Was there a COE version of the 67-72's? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

69GMCLonghorn · 10-22-2009, 01:00 PM

I've seen a few websites that deal with the older (30's through 60's) COE trucks. Some of them are just goofy looking, but cool in their own way (kind like ME! HAHA). Just wondered what was available in "our" years, all be them of a heavier duty nature, and if they're worth anything, etc...

**StingRay** · 10-22-2009, 01:14 PM

Yes. There was one for sale around here not that long ago. It didn't have anything that really shared apearances with the conventional trucks in my opinion.

69GMCLonghorn · 10-22-2009, 02:10 PM

Thanks, StingRay! Anybody have any specs, like what engines/transmissions they used?

PanelDeland · 10-22-2009, 07:19 PM

I've mostly seen GMC ones and IIRC they could be had with the same engine choices as the other trucks.They look more like the van than a Pick up.

**68 Stepside** · 10-22-2009, 09:34 PM

I used to drive one on a friends farm when I was a kid. 68 TE60 with a 327/4spd. and a split rear. I found these pics on the site, just to show you what they look like.

Longhorn Man · 10-22-2009, 10:01 PM

i had one on my phone that I deleted today figured I'd never need the pic.
It was a cool old GMC water truck

**special-K** · 10-23-2009, 07:24 AM

Were the Crackerboxes still made in 67-72?Then,there`s always the Astro/Titans.
Here`s another:

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Sorry, Photobucket ripped our picture off and I can't add a new picture in since it's been to long.

69GMCLonghorn · 10-23-2009, 10:41 AM

Cool pics! Thanks guys! I've heard that the 427 that they put in the larger trucks had like a 10 foot stroke on it!! Real stump pullers...

When I was 16, my first job was riding around in the old trams at Universal Studios. One day the tram died out at the end of the back lot. So being guys, we didn't wait for the mechanic, we pulled the engine cover. It had one of these 427's with a monster 4 bbl on it. We used to pull 4 tram cars full of people and luggage up a 13% grade going into the studios with those things! We'd be wide open 15 MPH in 1st gear, but dang if we didn't make it every time!

Now they have these monster turbo diesels with a 5 speed trans that's geared so low that 5th gear wraps out at 25 MPH!!

Dooley · 10-23-2009, 10:48 AM

I've always had a fondness for the "crackerbox" GMC's.

69GMCLonghorn · 10-23-2009, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dooley

I've always had a fondness for the "crackerbox" GMC's.

When they're empty, a guy once told me he could almost get the rear wheels off the ground if he slammed the brakes on hard enough. Not sure if that's a load of bull, but it'd be fun to give it a try!!

There was an old GMC COE dump truck(probably late 40's) near my house for a while. It was in pretty good shape. I always thought that would be a great work truck to do a budget upgrade to. Upgrade the brakes, drop in a mild big block with a decent transmission, add A/C and a nice stereo and have the coolest work truck around!

factorystock · 10-23-2009, 09:20 PM

Nice photo of the authentic "crackerbox", it has the period correct 5 hole wheels.1968 was the last year for this model, in 1969 the Astro was introduced.These were considered COE, cab over engine. The correct name for the other trucks in this thread is "tilt cab". These trucks came out in 1960 and were used to about 1981, till replaced with Japanese Isuzus.The other obscure model was the LCF, Low Cab Forward which ended in 1966. The LCF was replaced with the shorter 92" cabs introduced in 1966 and the 1967 short hood C 50-60's. Unfortunately today, we are in a de-evolutionary state of heavy Chevy and GMC trucks, this weight range have been abandoned.

68 50th · 10-24-2009, 12:21 AM

The 66 Turbo Titan gas turbine truck.

unclewatts · 10-24-2009, 03:41 AM

Wow! I wonder what THAT sounded like?

tcb-1 · 10-24-2009, 03:53 AM

I'd love to own a crackerbox! I always thought they looked tough!!!

ballencd · 03-05-2018, 07:12 PM

Anybody seen anything like this cut and past of a suburban? I'm thinking of converting my 1988 Suburban to a COE style van.

**Steeveedee** · 03-05-2018, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by unclewatts

Wow! I wonder what THAT sounded like?

