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Vapor Locker shoes
Vapor lock issues
I'm at my Wit's End trying to figure this out I have a 1947 thriftmaster with a 235 from 1962 and it has some serious vapor lock issues. I have a new carburetor a new Edelbrock electric fuel pump as well as a new mechanical fuel pump and I continue to have these problems I thought that it might have been the heat Riser stuck and so I had the heat Riser completely removed and I'm still having the issues I'm at my Wit's End and would appreciate any ideas. |
09-21-2019, 12:58 PM | #2 |
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Re: Vapor Locker shoes
Are your fuel lines close to your exhaust system?
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I had a big block in a 56 big window once and ran into that. I used silicon heat shield on the fuel line, fabricated a shield for the fuel pump (exhaust heat) and used a phenolic spacer on the carb. That put that issue to bed.
Depending where your pump is mounted a simple bent piece of sheet metal will work for the shield.
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Fuel line and both fuel pumps are on the opposite side of the motor from the exhaust.
Mechanical pump of course mounted on the Block electric pump about a foot behind it on the frame |
09-21-2019, 03:35 PM | #5 |
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you Might try building a heat shield to isolate the carb from the intake/exhaust manifolds.
Sandwich between the carb and intake. This type can be made from sheet aluminum. Just an example made for a Holley but easy to make. https://www.holley.com/products/fuel...s/parts/108-70 Your timing can effect engine heat which causes vapour lock. Do you have lots of initial timing? |
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What the condition of your fuel tank?
Is tank rusty causing a restricted flow? How is the tank vented? If it is vented by the cap is the vent still working? .
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Tank was painted nice and black when I bought the truck three and a half years ago either a repop or if the original that has been I would assume cleaned out because why would you paint it if you didn't clean it out
I'm pretty sure it's a non-vented system I do have a vented cap and I actually took the cap off and got vapor lock issues with the cap completely off . |
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Just a thought, Is the strainer (sock ) in the tank collapsing and shutting off the fuel flow? I have that happen to me.You run out of fuel but it's not vapor lock.
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09-21-2019, 04:25 PM | #9 |
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Interesting thought do I have to pull the tank?
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09-21-2019, 05:01 PM | #10 |
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The strainer is at the end of the pickup tube inside the tank.
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09-21-2019, 05:35 PM | #11 |
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I live in Las Vegas so of course summers are very hot and most of the issues that I have had is when it is hot yesterday it was only about 85 I took it on a 5-mile run part of it on the freeway at 22 to 2500 rpm and I had no issues at all the truck ran about a hundred and sixty 165 degrees and again no issues it was later on when I was driving it and stop and go when it hit about 200 that the vapor lock issues really started to show. So I'm thinking it's more heat-related then it is the strainer although that's a possibility
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What do you have for a fan?
How many tubes and what style radiator? FWIW electric pumps push better than pull. They need to be as close to the tank as possible. |
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Ya, there's something wrong there. I had a mechanical pump, only on dual Rochester's on my six banger and never had a problem. It was a Vegas truck to begin with also. Sounds like your clogged up somewhere.
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I know that part of my overheat problems are my fan and radiator setup I have a aluminum High Performance Radiator I put a 6 blade flex fan on it but didn't realize that if put it further away from the radiator right now it's about 2 and 3/8 inch away from the radiator and I have an inch and 1/2 spacer to put in haven't done it yet I know that's something I still have to do
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You need a shroud more than you need your fan closer to the rad.
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Any suggestions I don't see anything on the internet.
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A failing ignition coil will start cutting out under higher temperatures. Just an FYI in case you're barking up the wrong tree.
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Thanks for the reply but it's electronic distributor
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Search with ‘google images’ shows lots for fabricated fan shroud.
I’ve had them custom built by a sheetmetal shop. I had them not cut the hole for the fan opening. Cut it myself once I was satisfied with the fit. https://www.google.com/search?tbm=is....5.7-SqAih_4B4 |
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Im curious, why do you have the electric pump if you already have a functioning mechanical pump?
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09-22-2019, 02:55 AM | #22 |
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my mechanic did that as an effort to fix the vapor lock issue I understand is not an uncommon practice.
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09-22-2019, 09:40 AM | #23 |
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If you can do some fabing these kits from speedway would work - https://www.speedwaymotors.com/shop/...m_content=Shop
I like them because the fan isnt always where they put the hole.
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Run a fuel flow test and see if the volume and pressure is sufficient.
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I would get rid of the flex fan especially if it's one of the skinny blade models. The more air moving under the hood the less chance of vapor locking.
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