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Old 08-27-2021, 11:26 AM   #1
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Seems to me all my hardline clips were clear zinc with various stamps or not, like "P". They were refinished the same.

Interesting. I wonder if related to a different plant thing. Mine were marked with the P, or a size indicator. The single clips were black but all the others were colored. Even the parking brake had an odd turquoise color to it.
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Interesting. I wonder if related to a different plant thing. Mine were marked with the P, or a size indicator. The single clips were black but all the others were colored. Even the parking brake had an odd turquoise color to it.
I won't swear to it because I had to remove paint from everything, my idea of clean 30 years ago. But from what I remember the tube retainers were at best black overspray. Krylon under the bed, Rustoleum under front and spray gun under the hood in freezing temperaturesto be exact.

Some of my tube clips are blank, which I recall are a smaller version of one that is stamped, so I had a clue where & what.

What's that bracket for?
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Ha, I knew I'd seen it someplace, it looks HUGE in your picture. That's a beautiful site your undercarriage and clip, super nice.

Speak of clips, I had all mine handled less these, one is still in a vinegar bath. So happens they're stamped with my first initials "AR" underneath the plastic coat, figures they'd be last.

Anyway, I nearly installed my evap. case today, but I don't like the looks of the new P clips, because the gauge is thick and I can just see it begging to strip a nut or stud. So I thought to look at the old ones, which I was never sure were original. Turns out they're thinner gauge, so I'm using them.

The evap. case took P clips for the AC & blower harness and vacuum right? Seems right. Edit: Yes, per assembly manual.


For what worth, if I need to refinish something small in a pinch I use Caldwell's black oxide, and their sealer too. Tell you what man, it won't hold up as well as a lot of good finishes, but to me it's by far better looking than zinc type finishes or retail oxide. Takes a wrench real well too, though I only use it for small.

Picture of my parking brake clamp as I found it. What year is your truck?
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72, though with a measly 350.

Sorry, I am an idiot. The turquoise clips are for the speedometer cable, not the brake cable. Apologies for the confusion.

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72, though with a measly 350.

Sorry, I am an idiot. The turquoise clips are for the speedometer cable, not the brake cable. Apologies for the confusion.
No apologies necessary. It's funny you should bring it up though, my notes have been wrong before, but in the case of the speedometer cable I completely missed the bolts & retainers.

My speedometer cable retainers could have very well been turquoise. Wouldn't surprise me, I think a lot of these components came in kits evidenced by symbols on bolts and such, and speedometer could have been one.

I was giving Caldwell props and thought to show some various finishes. Link for some finishes, might be right http://429mustangcougarinfo.50megs.com/new_page_26.htm
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I won't swear to it, but these might be the original headlights. They sure last a long while, though I haven't done much night driving since the early 90s.
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Preparing to install the steering column, I thought I'd ID this stuff in some pics. This is just one column of course, sure a lot of parts, and my old notes were a travesty Less some hardware, I think this represents all of pieces between the lower shift linkage & rag joint.
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Wow! Do you have a rubber bumper for brake pedal stop plate?
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Wow! Do you have a rubber bumper for brake pedal stop plate?
Glad you mentioned it, I read someplace recently there is supposed to be one, but I've never seen it. Happen to know of a replacement?

Seems one of these or both if it suits.............https://www.classicparts.com/60-74-C...ctinfo/90-622/
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The only reason I noticed it is because it came up in another thread today.

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The only reason I noticed it is because it came up in another thread today.

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Appreciate you bringing it up. Thank you.
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I frequently use your build thread as a reference. I thought it interesting on the discussion about the brake pedal bump stop. My truck is/was fairly original with all the original bits. However, I did not have the bump stop for the pedal. I've since ordered one.

I just went and double checked. I do not see any indication that there ever was one. No witness marks on the pedal arm, or on the square hole.

I only bring this up because I know of all members, you would have documented the thing.

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I frequently use your build thread as a reference. I thought it interesting on the discussion about the brake pedal bump stop. My truck is/was fairly original with all the original bits. However, I did not have the bump stop for the pedal. I've since ordered one.

I just went and double checked. I do not see any indication that there ever was one. No witness marks on the pedal arm, or on the square hole.

I only bring this up because I know of all members, you would have documented the thing.
I wonder if trucks with power brakes didn't have the bump stop.
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I wonder if trucks with power brakes didn't have the bump stop.
Just wondering the same thing. Ironically, I was waiting for the arrival of the bump stop to adjust my linkage. Snapped a couple of pics of pedal and backside (un-restored). If there was one, it was lost very early.

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I frequently use your build thread as a reference. I thought it interesting on the discussion about the brake pedal bump stop. My truck is/was fairly original with all the original bits. However, I did not have the bump stop for the pedal. I've since ordered one.

I just went and double checked. I do not see any indication that there ever was one. No witness marks on the pedal arm, or on the square hole.

I only bring this up because I know of all members, you would have documented the thing.
Yeah kind of OCD, thanks for your contribution Interesting thought above they perhaps weren't installed with power brakes. My 72 Super doesn't have one, no indication it did. Next time it's started I'll have to check if the pedal approaches the plate.

Subject of brakes I wanted to permanently install the push rod to the brake pedal tonight. It had a stover nut and cotter pin, same with my 72. But the nut stripped the bolt threads so I cleaned them up, they were bad, some suspicions that's common? I think I'll run with a hex & split washer to save the bolt from another stover nut though. Can always mark it I suppose, check for slippage. Some opinions split washers are useless. The manual shows both options, though I've yet to see a page where they ID a stover nut, they only read & appear as "nuts".