Like a jet coming down the street! I can just imagine what they had to do to the intakes to keep the thing from snarfing up all the debris in the road, small dogs, kids, etc.

**special-K** · 03-06-2018, 02:13 AM

I think that Suburban turned into a van looks cool but I don't think it's physically possible

ballencd · 03-06-2018, 06:16 PM

I've been wanting to build a 4x4 van for a long time and just saw what looks to be a ford pickup that had been converted to a cab over by deleting the front fenders and hood and moving the grill back to just below the windshield. (See picture below.) I guess it could just be a photo shopped image but hard to tell. My plans were always to build a body somewhat like a Volvo C303 but after seeing the ford picture I got started thinking about doing the same with a Suburban. Thats when I started playing with Suburban pictures and scissors and tape. I have an 1988 that is just itching to get modified.

**Steeveedee** · 03-06-2018, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ballencd

I've been wanting to build a 4x4 van for a long time and just saw what looks to be a ford pickup that had been converted to a cab over by deleting the front fenders and hood and moving the grill back to just below the windshield. (See picture below.) I guess it could just be a photo shopped image but hard to tell. My plans were always to build a body somewhat like a Volvo C303 but after seeing the ford picture I got started thinking about doing the same with a Suburban. Thats when I started playing with Suburban pictures and scissors and tape. I have an 1988 that is just itching to get modified.

That thing is killer cool! I'd love to see something like that in a GM vehicle.

1966 K10 · 03-06-2018, 10:49 PM

Not a COE or LCF but I think more available and easier to convert to regular bed if desired

Green Monster · 03-07-2018, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ballencd

I guess it could just be a photo shopped image but hard to tell.

This is a photoshop image. The powerlines in the background don't line up.

Neat concept though.

yuccales · 03-07-2018, 08:25 AM

Tonka made a little red truck that looked like that Ford.

**special-K** · 03-07-2018, 11:30 AM

These are your cabovers from 67-72 era. The last cabover to share any similarity in sheet metal to light trucks was Advance Designs. Low Cab Forward design took the place of COE in Task Master body style. This continued through the 60-66 body till the '67 when the medium duty conventional cab had the front just slightly snubbed with engine tucked deep into firewall and the COEs took over for any shorter requirements.

These photochops could never work. They make cool pictures but it doesn't take much looking to see they could never be functioning machines as they appear in pictures.

demian5 · 03-07-2018, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ballencd

Anybody seen anything like this cut and past of a suburban? I'm thinking of converting my 1988 Suburban to a COE style van.

When I read this, all I can think of is this would be the result with 4 doors and a different rear end.

ballencd · 03-07-2018, 06:24 PM

I have to say I totally missed the mis-matched power lines in the background but still like the idea. I'm interested to know your thoughts on why it couldn't be done? Difficult maybe, but impossible? Yes, it would look a lot like a standard van but not as tall and way cooler and with 4 doors and barn doors on the back. Making the a/c work might be hard. Making the front windows work might be harder. The rest of it would just be a challenge.

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69GMCLonghorn Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Porter Ranch, CA Posts: 978	Was there a COE version of the 67-72's? I've seen a few websites that deal with the older (30's through 60's) COE trucks. Some of them are just goofy looking, but cool in their own way (kind like ME! HAHA). Just wondered what was available in "our" years, all be them of a heavier duty nature, and if they're worth anything, etc... Last edited by 69GMCLonghorn; 10-22-2009 at 01:01 PM.

10-22-2009, 01:14 PM	#2
StingRay Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Saskatoon,SK,Canada Posts: 2,476	Re: Was there a COE version of the 67-72's? Yes. There was one for sale around here not that long ago. It didn't have anything that really shared apearances with the conventional trucks in my opinion. __________________ Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada

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69GMCLonghorn Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Porter Ranch, CA Posts: 978	Re: Was there a COE version of the 67-72's? Thanks, StingRay! Anybody have any specs, like what engines/transmissions they used?

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special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,863	Re: Was there a COE version of the 67-72's? Were the Crackerboxes still made in 67-72?Then,there`s always the Astro/Titans. Here`s another: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Sorry, Photobucket ripped our picture off and I can't add a new picture in since it's been to long. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~ Last edited by special-K; 03-07-2018 at 09:40 AM.

