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JMD 10-25-2020 11:17 PM

Engine running too cool
 
Hi all,
I have a MarkIV 454 in my ‘68 K10. It has a 180* thermostat, cheap 2 core radiator, and 2 temperature sending units on the back of the intake manifold. Now that the weather has cooled way off, I’ve noticed that the engine temp is dropping down to 140-150* at highway speeds. If the truck is just idling in park it will warm up to 180+ but it takes a very long time. I don’t believe it’s a sending unit issue because both gauges read within 5* of each other at all times.

I’m guessing the thermostat is stuck open, but before I go through the hassle of ripping into and replacing the thermostat I wanted a second opinion. Thoughts?

Stocker 10-26-2020 12:37 AM

Re: Engine running too cool
 
My guess is same as yours -- t-stat stuck open. Check the specs for that engine though, I suspect a 180* might be too cool. A 190* or better yet a 195* might be a better choice, especially in Michigan in winter. And it won't make your engine overheat in summer.

gmc684x4 10-26-2020 12:38 AM

Re: Engine running too cool
 
It can also be your electric fan on to much as well as a stuck tsat
my trucks only get a 195 stat year around

BigBird05 10-26-2020 09:27 AM

Re: Engine running too cool
 
180 Deg stat was the norm for years. Then it was raised to reduce emissions.

geezer#99 10-26-2020 09:41 AM

Re: Engine running too cool
 
If you have two temperature sending units in the back of the intake are you sure you’re not running way hotter than what your gauge says.

72c20customcamper 10-26-2020 09:51 AM

Re: Engine running too cool
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geezer#99 (Post 8827353)
If you have two temperature sending units in the back of the intake are you sure you’re not running way hotter than what your gauge says.

I agree . I have all the mechanical sensors in the head , temps can be 20 to 30 degrees hotter in the head . My Chevelle reads 205 when the electric fans kick in they are Controlled by a sensor in the radiator that kicks on the fans at 195 water temp .

JMD 10-26-2020 08:46 PM

Re: Engine running too cool
 
Where is the stock sending unit location? If I understand the cooling system correctly, there shouldn’t be any coolant flowing through the upper radiator hose until the thermostat has opened. So if the thermostat is stuck open and I start the truck after it’s been sitting all night, I should feel coolant moving through the upper radiator hose, right?

LockDoc 10-27-2020 12:03 AM

Re: Engine running too cool
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JMD (Post 8827686)
Where is the stock sending unit location? If I understand the cooling system correctly, there shouldn’t be any coolant flowing through the upper radiator hose until the thermostat has opened. So if the thermostat is stuck open and I start the truck after it’s been sitting all night, I should feel coolant moving through the upper radiator hose, right?


Driver side head by #1 plug.

LockDoc

WorkinLonghorn 10-27-2020 12:13 AM

Re: Engine running too cool
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JMD (Post 8827686)
Where is the stock sending unit location? If I understand the cooling system correctly, there shouldn’t be any coolant flowing through the upper radiator hose until the thermostat has opened. So if the thermostat is stuck open and I start the truck after it’s been sitting all night, I should feel coolant moving through the upper radiator hose, right?

Correct. You will feel it getting warm way before the 180° is reached.

Steeveedee 10-27-2020 10:37 PM

Re: Engine running too cool
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LockDoc (Post 8827769)
Driver side head by #1 plug.

LockDoc

That's on an SBC, right? Because my (70) BBC has the temp sender on the passenger's side, and the wiring appears to be stock.

LockDoc 10-27-2020 11:33 PM

Re: Engine running too cool
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steeveedee (Post 8828171)
That's on an SBC, right? Because my (70) BBC has the temp sender on the passenger's side, and the wiring appears to be stock.


Yup, Brain fart on my part...:)..:(

LockDoc

Steeveedee 10-27-2020 11:54 PM

Re: Engine running too cool
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LockDoc (Post 8828198)
Yup, Brain fart on my part...:)..:(

LockDoc

Well, I never noticed that the sender was on the driver's side on the SBC, so there you go. :lol: And to think that I worked on these things for many years. I worked for my BiL starting at age 15 ('67) on the weekends doing basic mechanical work. I know that they were all pretty much stock in those days, and we only fixed things, and didn't do anything custom.

geezer#99 10-28-2020 09:00 AM

Re: Engine running too cool
 
Do a search Steve.
Some bbc had the temp sensor between #3 and #5.
69 L78 did.
Factory valve covers had a clip on them to hold the wire for the sensor.

The tall deck motors had it too.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=437017


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