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**GOPAPA** · 05-17-2021, 03:29 PM

the difference between the 1971 Chevy Truck and the 2021 Chevy Truck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDat2LEsVKM

**Stocker** · 05-17-2021, 04:29 PM

Thanks for posting, Larry! I don't watch a lot of videos but I'm glad I watched that one start to finish.

**A1971Blazer** · 05-17-2021, 05:28 PM

Pretty cool....that's why the price of trucks now exceeds the price of most cars...
Way back then a truck was about ½ the price of a car
I remember my Dad bought a new 68 GMC for $2500....

57taskforce · 05-17-2021, 06:07 PM

Cool video! Small side note, the 5.3 is not a 305... I wouldn’t mind having a ‘21 next to my old ones but I’m not getting rid of my old ones to get a ‘21

1976gmc20 · 05-17-2021, 06:08 PM

We found a four year old regular cab long bed that had been bought new by some sort of contractor. So I guess you could buy a new one if you order it and wait long enough - which apparently he did. Probably you would need to plan ahead six months to a year before you actually needed it.

I used to cram myself and three gals on the bench seat of my 1973 K20

1976gmc20 · 05-17-2021, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 57taskforce

Cool video! Small side note, the 5.3 is not a 305... I wouldn’t mind having a ‘21 next to my old ones but I’m not getting rid of my old ones to get a ‘21

Yeah according to my math 5.0 is the same as a 307.

(I discovered that's what I have in my 89 K1500)

**Stocker** · 05-17-2021, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 57taskforce

Small side note, the 5.3 is not a 305...

Good catch. If memory serves, 5.3L is ~327cid....

**GOPAPA** · 05-17-2021, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stocker

Good catch. If memory serves, 5.3L is ~327cid....

I was thinking that a 5.3 is 325

4u2nv · 05-17-2021, 08:42 PM

327

**GOPAPA** · 05-17-2021, 09:02 PM

Chevy used to have a 327 which was the 5.4L engine. Now they call it the 5.3L engine so it is the old 327 down sized slightly to a 323.

**Steeveedee** · 05-17-2021, 09:13 PM

1 liter is 61.0237 CI, so just use the clackulator!

FWIW, the Chevy 350 engine is actually 348 CI. Guess why Chevy didn't call it that.

89AKurt · 05-17-2021, 09:30 PM

Rolex Ranch trucks nowadays cost a fortune, can't imagine construction workers able to swing it. Oh wait, they do around Prescott, because building is booming! I'll watch later.

**Getter-Done** · 05-17-2021, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GOPAPA

Chevy used to have a 327 which was the 5.4L engine. Now they call it the 5.3L engine so it is the old 327 down sized slightly to a 323.

Thanks for sharing the Video you seen.

As far as the C.I D. / Liter / Horsepower / Torque go

The 327 CID converts to 5.35856993 Liters

As a young guy I studied the Chilton manuels and memorized them.

I should have been looking at my School Books

As a Machinist by Trade now.

I remember how {(They)} twisted the numbers in the Late 60's /early 70's.

for well known reasons

So on a positive note.

Here is a conversion of engines I remember/ Compare

list.

230CID =3.77 L
235CID =3.851 L
250CID =4.1 L
265CID =4.343 L
283CID =4.64 L
292CID =4.785 L
305CID =5.0 L
307CID =5.031 L
327CID =5.3585 L
350CID =5.735 L
(383 CID) = 6.276 L
396CID =6.489 L
400CID =6.5548 L
402CID =6.5876 L
427CID =7.0 L
454CID =7.44 L

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**GOPAPA** · 05-18-2021, 09:44 AM

[QUOTE=Getter-Done;8921956]Thanks for sharing the Video you seen.

As far as the C.I D. / Liter / Horsepower / Torque go

The 327 CID converts to 5.35856993 Liters

As a young guy I studied the Chilton manuels and memorized them.

I should have been looking at my School Books

As a Machinist by Trade now.

I remember how {(They)} twisted the numbers in the Late 60's /early 70's.

for well known reasons

So on a positive note.

Here is a conversion of engines I remember/ Compare

list.

230CID =3.77 L
235CID =3.851 L
250CID =4.1 L
265CID =4.343 L
283CID =4.64 L
292CID =4.785 L
305CID =5.0 L
307CID =5.031 L
327CID =5.3585 L
350CID =5.735 L
(383 CID) = 6.276 L
396CID =6.489 L
400CID =6.5548 L
402CID =6.5876 L
427CID =7.0 L
454CID =7.44 L

Getter-Done
I stand corrected ,Thank You .This what you state is right there beside how they wiggle wormed the Horse Power ratings back in the day..
You have a good memory also.

**Boog** · 05-18-2021, 10:19 AM

It seems to always come down to "size matters" doesn't it ?

But who stole the plywood?

blazer2007 · 05-18-2021, 10:48 AM

I would steal the plywood ,is worth alot of money

1976gmc20 · 05-18-2021, 11:55 AM

So my 6.0 is a 366, but no relation to the medium duty truck engine?

