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403oldsman · 01-09-2007, 05:24 PM

Is there anyway to modify a gov locker in a 14bolt ff axle to operate like any other locker.
Thanks
Mark

b454rat · 01-09-2007, 06:26 PM

Umm, not that I know of. Get and open carrier and get a Detroit.

DieselEater · 01-09-2007, 07:49 PM

Get a mini-spool...its less than half the cost of a Detroit. Not only that, a Detroit locks up so fast anyway it chirps on street corners. I'm a truck puller, and have heard of Detroits blowing up...but, never a spool.

Southedisto · 01-09-2007, 10:53 PM

One of the lunch box lockers fit in the gov carrier, quick lok may be the name of it.

**Zoomad75** · 01-10-2007, 12:04 AM

I havent heard of a lunch box locker that fits in a gov lock carrier. Then again, the detroit locker for a 14b looks a heck of a lot like any other lunch box locker since it replaces the spider gears on an open carrier.

Run the gov bomb until it blows and have an open carrier/detroit waiting to install.

1969 GMC · 01-10-2007, 03:38 AM

to answer your original question, you can weld it up so it acts like a locker

at my old job, had a fragged 14 bolt gov lock under a C30 dump truck. when it went, the carrier was so scarred i dont know if i would want to use it again. the dealership didnt reuse it when they re did the axle, but of course they dont make any $$$ by reusing the old.

i would just echo to find an open carrier and use your insert of choice (detroit, lock right, mini spool).

1969K10 · 01-10-2007, 11:29 AM

[QUOTE=1969 GMC;1979040i would just echo to find an open carrier and use your insert of choice (detroit, lock right, mini spool).[/QUOTE]

Any leads on where to find those products? I've also got one of these that needs over-hauled. - THX

403oldsman · 01-10-2007, 12:45 PM

I think the problem is with a lunch boxs locker going into a 14b ff gov lock carrier is the that the gov lock has 3 spider gears as compared to a open carrier with 4 spider gears.
The clutch plates don't look bad but they don't last as long a regular locker.
This is a rear axle for my bothers truck he's converting to a 3/4. The gears are 3.73. Will all the other 14bolt carriers cross to it or does he need a 3.73 carrier. If he does i guess he not out much he only paid $50 for the axle anyway.

Another question is my truck 71 chevy 1/2 ton 4x4 has a factory locker (i think) in the rear. What type of locker is that. It chatters when i turn and it never lets just one wheel spin even it its up in the air. Both wheels spin when i have the rear off the ground, and i cant hold one and spin the other one.

Thanks
Mark

**Yukon Jack** · 01-10-2007, 06:31 PM

The 71's locker should be a No-Spin which is a Detroit Locker.

1969 GMC · 01-11-2007, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yukon Jack

The 71's locker should be a No-Spin which is a Detroit Locker.

Mark, I would normally agree except he said half ton. That means a 12 bolt and some sort of posi, not a true locker. I am not too familiar with posis, but I *think* those can be rebuilt with new clutch packs.

403oldsman · 01-11-2007, 10:53 AM

My rear axle is a 12 bolt but i am sure that its a locker by how it acts, but i could be wrong. Both of my cars have posi rear axles and i can jack up one wheel and spin it by hand, but on pavement they will leave two black marks from the start. The pick up i cant spin the wheel it i jack it up in the air. the only way is to jack up both back wheels.

1969 GMC · 01-11-2007, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 403oldsman

My rear axle is a 12 bolt but i am sure that its a locker by how it acts, but i could be wrong. Both of my cars have posi rear axles and i can jack up one wheel and spin it by hand, but on pavement they will leave two black marks from the start. The pick up i cant spin the wheel it i jack it up in the air. the only way is to jack up both back wheels.

I'm sorry, sometimes I get stuck in "factory original" mode. It's quite possible someone put a locker into it, but it wasnt the factory. You have to take off the diff cover to find out exactly what it is.

**Yukon Jack** · 01-11-2007, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1969 GMC

Mark, I would normally agree except he said half ton. That means a 12 bolt and some sort of posi, not a true locker. I am not too familiar with posis, but I *think* those can be rebuilt with new clutch packs.

Gotcha, I was stuck in the 3/4 ton mindset.

01-09-2007, 05:24 PM	#1
403oldsman Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Van Horne, Iowa Posts: 46	14 bolt gov locker Is there anyway to modify a gov locker in a 14bolt ff axle to operate like any other locker. Thanks Mark __________________ THERE is NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT 1971 CHEVY 4X4 4SPD 406 CHEVY Lockers front and back 1978 BONNEVILLE 403 OLDS 1985 K1500 F5L912 Deutz Power (work in progress) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=389561 1963 Oliver 1600 diesel 1956 Oliver Super 88

01-09-2007, 06:26 PM	#2
b454rat Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 3,454	Re: 14 bolt gov locker Umm, not that I know of. Get and open carrier and get a Detroit. __________________ 2000 GMC CCSB 454/4L80 6” lift SAS 1999 Chevy CCSB 454/NV4500 6” lift 1999 GMC Yukon 350/4L60 4" SAS

01-09-2007, 07:49 PM	#3
DieselEater Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Trinidad, Colorado Posts: 642	Re: 14 bolt gov locker Get a mini-spool...its less than half the cost of a Detroit. Not only that, a Detroit locks up so fast anyway it chirps on street corners. I'm a truck puller, and have heard of Detroits blowing up...but, never a spool.