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69GMCLonghorn Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Porter Ranch, CA Posts: 978	Re: Was there a COE version of the 67-72's? Cool pics! Thanks guys! I've heard that the 427 that they put in the larger trucks had like a 10 foot stroke on it!! Real stump pullers... When I was 16, my first job was riding around in the old trams at Universal Studios. One day the tram died out at the end of the back lot. So being guys, we didn't wait for the mechanic, we pulled the engine cover. It had one of these 427's with a monster 4 bbl on it. We used to pull 4 tram cars full of people and luggage up a 13% grade going into the studios with those things! We'd be wide open 15 MPH in 1st gear, but dang if we didn't make it every time! Now they have these monster turbo diesels with a 5 speed trans that's geared so low that 5th gear wraps out at 25 MPH!! Last edited by 69GMCLonghorn; 10-23-2009 at 10:42 AM.

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factorystock Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: west coast Posts: 3,358	Re: Was there a COE version of the 67-72's? Nice photo of the authentic "crackerbox", it has the period correct 5 hole wheels.1968 was the last year for this model, in 1969 the Astro was introduced.These were considered COE, cab over engine. The correct name for the other trucks in this thread is "tilt cab". These trucks came out in 1960 and were used to about 1981, till replaced with Japanese Isuzus.The other obscure model was the LCF, Low Cab Forward which ended in 1966. The LCF was replaced with the shorter 92" cabs introduced in 1966 and the 1967 short hood C 50-60's. Unfortunately today, we are in a de-evolutionary state of heavy Chevy and GMC trucks, this weight range have been abandoned.

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ballencd Registered User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Columbus, NC Posts: 83	Re: Was there a COE version of the 67-72's? Anybody seen anything like this cut and past of a suburban? I'm thinking of converting my 1988 Suburban to a COE style van. Attached Images __________________ 1983 M35 (bobbed and converted to dump) 1984 M1010 1988 Chevy Suburban (5.7TBI/TH700R4/NP208) 1991 Chevy Suburban (5.7TBI/TH700R4/NP241C)

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ballencd Registered User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Columbus, NC Posts: 83	Re: Was there a COE version of the 67-72's? I've been wanting to build a 4x4 van for a long time and just saw what looks to be a ford pickup that had been converted to a cab over by deleting the front fenders and hood and moving the grill back to just below the windshield. (See picture below.) I guess it could just be a photo shopped image but hard to tell. My plans were always to build a body somewhat like a Volvo C303 but after seeing the ford picture I got started thinking about doing the same with a Suburban. Thats when I started playing with Suburban pictures and scissors and tape. I have an 1988 that is just itching to get modified. Attached Images __________________ 1983 M35 (bobbed and converted to dump) 1984 M1010 1988 Chevy Suburban (5.7TBI/TH700R4/NP208) 1991 Chevy Suburban (5.7TBI/TH700R4/NP241C)

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special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,863	Re: Was there a COE version of the 67-72's? These are your cabovers from 67-72 era. The last cabover to share any similarity in sheet metal to light trucks was Advance Designs. Low Cab Forward design took the place of COE in Task Master body style. This continued through the 60-66 body till the '67 when the medium duty conventional cab had the front just slightly snubbed with engine tucked deep into firewall and the COEs took over for any shorter requirements. These photochops could never work. They make cool pictures but it doesn't take much looking to see they could never be functioning machines as they appear in pictures. Attached Images __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

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ballencd Registered User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Columbus, NC Posts: 83	Re: Was there a COE version of the 67-72's? I have to say I totally missed the mis-matched power lines in the background but still like the idea. I'm interested to know your thoughts on why it couldn't be done? Difficult maybe, but impossible? Yes, it would look a lot like a standard van but not as tall and way cooler and with 4 doors and barn doors on the back. Making the a/c work might be hard. Making the front windows work might be harder. The rest of it would just be a challenge. __________________ 1983 M35 (bobbed and converted to dump) 1984 M1010 1988 Chevy Suburban (5.7TBI/TH700R4/NP208) 1991 Chevy Suburban (5.7TBI/TH700R4/NP241C)

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