57taskforce · 05-18-2021, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1976gmc20

So my 6.0 is a 366, but no relation to the medium duty truck engine?

I’m pretty sure the 6.0 is a 364,(mine is going to be a 402

after a stroker bottom end) and yes no relation to the 366 big block.

toms68cst · 05-18-2021, 03:32 PM

LOL. I have a newer 4x4 quad cab Tundra. I love it all around but hate loading anything in the back. It's a SOB for this old man to get into. I don't know how many times I have wished for a bigger bed.

And like in that video, With every new truck my dad ever bought, He'd go out a buy a piece of plywood for the bed.

**joedoh** · 05-18-2021, 09:38 PM

yes, the liter to cubic inch conversion depends on who you ask: engineering? or marketing? ford made a lot of 5.0s that were really ~4.9s.

and used to be the bmws had their engine size on the badge (last two numbers), until marketing started messing with it in the 90s-00s. you could buy a 323i that was a 2.5 but called a 2.3 because the newer design 2.5 engine was upmarket and so it was called 325i.

and by the by, in fords the 302 had more cachet than the 351s, but the opposite is true for chevys, the 5.7 is the motor to have but the 5.0 is better used as a sewer filter according to some guys.

**Stocker** · 05-18-2021, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joedoh

and by the by, in fords the 302 had more cachet than the 351s, but the opposite is true for chevys, the 5.7 is the motor to have but the 5.0 is better used as a sewer filter according to some guys.

Yep.... unless you're talking about Chevy's 302 that was in old Z28 Camaros.

burnin oil · 05-19-2021, 08:07 AM

Hot rodders built 302s before chevy but they called them 301s. Ain't the numbers game fun.

**Ol Blue K20** · 05-19-2021, 09:15 AM

301 was a Buick nailed I think.

**Steeveedee** · 05-19-2021, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burnin oil

Hot rodders built 302s before chevy but they called them 301s. Ain't the numbers game fun.

Punched out 283s, yup, that's what we called them back in the '60s.

**Stocker** · 05-19-2021, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Steeveedee

Punched out 283s, yup, that's what we called them back in the '60s.

Yeah, I used to know pretty much how hotrodders did it, and how Chevy did it. Most of that limited knowledge has since escaped my brainpan.
Didn't Chevy basically use a 327 block with a 283 crank? About all I remember is a 4" bore and a 3" stroke.

05-17-2021, 03:29 PM	#1
GOPAPA "Tail Gate Best Seat In House" Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nampa Idaho Posts: 7,348	"Please Don't take my Plywood" the difference between the 1971 Chevy Truck and the 2021 Chevy Truck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDat2LEsVKM __________________ When you learn a thing a day you store up smart.

05-17-2021, 04:29 PM	#2
Stocker 20' Daredevil (Ret) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Jefferson State Posts: 13,497	Re: "Please Don't take my Plywood" Thanks for posting, Larry! I don't watch a lot of videos but I'm glad I watched that one start to finish. __________________ - Mike - 1972 K20 LWB 350/350/205 RIP El Jay

05-17-2021, 05:28 PM	#3
A1971Blazer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 2,107	Re: "Please Don't take my Plywood" Pretty cool....that's why the price of trucks now exceeds the price of most cars... Way back then a truck was about ½ the price of a car I remember my Dad bought a new 68 GMC for $2500.... __________________ 1967 C10 Step side 1968 C10 Step side 1970 Chevrolet K/5 Blazer 1972 Chevrolet K/5 Blazer .............

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57taskforce All about them K’s Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Farmington, New Mexico Posts: 6,230	Re: "Please Don't take my Plywood" Cool video! Small side note, the 5.3 is not a 305... I wouldn’t mind having a ‘21 next to my old ones but I’m not getting rid of my old ones to get a ‘21 __________________ Tyler '57 3100 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=813888 '72 K20 Cheyenne http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=662879 ‘69 K10 SWB http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=805206 '98 Silverado LT K2500HD ECLB Vortec 454/4l80E: 6" lift 315/75/16's ‘87 IROC-Z all original 50K mile survivor TPI 305 IROC Blue ‘10 Camaro 2SS/RS Aqua Blue Metallic #93 -version 2.0

05-17-2021, 06:08 PM	#5
1976gmc20 Registered User Join Date: May 2015 Location: Montana Posts: 3,696	Re: "Please Don't take my Plywood" We found a four year old regular cab long bed that had been bought new by some sort of contractor. So I guess you could buy a new one if you order it and wait long enough - which apparently he did. Probably you would need to plan ahead six months to a year before you actually needed it. I used to cram myself and three gals on the bench seat of my 1973 K20 __________________ Current/past Chevy/GMC trucks: 1958 Chevy C-60; 1965 GMC C-50; 1965 Chevy C-10; 1971 Chevy K-10; 1973 Chevy K-20; 1976 GMC C-20; 1977 Chevy C-10 Suburban; 1980 Chevy K-10; 1989 Chevy K1500; 1991 GMC V1500 Suburban; 2016 Chevy K2500 HD Other vehicles: 1988 Jeep XJ; 2011 Toyota 4Runner

05-17-2021, 08:42 PM	#9
4u2nv Registered User Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Ontario Peterborough Posts: 739	Re: "Please Don't take my Plywood" 327

05-17-2021, 09:02 PM	#10
GOPAPA "Tail Gate Best Seat In House" Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nampa Idaho Posts: 7,348	Re: "Please Don't take my Plywood" Chevy used to have a 327 which was the 5.4L engine. Now they call it the 5.3L engine so it is the old 327 down sized slightly to a 323. __________________ When you learn a thing a day you store up smart.