Manual appears to show lube that rod to the brake pedal too, at first I thought it meant bolt's shaft. Must see a lot of friction, think I'll grease both
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Appreciate you bringing it up. Thank you.
hi Tony,i checked my truck and there isn't any rubber bump stop.mine looks identical to the other pictures but i'll get you a pic of this one if you want one,if it's any help.take care.Greg
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hi Tony,i checked my truck and there isn't any rubber bump stop.mine looks identical to the other pictures but i'll get you a pic of this one if you want one,if it's any help.take care.Greg
I don't need a pic. but thanks Greg. Pjmoreland probably nailed it, they're for manual brakes, and a clutch. At the moment I'm pondering how to insert the steering shaftsNot how they line up but so it fits, though I haven't tried yet. First thing I installed was the seal and retainer and inserted the jacket & shift tube assm. through the front. I tried inserting it from the cab and then installing the seal, but I don't have the patience for that, nor does the insulation.

For a guy who didn't know anything when I tore this down, failed to scribe for alignment for instance, the nice thing about the shafts and jacket is with a little study of the pot joint they only fit one way. The tab on the brake pedal support inserts into the jacket as a safety provision, but for orientation even better.
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Here's a photo from an unrestored 72 with power brakes that I owned a while back. It didn't have the bump stop.
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Burnout................Done with it.

Just kidding on the later, but yeah, when the restoration on the compressor goes no-where, a run around really, and send out trim for restoration only to find another packing error. Was already fried the day I received that trim back.

But the good news is they finally took the compressor back, and the dryer too another packing error. And the guy doing the trim is outstanding that end of things, so it landed his place, again, a few days ago.

Third time on that lower rear window - the first group were useless. The other two pieces which supposedly "can't be done" were returned better than new. The bottom as well until someone stepped on it 1K just for front & rear window trim, had it to begin with and the fronts and retainers were mint less a polish from start.

Learning a lot along the way though, looking for that perfect grease I have far too many. I wrote up a "motivation list" with about 50 things I got to do yet beyond little stuff. 50 is nothing at all, none of them are especially major.

I nearly finished my steering when I tried to do it backwards so to speak part of the burn out right. All it was is you can't mount the intermediate shaft to the rag joint until after the spring is loaded So I'll finish that up with the guy helping build this for quick work come January, then we install the tailgate & doors, Yes!

Hopefully I get the compressor to install that end, then we throw on the rest of the clip & moldings & the balance is mine until exhaust. I'm still shooting for May 16th maiden start, I want to catch it before it's 51st B-day

I have two NOS inner grilles, the painter, who has helped build this is painting the original Technically it's not original, I slapped that on about 1991. We're building her with the old outer grille, get her started, then I'll install the condenser, slap on the other grille, and the rest of a stage of bewilderment. I don't know about your builds, but I've anticipated lenses & simple cab components for a a long long while.

Master cyl is "due Feb". Vent windows due?

The cab's kickdown harness arrived this week. Ordered that in January. The intermediate and rear bed lights are still pending.........Crazy time to wrap up a build man. On the bright side the cab is nearly wired, just need to install a lighter & ignition yet.

Installed the oil line with the kickdown today. I lost the lower tube, and a few hours & clean-up later I found it where I looked the first time Came across the truck's shift lever and thought to polish it with cheap stuff. I thought for sure it was marked up in a few spots, but nothing to it, feeling blessed in that respect.
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Nice to finish this area of the dash.
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Beautiful!
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Early in this project I picked up the NOS dome light bezel. They're not exactly plentiful in bling.

Last night I couldn't sleep thinking about installing it after figuring things out. When I took the old one down I thought it installed with screws right Don't tell anyone, but of all the screw holes that needed to be welded in the cab I missed those, should have known just by they weren't drilled square.

I hear they rattle, go figure, the one in my C20 has clear sealant around the outer parameter - not really a nice look. I figured 3M strip caulk has a place here, avoiding clip & lens interference. Once figured out I think it took a minute to install that & the harness. Snugged right up.

I imagine there's little or no visual difference this & repro. though. Speak of harnesses, I ordered them last January, and it only took 11 months to get them. Really I never got the turn switch, but I found an NOS. Wouldn't surprise me I receive the turn switch at some point. They sent the harnesses as they built them. Yeah, 11 months worth so far. Love COVID & that, maybe the chinese can build the harnesses too

For anyone wondering how to remove these, the clips on the housing only spring one side each. The RH clip spring is accessed from underneath & the LH clip spring from above. Perhaps a good place for a credit card.
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When my body & paint guy offered to paint the grille I didn't know he was going PAINT the grille, pictures can't do it justice, at all.

He sprayed it twice, because the first time exposed marks inside the cells, probably natural, but he wasn't having it, so he sanded everything smooth, hit it again and used the same clear coat he sprayed the body with. It's heavier than once before for sure.

This is near as much his project as mine, couldn't do it without him. I pay him say 50% more than he wants though, on-going He wanted $200 to finish this grille

It's the same grille I installed new early 90s, seems it was $50-60 at a place called Chevyland. It was better than the NOS acquired over the years, so off to bed. Be a good day when I install it - the truck will have returned from its maiden start, God willing
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Finished the steering and tailgate yesterday. We started on the doors only to find out the original 3M tape on original molding clips are no good after 40-50 years
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