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HvyChevy454 · 07-28-2002, 11:42 AM

ok i plan to go to my first show next weekend but i need to fill in some chips in the paint. also i know after painting you need to wetsand and buff. we had to respray the front due to a run in the paint that got sanded to far down. now ther is a seem and a little bit of orange peel from the over spray somehow. my friend was suposed to show me how to and help buff and clean up the paint. i have the paint, along w/ a can marked 50% activator and another can marked 30% hardener. how to i mix there to fill in the chips in the paint?

also i know that i need to wet sand the paint and buff it to get the glossy finish but what grit paper 1500? then how do i buff i dotn use polish and rag do i? What kind of compound to do i need.
I need to get this doen this week so i will be able to go to my 1st show and its a big one too so i realy dotn wanna miss it and my g/f grandparents club promotes the show, so really i cant miss it!

Any help would be greatly appreciated

HvyChevy454 · 07-28-2002, 06:39 PM

ttt im running short on time so if anybody can help w/ the knowhow it would be greatly appreciated

orange72 · 07-28-2002, 10:28 PM

man i hate to see your question go unanswered so im gonna say something so itll get moved back to the front. then it might get noticed again. later

Solver · 07-28-2002, 10:52 PM

ttt like to hear a professional answer also

HvyChevy454 · 07-29-2002, 10:24 AM

i really do to!

My g/f got me an Indy Originals Vinyl cover as an early b-day present for the show this weekend. i love her.

really i need to know after wetsanding what kind of compound and what tool should i use to do the buffing?

HuggerCST · 07-29-2002, 11:08 AM

I'm no pro, but I've done this a few times. What kind of paint? I'm guessing single stage, since you did'nt mention clear. Mix your paint like you were planning to spray it. Sounds like probably a 10 to 5 to 3 mix. (paint to recucer to hardener). You won't need to mix up much, as little as possible. Clean the wax and dirt out of your chipped spots. I use wax and grease remover, but reducer will work too. Take a small paint brush, or fingernail polish brush, and touch up the chips. This is a little trickier if it's a metallic. You may have to put a couple of coats to build it up enough. Let it dry overnight. Take 1500 or 2000 grit paper,(I use 1500) and wet-sand the painted spots with a small sanding block. when it's level enough, buff it out with a foam pad and polishing compound, or by hand. Hand polishing may take a while, but it can be done. That's the way I do it, and it works for me. It also works with clearcoats. If it's not metallic, you usually cant tell where the chip was. There is also a good article on colorsanding and buffing in the paint and body section.

HvyChevy454 · 07-29-2002, 05:56 PM

any type of polish works. i tried mequires polish w/ a terry cloth on one of the spots that had allready been wet sanded and i could not get it to shine, you could still see that it was rough. but this was all by hand, to use a machine do you mount a foam pad to an angle grinder? if so who would sell em?

gizmo · 07-29-2002, 06:19 PM

Form what I know it depends on the paint. I used PPG Concept/Urethane and I mixed it 4 parts paint, 1 part reducer and 2 parts hardener. It also depends on what hardener you use. The information that you are looking for should be marked on the side of the paint can. I hope that this information helps.

HvyChevy454 · 07-31-2002, 03:34 PM

im good on the mixing part now and the applying but i need to know how after wetsanding to buff it back to a shine?

my new 72 · 07-31-2002, 03:44 PM

Do not use an angle grinder to buff with. You will end up burning a j=hole thru the paint. The rpm are way too high. Just go aout and buy a decent buffer from autozone.

HuggerCST · 07-31-2002, 03:50 PM

Did you see this article? http://goodspeedmotoring.com/?page=color_sanding

HvyChevy454 · 07-31-2002, 04:58 PM

hugger that is exactly what i was looking for

07-28-2002, 11:42 AM	#1
HvyChevy454 Slowly getting CRSS... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lutz, Florida Posts: 656	Finishing paint question! ok i plan to go to my first show next weekend but i need to fill in some chips in the paint. also i know after painting you need to wetsand and buff. we had to respray the front due to a run in the paint that got sanded to far down. now ther is a seem and a little bit of orange peel from the over spray somehow. my friend was suposed to show me how to and help buff and clean up the paint. i have the paint, along w/ a can marked 50% activator and another can marked 30% hardener. how to i mix there to fill in the chips in the paint? also i know that i need to wet sand the paint and buff it to get the glossy finish but what grit paper 1500? then how do i buff i dotn use polish and rag do i? What kind of compound to do i need. I need to get this doen this week so i will be able to go to my 1st show and its a big one too so i realy dotn wanna miss it and my g/f grandparents club promotes the show, so really i cant miss it! Any help would be greatly appreciated __________________ -Nic Lutz, Fl My Team Website The Heavy Chevy Website ------------------ 72 Cheyenne 10 LWB GM 12-bolt 3.08 w/ Auburn Posi 91 454 Edel Performer RPM Intake 750 cfm carb Comp Cam 268/.495 Hedman Headers Dual 3'' Exhaust 71 Cheyenne 20 4x4 Fact. A/C PS PB Tilt Currently in the works... Speak Softly and Carry A Big Block... There is No replacement for Displacement... "If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough." - Mario Andretti