01-09-2007, 10:53 PM	#4
Southedisto River life...... Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Orangeburg SC Posts: 1,078	Re: 14 bolt gov locker One of the lunch box lockers fit in the gov carrier, quick lok may be the name of it. __________________ I like wheelin in Dixie!

01-10-2007, 12:04 AM	#5
Zoomad75 K5Camper Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Pueblo, CO Posts: 1,513	Re: 14 bolt gov locker I havent heard of a lunch box locker that fits in a gov lock carrier. Then again, the detroit locker for a 14b looks a heck of a lot like any other lunch box locker since it replaces the spider gears on an open carrier. Run the gov bomb until it blows and have an open carrier/detroit waiting to install. __________________ Rob Z. 1975 K5 350/465/205/D44/12b 4" lift on 35's- RIP 1991 K5 8.1L/NV4500/241/D44/14b FWC Camper

01-10-2007, 03:38 AM	#6
1969 GMC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Rubber City Posts: 5,498	Re: 14 bolt gov locker to answer your original question, you can weld it up so it acts like a locker at my old job, had a fragged 14 bolt gov lock under a C30 dump truck. when it went, the carrier was so scarred i dont know if i would want to use it again. the dealership didnt reuse it when they re did the axle, but of course they dont make any $$$ by reusing the old. i would just echo to find an open carrier and use your insert of choice (detroit, lock right, mini spool). __________________ 1969 GMC K2500 1996 Honda Accord 2007 Kawasaki KLR 650

01-10-2007, 11:29 AM	#7
1969K10 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Clarks Hill, Indiana Posts: 733	Re: 14 bolt gov locker [QUOTE=1969 GMC;1979040i would just echo to find an open carrier and use your insert of choice (detroit, lock right, mini spool).[/QUOTE] Any leads on where to find those products? I've also got one of these that needs over-hauled. - THX __________________ 1969 K10 - V8, 465, 205, 12 bolt, D44 2002-current 1969 K20 - V8, 465, 221, Eaton, D44 2012-current Nothin' but drums on all 4 corners! past horses in the stable 72 C10-short step (97-02), 68 C10-long fleet (06-12)

01-10-2007, 12:45 PM	#8
403oldsman Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Van Horne, Iowa Posts: 46	Re: 14 bolt gov locker I think the problem is with a lunch boxs locker going into a 14b ff gov lock carrier is the that the gov lock has 3 spider gears as compared to a open carrier with 4 spider gears. The clutch plates don't look bad but they don't last as long a regular locker. This is a rear axle for my bothers truck he's converting to a 3/4. The gears are 3.73. Will all the other 14bolt carriers cross to it or does he need a 3.73 carrier. If he does i guess he not out much he only paid $50 for the axle anyway. Another question is my truck 71 chevy 1/2 ton 4x4 has a factory locker (i think) in the rear. What type of locker is that. It chatters when i turn and it never lets just one wheel spin even it its up in the air. Both wheels spin when i have the rear off the ground, and i cant hold one and spin the other one. Thanks Mark __________________ THERE is NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT 1971 CHEVY 4X4 4SPD 406 CHEVY Lockers front and back 1978 BONNEVILLE 403 OLDS 1985 K1500 F5L912 Deutz Power (work in progress) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=389561 1963 Oliver 1600 diesel 1956 Oliver Super 88

01-10-2007, 06:31 PM	#9
Yukon Jack Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA Posts: 12,683	Re: 14 bolt gov locker The 71's locker should be a No-Spin which is a Detroit Locker. __________________ 1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift 1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile 2012 Kawasaki Concours 14

01-11-2007, 10:53 AM	#11
403oldsman Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Van Horne, Iowa Posts: 46	Re: 14 bolt gov locker My rear axle is a 12 bolt but i am sure that its a locker by how it acts, but i could be wrong. Both of my cars have posi rear axles and i can jack up one wheel and spin it by hand, but on pavement they will leave two black marks from the start. The pick up i cant spin the wheel it i jack it up in the air. the only way is to jack up both back wheels. __________________ THERE is NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT 1971 CHEVY 4X4 4SPD 406 CHEVY Lockers front and back 1978 BONNEVILLE 403 OLDS 1985 K1500 F5L912 Deutz Power (work in progress) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=389561 1963 Oliver 1600 diesel 1956 Oliver Super 88



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