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Btc10 · 12-04-2011, 06:37 PM

I have a 1970 c10 truck with manual drum brakes and my brake shoes and hardware are not put on right. I need four pictures of each brake drum that are put on right. If somebody could send me pictures that would be great.

vectorit · 12-04-2011, 06:43 PM

Here is a good photo set for you:

http://www.pbase.com/nufsed/drumbrake

Btc10 · 12-04-2011, 06:48 PM

Thank you! Do you have any pictures for the front drums?

vectorit · 12-04-2011, 08:04 PM

Front drums go the same way pretty much.

Btc10 · 12-04-2011, 09:49 PM

Oh okay thank you for the info I appreciate it.

68gmsee · 12-05-2011, 12:38 AM

Here's a pic of front brakes.

oldblue1968chevy · 12-05-2011, 01:31 PM

Yeah that link rocks lol drum brakes are hard the first couple times lol

scottmitchellrose · 09-08-2016, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Btc10

I have a 1970 c10 truck with manual drum brakes and my brake shoes and hardware are not put on right. I need four pictures of each brake drum that are put on right. If somebody could send me pictures that would be great.

Anyone have similar photos for a 61

mooseboy84 · 09-08-2016, 11:58 AM

Two bits of advice. Get a drum brake tool/spring return, and wear EYE protection. Messing around with pliers and all that is dangerous and so easy to really scratch yourself up or take an eye out. It can be done with pliers, but alot easier and less frustration with a tool and dont forget EYE PROTECTION!

projectking · 09-08-2016, 12:17 PM

+1 invest in a drum tool!

hops · 09-08-2016, 02:00 PM

I couldn't figure out how to use the tool to replace the springs. I are dumb, I guess.
I used a t handle spring tool, used on motorcycles and atv exhaust.

kda2000 · 09-08-2016, 04:33 PM

I have found the "tool" for drum brakes to be very hard to use. I just did all four of my drum brakes and all I used was a small vice grips. To remove the springs just clamp it tight up by the hooks, at a 90 degree angle, and stretch them and unhook -- the springs are not that strong. For the shoe keeps (the slotted washer), I used the same vice grips to grab the edge of the washer straight-on (just enough to hold them) and then hold the pin from behind, push in and do a half twist. The special tool doesn't always grab when you twist. -- putting them together is just the same, in reverse. I actually did each one several times (for various reasons, like the new parking brake cables were the wrong length), I've gotten real good at it after doing 8 of them

Hope this helps, Ken

projectking · 09-08-2016, 07:14 PM

Might have picked up a cheap pair? Mine work great.

hops · 09-08-2016, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by projectking

Might have picked up a cheap pair? Mine work great.

Probably. I acquired them from my dad. But that link saved my butt.

speesh · 09-09-2016, 11:13 PM

I do it the same way as kda2000, after much trial and error and attempts to use the special tool I found this method is quite simple and safe and actually easy.

Baddflash · 09-10-2016, 10:49 AM

Something I found made installing the springs a lot easier, after my car accident I needed to make things easier.

Old drum I cut the face off of, worked well.

Bullhead556 · 08-20-2022, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baddflash

Something I found made installing the springs a lot easier, after my car accident I needed to make things easier.

Old drum I cut the face off of, worked well.

That is a very goooood idea!THANKS

Rodie40 · 10-03-2016, 09:46 PM

So there are "two" sizes of shoes? The larger always go towards the rear and the shorter (Seems like two different sizes?) go towards the front? Is this correct? (They are all setup the same way.)

jescates · 10-06-2016, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rodie40

So there are "two" sizes of shoes? The larger always go towards the rear and the shorter (Seems like two different sizes?) go towards the front? Is this correct? (They are all setup the same way.)

That was how mine were, and I put new shoes on the same way. My 1970 shop manual also shows the larger on the aft side!

saxart · 10-06-2016, 09:44 PM

Something many people forget is to wear eye-protection when rebuilding drum brakes. Those springs will go flyin!

**gmc 2500 4x4** · 10-08-2016, 02:47 PM

my book says primary and secondary for the hold down springs, they are different so which goes where? primary hold down the rear shoe on the fronts?

B. W. · 10-08-2016, 04:16 PM

Primary shoes (shorter lining) always face forward. The brake system on these trucks is a " duo -servo" system which is a fancy way of saying that the front (short) shoe is used to "jam the rear shoe (secondary) against the anchor pin & against the drum making the brakes more effective. Some brake systems are "single acting" brakes. The brakes on these systems are anchored opposite from the wheel cylinder (usually on the bottom) and both brake linings on the front & rear shoes are the same length. The shoes simply pivot out when the brakes are applied

Got long winded there, if one anchor spring is shorter it goes on the rear shoe. It is shorter because it is also retaining the self adjuster arm.