07-28-2002, 06:39 PM	#2
HvyChevy454 Slowly getting CRSS... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lutz, Florida Posts: 656	ttt im running short on time so if anybody can help w/ the knowhow it would be greatly appreciated __________________ -Nic Lutz, Fl My Team Website The Heavy Chevy Website ------------------ 72 Cheyenne 10 LWB GM 12-bolt 3.08 w/ Auburn Posi 91 454 Edel Performer RPM Intake 750 cfm carb Comp Cam 268/.495 Hedman Headers Dual 3'' Exhaust 71 Cheyenne 20 4x4 Fact. A/C PS PB Tilt Currently in the works... Speak Softly and Carry A Big Block... There is No replacement for Displacement... "If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough." - Mario Andretti

07-28-2002, 10:28 PM	#3
orange72 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: huntington,texas,united states Posts: 399	man i hate to see your question go unanswered so im gonna say something so itll get moved back to the front. then it might get noticed again. later __________________ 1972 chevy long bed. Currently under construction!! Bagged, 383/700r4.

07-28-2002, 10:52 PM	#4
Solver Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Storm Lake, Ia Posts: 1,449	ttt like to hear a professional answer also __________________ 1972 Cheyenne Super 20 LWB-Blue 1972 Cheyenne Super 10 LWB-Black 1972 Cheyenne Super 10 LWB-Red 1972 Cheyenne Super 10 LWB-green 1972 GMC 4x4 LWB-White 1971 Cheyenne 10 LWB-Ochre 1971 Cheyenne 20 Longhorn-Copper 1971 Cheyenne 20 Longhorn-Black 1969 Custom 10 LWB-lt blue 1968 GMC 3/4 ton-green 1968 1/2 ton swb stepside-silver 1967 Chevrolet CST 10 LWB-green 1967 Chevrolet custom 20 LWB-Maroon

07-29-2002, 10:24 AM	#5
HvyChevy454 Slowly getting CRSS... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lutz, Florida Posts: 656	i really do to! My g/f got me an Indy Originals Vinyl cover as an early b-day present for the show this weekend. i love her. really i need to know after wetsanding what kind of compound and what tool should i use to do the buffing? __________________ -Nic Lutz, Fl My Team Website The Heavy Chevy Website ------------------ 72 Cheyenne 10 LWB GM 12-bolt 3.08 w/ Auburn Posi 91 454 Edel Performer RPM Intake 750 cfm carb Comp Cam 268/.495 Hedman Headers Dual 3'' Exhaust 71 Cheyenne 20 4x4 Fact. A/C PS PB Tilt Currently in the works... Speak Softly and Carry A Big Block... There is No replacement for Displacement... "If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough." - Mario Andretti Last edited by HvyChevy454; 07-29-2002 at 10:28 AM.

07-29-2002, 11:08 AM	#6
HuggerCST Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: North Louisiana Posts: 4,501	I'm no pro, but I've done this a few times. What kind of paint? I'm guessing single stage, since you did'nt mention clear. Mix your paint like you were planning to spray it. Sounds like probably a 10 to 5 to 3 mix. (paint to recucer to hardener). You won't need to mix up much, as little as possible. Clean the wax and dirt out of your chipped spots. I use wax and grease remover, but reducer will work too. Take a small paint brush, or fingernail polish brush, and touch up the chips. This is a little trickier if it's a metallic. You may have to put a couple of coats to build it up enough. Let it dry overnight. Take 1500 or 2000 grit paper,(I use 1500) and wet-sand the painted spots with a small sanding block. when it's level enough, buff it out with a foam pad and polishing compound, or by hand. Hand polishing may take a while, but it can be done. That's the way I do it, and it works for me. It also works with clearcoats. If it's not metallic, you usually cant tell where the chip was. There is also a good article on colorsanding and buffing in the paint and body section. __________________ Wynne 70 CST short fleet Hugger orange & white, 350/350, ps, pb, air, tilt, tach/vac/speedwarning, original buckets, AM/FM, oak bed floor, shoulder belts, 3.5"/5.5" drop, 20" American Racing VN425s. Build thread 53 Chevy shortbed 69 Camaro Click here to subscribe Chevy GMC International Truck Club Louisiana Charter Member http://www.louisianaclassictruckclub.com Last edited by HuggerCST; 07-29-2002 at 11:11 AM.

