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Old 08-19-2020, 09:20 AM   #1
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Re: Wanting to go from static to bags (how does this setup sound?)

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Okay, thanks you guys. I didnt even think about the tank leveling off with the bags. Totally slipped my mind. And for the aire jax. They are a common inlet with an interal t for the gauges and a common outlet for venting, as my understanding of them goes. Are those ridetech valves nice? Im up to exploring other options as well!
The Ridetech paddle valves are . . …. Basic. They function & do it well. No electronics to fail. The down sides are you have to run airline into the interior vs. solenoid actuated valves that only require wiring into the interior & they lack the benefit of a computer controlled set-ups auto-leveling/height feature.

Pick your poison. I didn't have ~2k to spend on a better quality air management system & just don't like the cheaper electronic set-ups + required maintenance.

The paddle valves are not much different than your Aire-Jax set-up (which look a lot like a set-up others used to use but had issues with). They're independent vs housed in a manifold.
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Old 08-19-2020, 10:06 AM   #2
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The Ridetech paddle valves are . . …. Basic. They function & do it well. No electronics to fail. The down sides are you have to run airline into the interior vs. solenoid actuated valves that only require wiring into the interior & they lack the benefit of a computer controlled set-ups auto-leveling/height feature.

Pick your poison. I didn't have ~2k to spend on a better quality air management system & just don't like the cheaper electronic set-ups + required maintenance.

The paddle valves are not much different than your Aire-Jax set-up (which look a lot like a set-up others used to use but had issues with). They're independent vs housed in a manifold.
Thanks for your reply! Im in the same boat, i dont want to and dont have a lot of money
to dump a ton into electronic valves and auto level and everything else. I think Ill live with air being in the cab too, I was going that route in the first place. Do you ever have any leaking issues or had one fail?
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Old 08-19-2020, 01:19 PM   #3
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Thanks for your reply! Im in the same boat, i dont want to and dont have a lot of money
to dump a ton into electronic valves and auto level and everything else. I think Ill live with air being in the cab too, I was going that route in the first place. Do you ever have any leaking issues or had one fail?
I've used the Ridetech paddle valves w/o a failure to date. My first one was back in 2000 & that control panel/valve still works today w/zero maintenance. The ones used in my dually have only been in use since ~2014/2015.

I did have an airline crack @ the paddle switch a year or 2 ago but it was the airline failing & not the valve. I use DOT spec airline but the end of that specific line was kinked where I had used it before when testing stuff in the shop.

My dually uses 2qty 3gal aluminum tanks & 2qty Thomas 327 compressors. One tank provides air for the front, the other the rear. The 3gal tanks were easier to position under the bed (smaller OD x longer length) & the Thomas compressors are bang for the buck vs. bling/high CFM.

Again... The downside is the requirement to know & set the height so you don't kill tires. I validated my heights & tire pressures @ all 4 corners at the time of/specifically for the alignment. Around town I have a good idea of where it needs to be but if I plan to get out on the highway, I use a tape measure @ the corners to preserve tire life expectancy.
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I've used the Ridetech paddle valves w/o a failure to date. My first one was back in 2000 & that control panel/valve still works today w/zero maintenance. The ones used in my dually have only been in use since ~2014/2015.

I did have an airline crack @ the paddle switch a year or 2 ago but it was the airline failing & not the valve. I use DOT spec airline but the end of that specific line was kinked where I had used it before when testing stuff in the shop.

My dually uses 2qty 3gal aluminum tanks & 2qty Thomas 327 compressors. One tank provides air for the front, the other the rear. The 3gal tanks were easier to position under the bed (smaller OD x longer length) & the Thomas compressors are bang for the buck vs. bling/high CFM.

Again... The downside is the requirement to know & set the height so you don't kill tires. I validated my heights & tire pressures @ all 4 corners at the time of/specifically for the alignment. Around town I have a good idea of where it needs to be but if I plan to get out on the highway, I use a tape measure @ the corners to preserve tire life expectancy.
Woah thanks! That is all really good info! Thank you, I really appreciate it. I have one last question, do those ridetech valves let you make small adjustments or do you only get all pressure up and all pressure dumping?
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Old 08-19-2020, 11:04 PM   #5
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Woah thanks! That is all really good info! Thank you, I really appreciate it. I have one last question, do those ridetech valves let you make small adjustments or do you only get all pressure up and all pressure dumping?
Push the paddle hard & you get full pressure. Only move it a little & only a small amount of air moves through it. The lines are only 1/4" so it's pretty controlled. My dually goes from planted frame rails to ride height in <30secs. I can easily reduce or add small amounts of air as needed.
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Push the paddle hard & you get full pressure. Only move it a little & only a small amount of air moves through it. The lines are only 1/4" so it's pretty controlled. My dually goes from planted frame rails to ride height in <30secs. I can easily reduce or add small amounts of air as needed.

Awesome. Thank you for all the information on these, I really appreciate it! From what I can figure I can get these plumbed in really easily for what Im planning on, Im going to make a center console and route the airlines in through the old gas tank hole in the back of the cab
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Awesome. Thank you for all the information on these, I really appreciate it! From what I can figure I can get these plumbed in really easily for what Im planning on, Im going to make a center console and route the airlines in through the old gas tank hole in the back of the cab
This is how I did my 68. Used a firewall rubber grommet that had multiple ports in it to fit a hole in the floor & pass my 1/4" In/Out airlines through. All under the seat.

Dually is ran similar (it's all hidden from view).
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