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Old 09-13-2007, 02:38 PM   #1
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.... I am tired of just hearing rumors about it.
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Old 09-14-2007, 12:29 AM   #2
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Old 09-14-2007, 09:05 AM   #3
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Oh, don't even get me started Mr. "No-Sho".
Hey.... let's not make it personal. I called. BTW... if you guys have enough time to text me.... seems like you could have dialed just as easy . My phone 'buzzes' for texts & rings for calls (hence the reason I missed 'ya).

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Old 09-17-2007, 06:26 PM   #4
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Re: Street Rod Sugar Daddy (Dino63's 78 C-10)

How did I miss this thread, man that is flat
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Old 09-17-2007, 07:25 PM   #5
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Re: Street Rod Sugar Daddy (Dino63's 78 C-10)

Clean truck. Any pics of the trans crossmember that comes with the kit. Will one bolt up to my 86.
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Old 10-16-2007, 12:47 PM   #6
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Clean truck. Any pics of the trans crossmember that comes with the kit. Will one bolt up to my 86.
I like the look of the one that comes with the dropmember kit. Are they sold separately.
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Old 10-16-2007, 01:00 PM   #7
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Hey porterbuilt. Do you (or anyone else) know, or would be able to find out and tell me how far the bottom of the canti arms hang below the rear frame rails? I need to know this measurement to figure out if i can use one on my truck. Info would be greatly appreciated! BTW that truck is sooooooo sick. I drool everytime i see pics of it.
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Hey porterbuilt. Do you (or anyone else) know, or would be able to find out and tell me how far the bottom of the canti arms hang below the rear frame rails? I need to know this measurement to figure out if i can use one on my truck. Info would be greatly appreciated! BTW that truck is sooooooo sick. I drool everytime i see pics of it.

I can measure that truck this weekend and get you the measurements you need. We also have another truck just like it here at the shop that's laying body and can take images of the measurements.

The truck shown above is my buddies and I'm still working on the entire Porterbuilt install from that build. Those are my wheels that I let him roll around on til we get the truck done.

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I like the look of the one that comes with the dropmember kit. Are they sold separately.
I don't have them priced separately from the kit, but can do so.
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you guys still hitting up sema??
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Finalll got the Dropmember and KP six-link with watt's link installed in Dino's 78. It's running 20's up front (with a lot more room for a larger wheel/tire combo) and 22's out back. It has a few loose ends to tie up before it's "done".

Second pic is the new ride height.
Is there pictures of this trucks rear end with the box off? It would be cool to see install or after pics.
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Is there pictures of this trucks rear end with the box off? It would be cool to see install or after pics.
The install will be featured as a tech. article in Street Trucks here shortly. I don't want to jack all the pics before the article comes out. Once the article is out, I will post TONS more pics here on the board.
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Re: Street Rod Sugar Daddy (Dino63's 78 C-10)

Well all i really wanted to see, or know was if you could lay pinch or body with one of these kits alone (no body drop). I am almost laying pinch now with a ART triangulated 4 link, but i am not real happy with it and am changing it out this winter. I was gonna change over to a parallel 4 link but after seeing this KPC kit i am super stoked to go that route. I just wanna make sure it will let me lay as low as i need to be. I am only running 17's now with 315/35/17 rubber so i am guessing it would be no prob as that white truck is almost on the ground with 22's. I may upgrade to 20's someday tho, so i need to know forsure that it would lay pinch. BTW that truck is sick, i can't even look at it without drooling!
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Well all i really wanted to see, or know was if you could lay pinch or body with one of these kits alone (no body drop). I am almost laying pinch now with a ART triangulated 4 link, but i am not real happy with it and am changing it out this winter. I was gonna change over to a parallel 4 link but after seeing this KPC kit i am super stoked to go that route. I just wanna make sure it will let me lay as low as i need to be. I am only running 17's now with 315/35/17 rubber so i am guessing it would be no prob as that white truck is almost on the ground with 22's. I may upgrade to 20's someday tho, so i need to know forsure that it would lay pinch. BTW that truck is sick, i can't even look at it without drooling!
There is plenty of room to lay pinch with the KP weld-in notch. With the frame on the ground, and the 22's out back there is still nearly two inches of room in the notch. They also make a bolt-in notch for the square body that will lay frame with a 20" wheel (not sure about tire diameter). Maybe Clint can chime-in.
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Re: Street Rod Sugar Daddy (Dino63's 78 C-10)