07-29-2002, 05:56 PM	#7
HvyChevy454 Slowly getting CRSS... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lutz, Florida Posts: 656	any type of polish works. i tried mequires polish w/ a terry cloth on one of the spots that had allready been wet sanded and i could not get it to shine, you could still see that it was rough. but this was all by hand, to use a machine do you mount a foam pad to an angle grinder? if so who would sell em? __________________ -Nic Lutz, Fl My Team Website The Heavy Chevy Website ------------------ 72 Cheyenne 10 LWB GM 12-bolt 3.08 w/ Auburn Posi 91 454 Edel Performer RPM Intake 750 cfm carb Comp Cam 268/.495 Hedman Headers Dual 3'' Exhaust 71 Cheyenne 20 4x4 Fact. A/C PS PB Tilt Currently in the works... Speak Softly and Carry A Big Block... There is No replacement for Displacement... "If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough." - Mario Andretti

07-29-2002, 06:19 PM	#8
gizmo 100% Beefcake Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: LaVale, Maryland Posts: 246	Form what I know it depends on the paint. I used PPG Concept/Urethane and I mixed it 4 parts paint, 1 part reducer and 2 parts hardener. It also depends on what hardener you use. The information that you are looking for should be marked on the side of the paint can. I hope that this information helps. __________________ 1969 C10,350,4:11 posi, Fast Enough 1984 Monte Carlo SS 1987 Chevy S-10, 355 w/150 Shot of Nitrous, Fun,Fun 1938 Nash Lafayette 1956 MG Magnette

07-31-2002, 03:34 PM	#9
HvyChevy454 Slowly getting CRSS... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lutz, Florida Posts: 656	im good on the mixing part now and the applying but i need to know how after wetsanding to buff it back to a shine? __________________ -Nic Lutz, Fl My Team Website The Heavy Chevy Website ------------------ 72 Cheyenne 10 LWB GM 12-bolt 3.08 w/ Auburn Posi 91 454 Edel Performer RPM Intake 750 cfm carb Comp Cam 268/.495 Hedman Headers Dual 3'' Exhaust 71 Cheyenne 20 4x4 Fact. A/C PS PB Tilt Currently in the works... Speak Softly and Carry A Big Block... There is No replacement for Displacement... "If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough." - Mario Andretti

07-31-2002, 03:44 PM	#10
my new 72 faster, faster, faster Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Houston ,Texas ,USA Posts: 1,354	Do not use an angle grinder to buff with. You will end up burning a j=hole thru the paint. The rpm are way too high. Just go aout and buy a decent buffer from autozone. __________________ I'm going to Law School, wanna debate? It's good practice.

07-31-2002, 03:50 PM	#11
HuggerCST Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: North Louisiana Posts: 4,501	Did you see this article? http://goodspeedmotoring.com/?page=color_sanding __________________ Wynne 70 CST short fleet Hugger orange & white, 350/350, ps, pb, air, tilt, tach/vac/speedwarning, original buckets, AM/FM, oak bed floor, shoulder belts, 3.5"/5.5" drop, 20" American Racing VN425s. Build thread 53 Chevy shortbed 69 Camaro Click here to subscribe Chevy GMC International Truck Club Louisiana Charter Member http://www.louisianaclassictruckclub.com

07-31-2002, 04:58 PM	#12
HvyChevy454 Slowly getting CRSS... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lutz, Florida Posts: 656	hugger that is exactly what i was looking for __________________ -Nic Lutz, Fl My Team Website The Heavy Chevy Website ------------------ 72 Cheyenne 10 LWB GM 12-bolt 3.08 w/ Auburn Posi 91 454 Edel Performer RPM Intake 750 cfm carb Comp Cam 268/.495 Hedman Headers Dual 3'' Exhaust 71 Cheyenne 20 4x4 Fact. A/C PS PB Tilt Currently in the works... Speak Softly and Carry A Big Block... There is No replacement for Displacement... "If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough." - Mario Andretti



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