05-17-2021, 09:13 PM	#11
Steeveedee Who Changed This? Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Simi Valley, CA Posts: 10,088	Re: "Please Don't take my Plywood" 1 liter is 61.0237 CI, so just use the clackulator! FWIW, the Chevy 350 engine is actually 348 CI. Guess why Chevy didn't call it that. __________________ ~Steven '70 Chevy 3/4T Longhorn CST 402/400/3.56 Custom Camper Simi Valley, CA

05-17-2021, 09:30 PM	#12
89AKurt Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Prescott Arizona Posts: 621	Re: "Please Don't take my Plywood" Rolex Ranch trucks nowadays cost a fortune, can't imagine construction workers able to swing it. Oh wait, they do around Prescott, because building is booming! I'll watch later. __________________ 1968 Long Bed 2016 Honda Civic Coupe EX-T ticket magnet

05-18-2021, 09:44 AM	#14
GOPAPA "Tail Gate Best Seat In House" Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nampa Idaho Posts: 7,348	"Please Don't take my Plywood" [QUOTE=Getter-Done;8921956]Thanks for sharing the Video you seen. As far as the C.I D. / Liter / Horsepower / Torque go The 327 CID converts to 5.35856993 Liters As a young guy I studied the Chilton manuels and memorized them. I should have been looking at my School Books As a Machinist by Trade now. I remember how {(They)} twisted the numbers in the Late 60's /early 70's. for well known reasons So on a positive note. Here is a conversion of engines I remember/ Compare list. 230CID =3.77 L 235CID =3.851 L 250CID =4.1 L 265CID =4.343 L 283CID =4.64 L 292CID =4.785 L 305CID =5.0 L 307CID =5.031 L 327CID =5.3585 L 350CID =5.735 L (383 CID) = 6.276 L 396CID =6.489 L 400CID =6.5548 L 402CID =6.5876 L 427CID =7.0 L 454CID =7.44 L Getter-Done I stand corrected ,Thank You .This what you state is right there beside how they wiggle wormed the Horse Power ratings back in the day.. You have a good memory also. __________________ When you learn a thing a day you store up smart.

05-18-2021, 10:19 AM	#15
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05-18-2021, 10:48 AM	#16
blazer2007 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: vernon b.c. Posts: 3,022	Re: "Please Don't take my Plywood" I would steal the plywood ,is worth alot of money

05-18-2021, 11:55 AM	#17
1976gmc20 Registered User Join Date: May 2015 Location: Montana Posts: 3,696	Re: "Please Don't take my Plywood" So my 6.0 is a 366, but no relation to the medium duty truck engine? __________________ Current/past Chevy/GMC trucks: 1958 Chevy C-60; 1965 GMC C-50; 1965 Chevy C-10; 1971 Chevy K-10; 1973 Chevy K-20; 1976 GMC C-20; 1977 Chevy C-10 Suburban; 1980 Chevy K-10; 1989 Chevy K1500; 1991 GMC V1500 Suburban; 2016 Chevy K2500 HD Other vehicles: 1988 Jeep XJ; 2011 Toyota 4Runner

05-18-2021, 03:32 PM	#19
toms68cst Registered User Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Bismarck, ND Posts: 4,274	Re: "Please Don't take my Plywood" LOL. I have a newer 4x4 quad cab Tundra. I love it all around but hate loading anything in the back. It's a SOB for this old man to get into. I don't know how many times I have wished for a bigger bed. And like in that video, With every new truck my dad ever bought, He'd go out a buy a piece of plywood for the bed. __________________ Unrestored 68 C-10 CST. Original 327. 4-Speed CH465. 50k or so miles. TREASURER, Drum Brake Club.

05-18-2021, 09:38 PM	#20
joedoh Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Doodah Kansas Posts: 7,747	Re: "Please Don't take my Plywood" yes, the liter to cubic inch conversion depends on who you ask: engineering? or marketing? ford made a lot of 5.0s that were really ~4.9s. and used to be the bmws had their engine size on the badge (last two numbers), until marketing started messing with it in the 90s-00s. you could buy a 323i that was a 2.5 but called a 2.3 because the newer design 2.5 engine was upmarket and so it was called 325i. and by the by, in fords the 302 had more cachet than the 351s, but the opposite is true for chevys, the 5.7 is the motor to have but the 5.0 is better used as a sewer filter according to some guys. __________________ the mass of men live lives of quiet desperation if there is a problem, I can have it. new project WAYNE http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=844393



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