Ed. Thanks for all the good times.



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09-12-2003, 12:54 AM	#16
cheyenne10 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,511	jmanz69 Can someone confirm that 68-70 a-arms are differnt than 71/72 version. That would change a lot for myself as well as others. __________________ Bob

09-12-2003, 07:07 AM	#17
jmanz69 Careful, they attack... Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Waterford, MI, USA Posts: 1,107	Why don't people believe me... Anyway, here are pics to show the difference. The first is a 71-72 arm, see how the steering stop is rounded off at the top.... Attached Images

09-12-2003, 07:09 AM	#18
jmanz69 Careful, they attack... Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Waterford, MI, USA Posts: 1,107	This is the 67-70 style. The steering stop is more pointed. That and the ball joints are the differences. You can use 67-70 lower arms with no problems, and you probably won't really notice much difference. Attached Images

09-12-2003, 09:02 AM	#19
mcmlxix Collector of Projects Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 3,106	I believe you ... so what makes the truning radius so large? And when you say large, how large? can you still make a u-turn in a two lane street or do you have to make an X-Y-Z turn? (X-Y-Z turn means back and forth 26 times just to turn around) __________________ Rich 1972 K5 Blazer CST Click HERE D60 BIG BRAKE UPGRADE Click HERE

09-12-2003, 09:06 AM	#20
cwilli84 1FINE69 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Detroit, Michigan Posts: 239	I thinkits due to the indicated bumps hitting the inside of the spindle and decreasing the angle at which the tire can rotate inboard/outboard. I think I got this right. __________________ Had a 69 swb fleetside 350zz3 w 400turbo trans oak lined bed with rhino coated sides red exterior. SOLD

09-12-2003, 09:48 AM	#21
jmanz69 Careful, they attack... Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Waterford, MI, USA Posts: 1,107	cwilli you are right, the disc spindles hit differently than the drum spindles do. Each control arm was made to work with the correct spindle. But you can still turn. I don't know exactly how much wider your turn radius will be. I am using the 71-72 spindles and the 71-72 control arms.

09-12-2003, 10:05 AM	#22
mcmlxix Collector of Projects Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 3,106	so if you "adjust" (read: cut,hack,torch,beat) them, the turning radius issue will be solved? It has nothing to do with the over all length / width / design of the arm itself? __________________ Rich 1972 K5 Blazer CST Click HERE D60 BIG BRAKE UPGRADE Click HERE

09-12-2003, 10:35 AM	#23
jmanz69 Careful, they attack... Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Waterford, MI, USA Posts: 1,107	Correct, if you beat the hell out of it, it will work. I have heard of people doing it. There is no difference in size lenght or anything. Just the steering stop and the ball joint.

09-12-2003, 12:38 PM	#24
cheyenne10 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,511	I believe!! Sorry if I offended anyone. I just wanted to confirm what is being said. I studied your pictures and I see what you mean on steering stop. Now that said does a stock 71-72 truck have a shorter turning radius vs the earlier ones which turned a bigger circle? It was stated above that "you will have a very wide turning radius" or is it a combo of early lower arms and new disc spindles that increase radius over stock drum setup. Bottom line is I want tight turn radius and disc brakes with 2.5" lowered spindles. I only want to do this once. thanks for all advise. Sorry if this dettracts from original post on collecting suspension parts and price. __________________ Bob

09-12-2003, 01:18 PM	#25
jmanz69 Careful, they attack... Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Waterford, MI, USA Posts: 1,107	I believe it's the combo of the early arms and spindles and the 71-72 spindles and arms. Each was designed to work with the other. Meaning the 71-72 spindles were meant to work with the 71-72 lower arms. If you use aftermarket spindles, ask them what year they work with. Some spindles are made to work with the 67-70 arms. Which means they should have the turn radius in mind. Hope this helps. and good luck.

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