Is this Cheyenne on eBay a Fake??? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

Mapearso · 01-25-2015, 12:17 AM

The SPID sure looks funky to me....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/191491818407...8407&viewitem=

**jocko** · 01-25-2015, 12:29 AM

Not sure about the truck, but the SPID is fake (ok, I THINK the SPID is fake). Incorrect font. I don't believe "CPMFORT TILT STEERING" or "CHEYENNE SUPER SPOT" were ever factory options, unless Spot was the dog that came with the truck. And there should always be 6 digits after the assembly plant, not 5. Like I said, MAYBE the truck is real and they just did a poor job of repro-ing the SPID. But if I wanted a real Cheyenne Super, I'd confirm with a build sheet or very detailed owner records before buying. If you just like the truck, and it is quite nice, then go for it if the price is right. All I know is it's a swb done up like a Cheyenne Super (perhaps a real one) and the only trim item missing is the bright cover on the tailgate handle. I can't see the glovebox door front, but most all other Cheyenne Super tell-tales are present.

EDIT: I missed the gb door - it is shown in 1 pic, and it has the correct woodgrain and aluminum insert.

lifeinak · 01-25-2015, 01:25 AM

Shouldn't the mirror be on the windshield on a 72. Also I agree the build sheet looks fake/ wrong. Still it may be a nice truck hiding in there.

Nitis · 01-25-2015, 02:21 AM

I'm baffled. 72 door panels. Can't tell if they are 72 door for sure or not. Spid looks fake. Mirror on ceiling?

Nice truck in the end.

**special-K** · 01-25-2015, 09:55 AM

There are "fake" SPIDs and there are ones that were "redone". There is a difference

Trixxterr · 01-27-2015, 05:16 PM

I do believe that is the wrong font. And on my 72, Cheyenne Super. It is abbreviated as... Cheyenne Super Spor. Plus the mirror being on the roof is completely and totally wrong for a 72. It never happened from the factory.

**leddzepp** · 01-27-2015, 05:24 PM

Great looking truck! I wouldn't let a sticker deter me from buying it.

Looks like a boardmembers truck too...

Harris57 · 01-27-2015, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitis

I'm baffled. 72 door panels. Can't tell if they are 72 door for sure or not. Spid looks fake. Mirror on ceiling?

Nice truck in the end.

I put 72 doors on my truck and they have a screw under the vent window to hold the door together better on the top front. On my 71 doors, the spot weld came apart on the reinforcement and they tend to open up where the window felts are. They also have the correct holes for the door panel clips. I attached a file photo to show it.

Trixxterr · 01-27-2015, 08:56 PM

Harris57, speaks the truth.

davepl · 01-27-2015, 09:05 PM

Auction was taken down. The SPID is faker than fake. I prefer an obvious fake to a well done fake. I'm ambivalent on the fake SPIDs we have available to us, as they're as close to perfect as you're going to get.

I argue the SPID reproducers should have a page listing the VINs they have issued replacement SPIDs for.

Only helps the price for guys like me who have the actual build sheet :-)

Who goes to the trouble of badly faking a SPID on a laser printer with proportional fonts and then clips text and inserts typos for that feeling of originality? Or maybe they were just sloppy and have bad spelling, I don't know.

That Harris truck above is beautiful. I just realized I have one of those wheels, came on my Camaro but was incorrect, so replaced it with the correct Rosewood. But it looks nice in your truck, and better yet - mine's blue, same as my truck. Just need a quick-disconnect to go between bus-driver and small wheel.

cigar- · 01-27-2015, 10:09 PM

Ok....I'm dumber than a drill bit....

What the heck is a SPID ????

**Already Gone** · 01-27-2015, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cigar-

Ok....I'm dumber than a drill bit....

What the heck is a SPID ????

