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Old 11-09-2015, 09:25 AM   #26
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Re: Accessory drive brakcets with L99 water pump

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I used the ls simple bracket on my motor and I love it. It came all assembled too so it's really easy to install.

Thanks I guess I do not know what I am looking at!

Maybe I am seeing a idler pulley and not a PS pump

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Old 11-09-2015, 06:31 PM   #27
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Re: Accessory drive brakcets with L99 water pump

Solid, Go to the LS Simple web site and look under the the truck kits. there you will see with or without PWR steering pump.
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Old 11-09-2015, 06:45 PM   #28
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Thanks I guess I do not know what I am looking at!

Maybe I am seeing a idler pulley and not a PS pump

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Correct it's an idler pulley. No ps pump on my motor. Call ls simple and the owner will let you know exactly what you'll need. He's very helpful and has great customer service!
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Old 11-09-2015, 09:35 PM   #29
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Re: Accessory drive brakcets with L99 water pump

Aod92 does your water pump work with the truck crank pulley? Meaning does the belt line up from the water pump pulley to the truck crank pulley? (That is assuming you crank pulley is from a truck)
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Old 11-09-2015, 09:39 PM   #30
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Aod92 does your water pump work with the truck crank pulley? Meaning does the belt line up from the water pump pulley to the truck crank pulley? (That is assuming you crank pulley is from a truck)
Yes it does. I'm using a truck crank pulley with a f-body water pump. The water pump has spacers behind it that ls simple also supplied. The spacers even have a threaded port for the steam vent tubes.
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Old 11-10-2015, 02:54 AM   #31
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Thanks for the tip, just checked out there website and I really like this kit!
I am unable to locate this kit on the lssimple website. what is the price you found? i like that!

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Old 11-10-2015, 06:22 PM   #32
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Re: Accessory drive brakcets with L99 water pump

I liked that kit until something was brought to my attention, the belt doesn't have much wrap on the crank pulley and power steering, could shorten the life of the belt and make a mess
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Old 11-11-2015, 02:30 PM   #33
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this is what i used.... I have a 2014 L99



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Old 11-13-2015, 10:22 AM   #34
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Holley setup on a LS1 and a LS3
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Re: Accessory drive brakcets with L99 water pump

Very nice setups. I don't get why the A/C compressor and ALT are so wide compared to the high dollar Vintage Air, Billet Specialties or March Performance setups. Holley and Dingo make some nice, affordable stuff but wish they would tuck things in much closer.
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Old 11-13-2015, 11:00 AM   #36
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Very nice setups. I don't get why the A/C compressor and ALT are so wide compared to the high dollar Vintage Air, Billet Specialties or March Performance setups. Holley and Dingo make some nice, affordable stuff but wish they would tuck things in much closer.
EXACTLY!

I have not got my engine out of the donor yet, but I am wondering what sort of modifications can be made to keep everything tight still use the a/c pump.


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Very nice setups. I don't get why the A/C compressor and ALT are so wide compared to the high dollar Vintage Air, Billet Specialties or March Performance setups. Holley and Dingo make some nice, affordable stuff but wish they would tuck things in much closer.
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EXACTLY!

I have not got my engine out of the donor yet, but I am wondering what sort of modifications can be made to keep everything tight still use the a/c pump.


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The Holley/Dirty Dingo/Allan grove brackets are all designed for simple and somewhat cheaper installation using mostly factory components. You can piece it together and pick and choose whether you want AC or PS, kind of a modular design with an economical price.

Vintage Air/BS and March to a degree started building brackets for early year high end streetrods (20s/30s/40s) that required a compact design and some one-off components. They weren't made with economy of price in mind. You pretty much have to buy their whole kit and you can't just run down to the parts store to buy replacement parts.

Just my $.02, .
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Re: Accessory drive brakcets with L99 water pump

I just called March Performance and talked to a very helpful guy. Seems that the reason they can tuck the ALT and A/C in nice and close is that everything is spaced out from the block more. A/C compressor would hit the passenger head set at Vette or F body spacing. He said that there is 8" from the water pump mounting surface on the block to the pulley. I assume that is the outside face of the pulley. You have to run their water pump also. They press on a different pulley he said. Not fussy on that having to go to them for a new pump if mine fails. Brackets are compatible with a Vintage air A/C compressor but the ALT bracket uses a GM ALT but not a truck or F body ALT. That's how I understood him.

I know I need all the space I can get between the accessories and the rad in my build.

Food for thought.
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Re: Accessory drive brakcets with L99 water pump

Have you looked at Kwick something?
We had to use one of there A/C brackets and a B S hard line from the compressor but it cleared the inner fender
The Alt P/S bracket is truck and truck water pump
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Old 11-14-2015, 04:46 PM   #40
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I used Kwik performance brackets on my AD project.

The routing tag was made by my brother at the shop
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I used Kwik performance brackets on my AD project.

The routing tag was made by my brother at the shop
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That routing tag is really cool
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Re: Accessory drive brakcets with L99 water pump

Haven't seen that setup donandal. Gonna have to pick your head as I'm using C4 stuff too.
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That routing tag is really cool
Yeah,
He's a tool and die maker, and can make some cool things on
their CNC machines that I can't do in my shop.

Plus, he comes up with some cool ideas.

My shop is all old school milling, sawing and lathe equipment.
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The routing tag was made by my brother at the shop
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Kwick must have different brackets for the A/C pump
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I like the routing tag too, thats a nice detail! But on that set up, will you have to pull the radiator hose to get the belt on? That would be a little inconvenient.
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Routing tag is very cool! I felt like making what appears to be a original sticker for 67 showing the routing for the belts
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Went to Pleasanton Goodguys show this weekend and seen this LS3 on a stand I like the accesory drive for the alternator and power steering bracket set up but cant seem to find a part number for the brackets alone. This is the E-Rod motor.
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Old 11-16-2015, 12:29 AM   #48
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Alright found the part number, will a truck harmonic balancer/crank pulley like on a LM7 5.3 work with that style FEAD system?
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I have been looking into this type of stiff for my ls swap too. everything to anything.

BUT i believe the E-ROD is a whole other beast than a typical LS engine. they use their own computers, wires and components that do not seem to be the same as any of the typical production parts. yes the basics seem to be the same, block, head and maybe intake, but looks like the brackets, accessories and other stuff like as mentioned, wire harness, computer, and things like fuel rail, throttle body are all different. it LOOKS like according to the GM performance parts catalog that is. hard to say without hand in hand comparison.

i do like this belt set up but i want to keep my A/C. cool find!
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I like the routing tag too, thats a nice detail! But on that set up, will you have to pull the radiator hose to get the belt on? That would be a little inconvenient.
Yes,
You will have to pull the hose.
You have a good eye for this stuff.

And, it just passes above the air intake by about half an inch.

I am quite happy with the setup so far, but I haven't even run it
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