I already have a large step notch. My concern is if the actual 6 link will lay that low. Looking at this picture kinda makes me worried that it won't. It looks like his axle would have to be bottomed out in his notch to lay pinch, is that possible with this kit? Or is it just the way this truck is set up?
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I already have a large step notch. My concern is if the actual 6 link will lay that low. Looking at this picture kinda makes me worried that it won't. It looks like his axle would have to be bottomed out in his notch to lay pinch, is that possible with this kit? Or is it just the way this truck is set up?
i think maybe the shocks are limiting that. or maybe it needs bigger dogbones. i know my friend had to make longer dogbones on another companies 6 link to lay.

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i think maybe the shocks are limiting that. or maybe it needs bigger dogbones. i know my friend had to make longer dogbones on another companies 6 link to lay.
Yes i agree. I was looking on th KPC website after i had posted that and i believe they offer different size "dogbones?" for different wheel sizes which makes sense. So for example if i wanted to lay pinch on a 20 i could order the 22 i assume?

I went and looked at my truck after i posted that earlier as well and i have a new concern now lol. From looking at the pictures, if you were laying pinch wouldn't the bottom of the cant. bag support be dragging on the ground, especially if you were up in the front and dumped in the rear? It looks like it would be damn close if it didn't hit. It's so hard doing guess work from other peoples pics! Does anyone have one of these kits that would be able to measure how close to the ground these sit? I assume they don't hang lower than the stock bumpers? And again does anyone know what happens to bumper mounts if you have em? sorry for all the ?'s, i'm gonna be rippin my truck apart again this weekend and i need to know which route to take so i can get things ordered. :-) Thanks.
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another ? i just thought of, what was done with the bumper brackets on that white truck?
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This is the lowest 73-87 I have ever seen. I love it, hopefully mine will be at this point som day. Porterbuild would you ship to Germany?
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Hey thanks porterbuilt! I just went and looked at my truck again. You're completely right, i could have sworn the bumper brackets mounted further onto the frame but they don't. My bumper is pushed in about an inch or so more into truck for a cleaner look but i still think it would fit fine, if not nothing a lil grinding wouldn't fix right up. So, sorry for not looking more into it.

I got a rough measurement of the bottom of my frame to the ground while laying pinch and i have approx 3.5" clearance. Do you or anyone know how low these cantalevers hang BELOW the bottom of the frame rails. If its more than 3" than i don't think this will work for me. :-(
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We just finished a frame for a guy with a KP 6 lnk in the back frame was on the ground and there wasn't any clearence problems. the only part you should have to clear would be the end of the bar and the hanger as the rest of the bar goes from there. Unfortunatly the guy already picked up the truck so I have nothing check right now. Of course once he changes his wheels it won't lay but that what he wanted couldn't get him to go for a dropmember ( sorry Nathan) but I've got a guy with a 64 panel thats showing some promise.
Anyway Clint would have a better idea than I would thats just my 2 cents.
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Thanks clint for the watts link , nice work .Sorry we haven't worked on the truck for a while ,I well be at nates this week to help out a little with some stuff and will get some work on the white truck and get some pics , WE have all the parts, any luck with that c4 stuff?

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Re: Street Rod Sugar Daddy (Dino63's 78 C-10)

Heres a question someone can answer, now im going to purchase the 4 link, Cantilever kit for the rear and the front drop member, now heres what im curious can I use the Watts Link in the rear with the 4 link and Canti setup?
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Heres a question someone can answer, now im going to purchase the 4 link, Cantilever kit for the rear and the front drop member, now heres what im curious can I use the Watts Link in the rear with the 4 link and Canti setup?
Since KP's 4link in this kit is of a "parallel" design and the cantilever is as well you will still need something to restrict side to side axle movement. A pan hard would work but would pull the axle off center as it swung through it's arc as ride height changed.This can be minimized by using the max length bar that will fit.
The Watts is the superior but slightly more expensive route do to it's more complex design. It will allow full range of motion with minimal, if any, side to side movement.
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