The label on the inside of the glove box door. it means

Service Parts Identification and i'm not sure what the D is for but I'm thinking decal or detail..

hugger6933 · 01-27-2015, 10:31 PM

It is the label that goes in the glove box that lists all the trucks options. Today they are known as a rpo code sheet and instead of a bunch of written options, they have the factories codes for different options that is standard throughout the whole car line. It is known as a RPO code or regular production order code. Look in the box of your newer truck and see the lines of numbers and letters? that is todays version off the SPID. For instance instead of listing the rear end as a 3:73 rear gear with posi track on two lines as would be on the old spid todays codes say GT4 G80. It is a little fun fact [although kinda useless] that is how the Z28 came about it was gonna be named the panther I think but just right before the press release they change the name and used the rpo code instead Z28. That is also why you see the Z71 on the side of so many trucks that is the suspension package it has but it became more trendy to have instead of a necessity. Jim

**leddzepp** · 01-27-2015, 10:33 PM

Service Parts IDentification

9teen69 · 01-28-2015, 01:17 AM

Super nice looking truck! Just keep the glovebox closed

**special-K** · 01-28-2015, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Already Gone

The label on the inside of the glove box door. it means

Service Parts Identification and i'm not sure what the D is for but I'm thinking decal or detail..

The "D" is for "dentification"

slow-1 · 01-28-2015, 08:47 AM

That's a nice looking truck.

I'd call it a custom spid.

cigar- · 01-28-2015, 07:09 PM

I'd like to thank those that took the time to explain this to a naïve soul such as I.

It's through forums like this that silly fools like me actually become educated and hopefully don't embarrass themselves (much) out here in the world.

Are there ever any local get-togethers for the members from here? I live in Southern California and would enjoy getting to know some guys that have rebuilt these trucks. As I toddle along and have problems and questions, it would be nice to actually show someone what the problem is and get a hands (and eyes) on reply.

Thanks again for all the help

01-25-2015, 12:17 AM	#1
Mapearso Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: los angeles, ca Posts: 926	Is this Cheyenne on eBay a Fake??? The SPID sure looks funky to me.... http://www.ebay.com/itm/191491818407...8407&viewitem=

01-25-2015, 12:29 AM	#2
jocko Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Godley, TX Posts: 17,937	Re: Is this Cheyenne on eBay a Fake??? Not sure about the truck, but the SPID is fake (ok, I THINK the SPID is fake). Incorrect font. I don't believe "CPMFORT TILT STEERING" or "CHEYENNE SUPER SPOT" were ever factory options, unless Spot was the dog that came with the truck. And there should always be 6 digits after the assembly plant, not 5. Like I said, MAYBE the truck is real and they just did a poor job of repro-ing the SPID. But if I wanted a real Cheyenne Super, I'd confirm with a build sheet or very detailed owner records before buying. If you just like the truck, and it is quite nice, then go for it if the price is right. All I know is it's a swb done up like a Cheyenne Super (perhaps a real one) and the only trim item missing is the bright cover on the tailgate handle. I can't see the glovebox door front, but most all other Cheyenne Super tell-tales are present. EDIT: I missed the gb door - it is shown in 1 pic, and it has the correct woodgrain and aluminum insert. Last edited by jocko; 01-25-2015 at 12:40 AM.

01-25-2015, 01:25 AM	#3
lifeinak Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Gold Canyon, AZ Posts: 36	Re: Is this Cheyenne on eBay a Fake??? Shouldn't the mirror be on the windshield on a 72. Also I agree the build sheet looks fake/ wrong. Still it may be a nice truck hiding in there.

01-25-2015, 02:21 AM	#4
Nitis Registered User Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: NOR-CAL Posts: 1,134	Re: Is this Cheyenne on eBay a Fake??? I'm baffled. 72 door panels. Can't tell if they are 72 door for sure or not. Spid looks fake. Mirror on ceiling? Nice truck in the end.

01-25-2015, 09:55 AM	#5
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,863	Re: Is this Cheyenne on eBay a Fake??? There are "fake" SPIDs and there are ones that were "redone". There is a difference __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

01-27-2015, 05:16 PM	#6
Trixxterr Registered User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Burnet,Tx Posts: 57	Re: Is this Cheyenne on eBay a Fake??? I do believe that is the wrong font. And on my 72, Cheyenne Super. It is abbreviated as... Cheyenne Super Spor. Plus the mirror being on the roof is completely and totally wrong for a 72. It never happened from the factory.

01-27-2015, 05:24 PM	#7
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 19,992	Re: Is this Cheyenne on eBay a Fake??? Great looking truck! I wouldn't let a sticker deter me from buying it. Looks like a boardmembers truck too... __________________ 1972 C/10 Cheyenne Super SWB. Restored, loaded, slammed. 1968 C/10 50th Anniversary LWB. Unrestored, stock, daily driver/work truck. RIP ElJay RIP 67ChevyRedneck RIP Grumpy Old Man

01-27-2015, 08:56 PM	#9
Trixxterr Registered User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Burnet,Tx Posts: 57	Re: Is this Cheyenne on eBay a Fake??? Harris57, speaks the truth.