**gmc 2500 4x4** · 10-08-2016, 04:22 PM

thanx bw, my truck been apart a long while and cant find my hardware either. i just went thru this with the rear dana 60. i have 12'' brakes. i need both adjuster wheel springs and both small return springs. gonna post a pic on the wanted side

B. W. · 10-09-2016, 11:40 AM

I have the 12" brakes also, here are some part #'s:

Brake shoe set CQ S127
Brake Hose, Rear CQ SP4999
wheel cylinder, left CQ WCA34474
wheel cylinder, right CQ WCA34475
hardware kit
adjuster kit, left H2554
adjuster kit, right CQ H2555
Spring, transfer bar CQ 1338-2A
adjuster screw, left CQ 1530
adjuster screw, right CQ 1531
Parking brake cable set Inline Tube BST6943
brake drum CQ 8911

CQ is Car Quest, if you get the adjuster kit the adjuster screw comes with it. I have the hardware kit but did not record the P/N, will check this on Monday

**gmc 2500 4x4** · 10-09-2016, 12:00 PM

These are front brake numbers?

12-04-2011, 06:37 PM	#1
Btc10 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Joshua, Texas Posts: 60	Drum Brake shoes and hardware setup pictures I have a 1970 c10 truck with manual drum brakes and my brake shoes and hardware are not put on right. I need four pictures of each brake drum that are put on right. If somebody could send me pictures that would be great.

12-04-2011, 06:43 PM	#2
vectorit What? Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Southern California Posts: 7,617	Re: Drum Brake shoes and hardware setup pictures Here is a good photo set for you: http://www.pbase.com/nufsed/drumbrake __________________ Chris 1968 K20 Suburban 1972 K10 LWB PU

12-04-2011, 06:48 PM	#3
Btc10 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Joshua, Texas Posts: 60	Re: Drum Brake shoes and hardware setup pictures Thank you! Do you have any pictures for the front drums?

12-04-2011, 08:04 PM	#4
vectorit What? Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Southern California Posts: 7,617	Re: Drum Brake shoes and hardware setup pictures Front drums go the same way pretty much. __________________ Chris 1968 K20 Suburban 1972 K10 LWB PU

12-04-2011, 09:49 PM	#5
Btc10 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Joshua, Texas Posts: 60	Re: Drum Brake shoes and hardware setup pictures Oh okay thank you for the info I appreciate it.

12-05-2011, 12:38 AM	#6
68gmsee Active Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Centrally located between Houston, Austin and Waco. BCS area. Posts: 7,947	Re: Drum Brake shoes and hardware setup pictures Here's a pic of front brakes. Attached Images

12-05-2011, 01:31 PM	#7
oldblue1968chevy Grandpa in the rustmobile... Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Spokane WA/Viola TN Posts: 11,422	Re: Drum Brake shoes and hardware setup pictures Yeah that link rocks lol drum brakes are hard the first couple times lol __________________ John Goose-1968 C10 355,9.32-1CR, Vortec Heads ,262 voodoo, 3.73:1 3OTT (HS ride/beater/farm truck) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=317684 Grams 53-1953 Chevrolet Belair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post4327784 1969 Chevy C10 Shortbed 4.5/6?" Frame off resto http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=548136 1999 Toyota Tacoma 4x4

09-08-2016, 11:58 AM	#9
mooseboy84 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Bay Area Posts: 35	Re: Drum Brake shoes and hardware setup pictures Two bits of advice. Get a drum brake tool/spring return, and wear EYE protection. Messing around with pliers and all that is dangerous and so easy to really scratch yourself up or take an eye out. It can be done with pliers, but alot easier and less frustration with a tool and dont forget EYE PROTECTION!

09-08-2016, 12:17 PM	#10
projectking Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Orland Park Il Posts: 2,041	Re: Drum Brake shoes and hardware setup pictures +1 invest in a drum tool! __________________ 68 GMC C3500 Longhorn DRW 67 Chevy C10 LWB 90 Mustang Gt 90 Mustang Notchback

09-08-2016, 02:00 PM	#11
hops Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 41	Re: Drum Brake shoes and hardware setup pictures I couldn't figure out how to use the tool to replace the springs. I are dumb, I guess. I used a t handle spring tool, used on motorcycles and atv exhaust.

