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08-21-2011, 12:25 AM | #26 |
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Re: Making a trailer from a Pickup
I have built hundreds of these trailers. I personally use a 3/4 ton with coil springs with a hydraulic dumping bed. I have hauled 5000lbs of gravel in it. With a coil spring trailer, you need to have good shocks or it will sway all over the road. For best performance, cut your axle shafts off and bolt the end plates back on. Next, remove your dana 60 3rd member and weld a plate to cover the opening. Add gear oil to keep your hubs lubed. You now have a full floating straight axle. With an eaton axle, you can simply buy an additional pumkin cover and use that to cover the opening instead of having to weld a plate. You can also sell the eaton 3rd member for $100- $150 which will cover all costs to construct the trailer.
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08-21-2011, 09:13 AM | #27 | |
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Re: Making a trailer from a Pickup
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No brakes won't be an issue when pulling this with the 2500hd but I will be pulling this on occasion with my honda Pilot and lets face it, its not a real truck and could benefit from brakes, especially with the traffic in the minneapolis area. This trailer has new brake lines and non rusty parts. I bolted on a standard coupler for now and will see how she works before buying a hydraulic actuator.
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08-21-2011, 09:20 AM | #28 | |
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Re: Making a trailer from a Pickup
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Got the wiring hooked up. Sure is easy to use the original lights and they are nice! Now if I could incoorporate the backup lights that would be awesome. Also tempted to hook up a hand parking brake on the tongue and use the parking brake feature too. I know some will say don't bother but why not if they are in good shape and stay that way since I won't use this in the winter and salt them up.
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08-21-2011, 10:46 AM | #29 |
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Re: Making a trailer from a Pickup
The axle end plate is part of the axle shafts. I just cut the shafts right by the plate and bolt the plate back on to seal the axle housing. I remove the eaton 3rd member for the purpose of selling the parts. I guess you can leave the pinion on a dana since it does not have much value for parts. If you step up to a 7 pole connector, you can use your reverse lights. I did that on my trailer because I needed the extra wires for the hydraulic dump. A member in Grass Valley, CA uses the 67-68 parking break for his trailer. I have not bothered to because I'm on flat ground; he lives up in the mountains. There are some old threads about these trailers and he has a pic of his e brake setup.
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09-29-2011, 01:55 PM | #30 |
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Re: Making a trailer from a Pickup
Thanks guys for the advice. I got it on the road and works great. I replaced the tailgate, rear bumper. I also redid the shocks and aired up the tires so it rides better than my standard 9' utility trailer now. The longer tongue makes it stable and ride better. Also removed the axles, redid the gaskets and put fresh gear lube in. Just need to straighten out the tailight area, mount the truck toolbox on front, and prime and paint everything. Oh, and maybe wire in the backup lights.
Got about 300 in parts it so far but Its capable of high speed cross country hauling heavy loads. Not too shabby if you ask me.
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10-02-2011, 09:15 AM | #31 |
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Re: Making a trailer from a Pickup
That looks great. I don't know enough about rear ends to totally get what you did. Guess Ill look at a parts break down of one so I can figure it out.
I'd really like to know the specifics about where you did your bends, how long is that extra bar you welded in for the tongue? Just a little more detail when you have a minute.
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10-02-2011, 10:36 AM | #32 |
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Re: Making a trailer from a Pickup
CG here's a link to building a truck bed trailer I ran across. Looks like a solid deal to me. Of course there are a number of ways to build the tongue.
I am saving a 97 truck to do just this with.
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10-02-2011, 06:37 PM | #33 | |
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10-02-2011, 09:47 PM | #34 |
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Re: Making a trailer from a Pickup
Now if you would just fix those tail light and back up lenses you will be set!
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10-04-2011, 02:17 PM | #35 | ||
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Re: Making a trailer from a Pickup
Eric, A nice guy stopped by on Saturday and helped me pull out the dents around the tailights
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I'll take some measurements on the bends and let you know. I don't know if its the best way, I just know it was pretty easy and this pulls great with no sway or hopping but I did put new shocks on also.
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10-04-2011, 08:06 PM | #36 | |
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10-08-2011, 11:33 PM | #37 | |
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I'm going to do the permanent wiring with some cord that runs through the rectangular tube tongue.
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10-08-2011, 11:37 PM | #38 |
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Re: Making a trailer from a Pickup
more pics. Tape is measuring from the box bracket edge in the 1st pic below
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10-09-2011, 02:12 AM | #39 |
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Re: Making a trailer from a Pickup
Thanks for the extra pics and info!
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10-09-2011, 06:18 AM | #40 |
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Re: Making a trailer from a Pickup
I picked up one of these long bed coil spring trailers... I just registered it on Friday. The guy I bought it from overloaded it and broke the panhard bar and the spring retaining plate... I hope to fix those two isses next week. I just need to find some tires....
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10-09-2011, 07:00 AM | #41 |
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Re: Making a trailer from a Pickup
Fine looking trailer you made there V W . Has anybody done this with a short-stepside bed w/o the extra room for a toolbox ? Also someone mentioned a " how to " link . I would hate to cut my frame too short . Thanks !
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10-09-2011, 11:08 AM | #42 |
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Re: Making a trailer from a Pickup
I think that was me. I should have gone back and put this in later. While V W's looks good there are several ways of going about it. I found this one some time back and liked it. Cannot deny it's strong.
And yes trailers have been made using short stepside beds. There is a member here with a real nice green one although i cannot remember his name at the moment. Maybe he'll see this and post it up for you. http://sweptline.com/blog/2009/01/20...-pickup-truck/
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11-01-2011, 10:04 PM | #43 |
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Re: Making a trailer from a Pickup
how do you license these trailers??? i have one made out of a 1970's ford pickup and im not sure how to register and license these. I live in colorado if that makes a difference.
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11-01-2011, 10:44 PM | #44 |
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Re: Making a trailer from a Pickup
Ya mean one of these?
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11-01-2011, 11:00 PM | #45 |
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I know its easier to maneuver with a longer tongue, but it seems if you get it too long you are going to lose stability without enough weight on the tongue. Trailer could get pretty squirrely back there.
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11-02-2011, 08:36 AM | #46 |
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Re: Making a trailer from a Pickup
Minnesota doesn't do anything special for these and they don't care about the Vin on there either. They had me register this with the standard utility trailer (less than 3500lbs) lifetime permanent registration. Your state may be different but it is pretty simple here, the only thing I had to submit was a form stating components and value of them so they could tax it appropriately Its nice I don't have to ever buy tabs or pay again though.
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