01-27-2015, 09:05 PM	#10
davepl Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 6,332	Re: Is this Cheyenne on eBay a Fake??? Auction was taken down. The SPID is faker than fake. I prefer an obvious fake to a well done fake. I'm ambivalent on the fake SPIDs we have available to us, as they're as close to perfect as you're going to get. I argue the SPID reproducers should have a page listing the VINs they have issued replacement SPIDs for. Only helps the price for guys like me who have the actual build sheet :-) Who goes to the trouble of badly faking a SPID on a laser printer with proportional fonts and then clips text and inserts typos for that feeling of originality? Or maybe they were just sloppy and have bad spelling, I don't know. That Harris truck above is beautiful. I just realized I have one of those wheels, came on my Camaro but was incorrect, so replaced it with the correct Rosewood. But it looks nice in your truck, and better yet - mine's blue, same as my truck. Just need a quick-disconnect to go between bus-driver and small wheel. __________________ 1970 GMC Sierra Grande Custom Camper - Built, not Bought 1969 Pontiac 2+2 427/390 4-speed Coupe 1969 Pontiac 2+2 427/390 4-speed Convertible

01-27-2015, 10:09 PM	#11
cigar- Registered User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: simi valley, ca Posts: 106	Re: Is this Cheyenne on eBay a Fake??? Ok....I'm dumber than a drill bit.... What the heck is a SPID ????

01-27-2015, 10:31 PM	#13
hugger6933 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Marianna Arkansas Posts: 7,259	Re: Is this Cheyenne on eBay a Fake??? It is the label that goes in the glove box that lists all the trucks options. Today they are known as a rpo code sheet and instead of a bunch of written options, they have the factories codes for different options that is standard throughout the whole car line. It is known as a RPO code or regular production order code. Look in the box of your newer truck and see the lines of numbers and letters? that is todays version off the SPID. For instance instead of listing the rear end as a 3:73 rear gear with posi track on two lines as would be on the old spid todays codes say GT4 G80. It is a little fun fact [although kinda useless] that is how the Z28 came about it was gonna be named the panther I think but just right before the press release they change the name and used the rpo code instead Z28. That is also why you see the Z71 on the side of so many trucks that is the suspension package it has but it became more trendy to have instead of a necessity. Jim

01-27-2015, 10:33 PM	#14
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 19,992	Re: Is this Cheyenne on eBay a Fake??? Service Parts IDentification __________________ 1972 C/10 Cheyenne Super SWB. Restored, loaded, slammed. 1968 C/10 50th Anniversary LWB. Unrestored, stock, daily driver/work truck. RIP ElJay RIP 67ChevyRedneck RIP Grumpy Old Man

01-28-2015, 01:17 AM	#15
9teen69 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 1,048	Re: Is this Cheyenne on eBay a Fake??? Super nice looking truck! Just keep the glovebox closed __________________ 72 Cheyenne SWB C10 (daily driver) (Super fake cause I just love the glovebox emblem) 70 Camaro RS (frame-off in pieces) 70 Camaro RS (daily driver backup) 69 Custom LWB C10 (son now drives)

01-28-2015, 08:47 AM	#17
slow-1 Registered User Join Date: May 2013 Location: Central NC Posts: 830	Re: Is this Cheyenne on eBay a Fake??? That's a nice looking truck. I'd call it a custom spid. __________________ 1972 Cheyene C-10 "Ole Green" My Grandfathers truck (early 70's to 1983) My first vehicle (1983) Original 350 (3 rebuilds) 700R4 from Bowtie Overdrives

01-28-2015, 07:09 PM	#18
cigar- Registered User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: simi valley, ca Posts: 106	Re: Is this Cheyenne on eBay a Fake??? I'd like to thank those that took the time to explain this to a naïve soul such as I. It's through forums like this that silly fools like me actually become educated and hopefully don't embarrass themselves (much) out here in the world. Are there ever any local get-togethers for the members from here? I live in Southern California and would enjoy getting to know some guys that have rebuilt these trucks. As I toddle along and have problems and questions, it would be nice to actually show someone what the problem is and get a hands (and eyes) on reply. Thanks again for all the help



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