09-08-2016, 04:33 PM	#12
kda2000 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 170	Re: Drum Brake shoes and hardware setup pictures I have found the "tool" for drum brakes to be very hard to use. I just did all four of my drum brakes and all I used was a small vice grips. To remove the springs just clamp it tight up by the hooks, at a 90 degree angle, and stretch them and unhook -- the springs are not that strong. For the shoe keeps (the slotted washer), I used the same vice grips to grab the edge of the washer straight-on (just enough to hold them) and then hold the pin from behind, push in and do a half twist. The special tool doesn't always grab when you twist. -- putting them together is just the same, in reverse. I actually did each one several times (for various reasons, like the new parking brake cables were the wrong length), I've gotten real good at it after doing 8 of them Hope this helps, Ken

09-08-2016, 07:14 PM	#13
projectking Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Orland Park Il Posts: 2,041	Re: Drum Brake shoes and hardware setup pictures Might have picked up a cheap pair? Mine work great. __________________ 68 GMC C3500 Longhorn DRW 67 Chevy C10 LWB 90 Mustang Gt 90 Mustang Notchback

09-09-2016, 11:13 PM	#15
speesh Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Ridgecrest, CA Posts: 318	Re: Drum Brake shoes and hardware setup pictures I do it the same way as kda2000, after much trial and error and attempts to use the special tool I found this method is quite simple and safe and actually easy. __________________ 57 suburban(sitting in the driveway), 2 69 C20 longbeds (sitting in the field ) and a 2003 8.1 Suburban Endeavor to persevere. "All of a sudden, I'm the old timer!" Some old timer on American Pickers.

09-10-2016, 10:49 AM	#16
Baddflash Registered User Join Date: May 2015 Location: Edmonton,Alberta, Canada Posts: 103	Re: Drum Brake shoes and hardware setup pictures Something I found made installing the springs a lot easier, after my car accident I needed to make things easier. Old drum I cut the face off of, worked well.

10-03-2016, 09:46 PM	#18
Rodie40 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 6	Re: Drum Brake shoes and hardware setup pictures So there are "two" sizes of shoes? The larger always go towards the rear and the shorter (Seems like two different sizes?) go towards the front? Is this correct? (They are all setup the same way.) Attached Images __________________ 1966 Chevelle SS 396 1970 C-10 project (for sale) 1984 Chevy C30 Ramp truck My YouTube



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10-06-2016, 09:44 PM	#20
saxart Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: St. Croix River Valley, WI Posts: 795	Re: Drum Brake shoes and hardware setup pictures Something many people forget is to wear eye-protection when rebuilding drum brakes. Those springs will go flyin! __________________ Meet "Old Roy": http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=707801

10-08-2016, 02:47 PM	#21
gmc 2500 4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: ripley ny Posts: 2,894	Re: Drum Brake shoes and hardware setup pictures my book says primary and secondary for the hold down springs, they are different so which goes where? primary hold down the rear shoe on the fronts?

10-08-2016, 04:16 PM	#22
B. W. Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Bigfork, Montana Posts: 1,137	Re: Drum Brake shoes and hardware setup pictures Primary shoes (shorter lining) always face forward. The brake system on these trucks is a " duo -servo" system which is a fancy way of saying that the front (short) shoe is used to "jam the rear shoe (secondary) against the anchor pin & against the drum making the brakes more effective. Some brake systems are "single acting" brakes. The brakes on these systems are anchored opposite from the wheel cylinder (usually on the bottom) and both brake linings on the front & rear shoes are the same length. The shoes simply pivot out when the brakes are applied Got long winded there, if one anchor spring is shorter it goes on the rear shoe. It is shorter because it is also retaining the self adjuster arm.

10-08-2016, 04:22 PM	#23
gmc 2500 4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: ripley ny Posts: 2,894	Re: Drum Brake shoes and hardware setup pictures thanx bw, my truck been apart a long while and cant find my hardware either. i just went thru this with the rear dana 60. i have 12'' brakes. i need both adjuster wheel springs and both small return springs. gonna post a pic on the wanted side

10-09-2016, 11:40 AM	#24
B. W. Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Bigfork, Montana Posts: 1,137	Re: Drum Brake shoes and hardware setup pictures I have the 12" brakes also, here are some part #'s: Brake shoe set CQ S127 Brake Hose, Rear CQ SP4999 wheel cylinder, left CQ WCA34474 wheel cylinder, right CQ WCA34475 hardware kit adjuster kit, left H2554 adjuster kit, right CQ H2555 Spring, transfer bar CQ 1338-2A adjuster screw, left CQ 1530 adjuster screw, right CQ 1531 Parking brake cable set Inline Tube BST6943 brake drum CQ 8911 CQ is Car Quest, if you get the adjuster kit the adjuster screw comes with it. I have the hardware kit but did not record the P/N, will check this on Monday

10-09-2016, 12:00 PM	#25
gmc 2500 4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: ripley ny Posts: 2,894	Re: Drum Brake shoes and hardware setup pictures These are front brake numbers?

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