I fought the law and the law won

[El Jay]

Originally Posted by 67_C-30

If that were the extent of it, it would be more tolerable, but where I live the code enforcement officer will walk into your backyard and write you up for things out of sight of anyone. Having a fence or keeping things out of sight isn't good enough anymore. We were at my brother's having a birthday party for his 6 yr old little girl and the kids had all sorts toys out in the yard *LIKE YOU DO AT A B-DAY PARTY!) playing with them, and the CE officer pulled up told me brother he was going to have to clean the yard up. My brother's yard is very nice and neat, and he has no old or junk vehicles, but he is being harrased out of the blue without cause. These pricks walk onto your property and look around at their leisure and there's nothing you can legally (there's that word again) do about it.

I would never compare what is currently going on to Nazi Germany, BUT if anyone here thinks we are not slowly but surely losing rights guaranteed to us by the Constitution, I'll have some of what you're having!

Time to get one big @$$ed overly protective dog and let him roam BEHIND the fence line.

[blazer72]

Originally Posted by 67_C-30

I would never compare what is currently going on to Nazi Germany, BUT if anyone here thinks we are not slowly but surely losing rights guaranteed to us by the Constitution, I'll have some of what you're having!

I could not agree with you more.

[jayharrell]

"Is it legal to put a privacy fence around your place and paint a nice junk yard scene on the outside?"

i like that idea.

[blazer72]

Many members have made reference to intances like that and that it was considered art - so it was ok. I considered having a mural painted on my fence at my first property. I've considered just painting the backside (the complaining neighbor's side) a bright orange or green. Something extremely gaudy.

[jimfulco]

Originally Posted by 72cheysuper

Is it legal to put a privacy fence around your place and paint a nice junk yard scene on the outside?

Screw some real junkyard parts (doors, fenders, etc.) on it for a nice 3-D effect.

[blazer72]

I guess instead of conventional privacy fence panels, I could use steel bed floors.

[bowtieboy93]

i have to say i disagree with shane

i believe anyone can do anything they want on their property (legal permitting)

my neighbors have recently just built a go kart/ quad track in their backyard and no one complains. they let everyone who has a quad in the are to come over and use it.
the housing around this are is booming as much as anywhere else and i have 2of the ugliest houses as my neighbors.

the neighbors shouldnt complain, if blazer 72 was planning on building a fence and the trucks werent causing any harm to anybody, why would it matter? they arent gonna sit there forever. the neighbors can just as easily put up a for sale sign in their yard as you can.

[odog]

I agree with 67_C-30 and something needs to change

[67_C-30]

Originally Posted by bowtieboy93

i have to say i disagree with shane

i believe anyone can do anything they want on their property (legal permitting)

That's the thing though, they have made things that shouldn't be against the law illegal. They are writing new laws everyday to restrict something. Its like the issue of operating a business in a non-commercial zone that came up in this thread. It was not uncommon for Doctors, Lawyers, small stores and service shops, barbers, and the list goes on and on to operate businesses from part of their home years ago, but now everything is zoned in certain classifications, and unless you are get grandfathered in (which they have written laws to cut out most of that now) you cannot do that anymore. We have the right of Free Enterprise, but we have that right ONLY where they tell you can have it. They restrict you to a commercial zone where the cost is astronomical and all your utilities and services are doubled JUST because it is commercial. The service is no different or no better, it just says COMMERCIAL on the account. They have just about cut out the guy who does something on the side from home to make a better life for his family and make a little extra money. That's ILLEGAL now because of zoning. Being a small business owner myself, I know this all too well.

[72lb4x4]

As bad as the above is, think of kids these days. They have it tough in some ways. Xero tolerance at school, etc. A friend was telling me tonight that her/their HOA has made a rule against kids playing by the creek catching crawdads and poking things with sticks. Her son is 10.

Apparently the HOA is concerned about the environmental damage from 10 year olds with sticks... Huh!?

Sorry if its off topic!

[bowtieboy93]

Originally Posted by 72lb4x4

As bad as the above is, think of kids these days. They have it tough in some ways. Xero tolerance at school, etc. A friend was telling me tonight that her/their HOA has made a rule against kids playing by the creek catching crawdads and poking things with sticks. Her son is 10.

Apparently the HOA is concerned about the environmental damage from 10 year olds with sticks... Huh!?

Sorry if its off topic!

i work for a fish company in Ladner (not far from the border) and HOA is not allowing us to fish somethings in Ladner yet they are allowed to in Blaine Washington 30 mins away. they say this due to depletion of fish. I dont think theyve caught on that fish dont know what a border is!

[caminokid]

Originally Posted by Arad68

"Qoute" (And James yours right. We are supposed to live in a free country....but yet we are slowly losing the right to be free. Living in a neighborhood where the neighborhood association... its like living in Nazi Germany here. You cant park on your lawn... God forbid you have a trailer or truck your not using right that minute when they see it. Half of the neighbors here want to do away with the nazis. If I had a way to get a place in the country...I would be out of here.) "Unquote".
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It is not always about some one not liking junk in front of your house. Many crimes are commited with unregistered vehicles. It is a big problem for the police. It is nice to have them around.

I live in a subdivision that has an HOA and they are really cool about people with project vehicles as long as they don't spend an "extended" amount of time in the driveway or street. There is a difference between a junker or parts car/truck and a project vehicle. I have parted out numerous vehicles at my house and have had no complaints. I get it done quickly and don't make a weekly thing out of it.

As to far as this country turning into a Nazi state of some type, I don't think so, as I have seen first hand the effects of a dictatorship on it's people and I really resent this type of comment. This country is nothing like that or is it turning into it.

Although I respect different points of view, I really have to agree with Shane and others on this point.

Well in my situation....it would be different if I had vehicles in the drive with no plates and they didnt run...stuff like that. The project truck is in the garage. The dd is in the driveway...and drives everyday. The only other thing in the drive is the trailer. As of yesterday...finished. What I am talking about is an old man that has nothing better to do then whine all the time ab out everything and get the neighborhood association guy all riled up.

Sorry to have offended you on the Nazi statement. But the neighborhood guy acts like hitler to everyone. Thats why I called this Nazism. It wasnt directed at anyone but this neighborhood. Once again I am sorry to have offended you.

[caminokid]

Originally Posted by 67_C-30

If that were the extent of it, it would be more tolerable, but where I live the code enforcement officer will walk into your backyard and write you up for things out of sight of anyone. Having a fence or keeping things out of sight isn't good enough anymore. We were at my brother's having a birthday party for his 6 yr old little girl and the kids had all sorts toys out in the yard *LIKE YOU DO AT A B-DAY PARTY!) playing with them, and the CE officer pulled up told me brother he was going to have to clean the yard up. My brother's yard is very nice and neat, and he has no old or junk vehicles, but he is being harrased out of the blue without cause. These pricks walk onto your property and look around at their leisure and there's nothing you can legally (there's that word again) do about it.

I would never compare what is currently going on to Nazi Germany, BUT if anyone here thinks we are not slowly but surely losing rights guaranteed to us by the Constitution, I'll have some of what you're having!

Well man, The the thing is....when you get in trouble for parking on your lawn...in the backyard??? If a cop in the state of Illinois thinks your lying to him or her...you can be arrested and charged with a felony for lying to a cop. You have freedom of speech...but if you tell a cop to go f' himself...you can go to jail for disorderly conduct...or verbally assaulting a police officer.

Everyone should be able to get along with their neighbors. But it seems there is one neighbor that will always cause some kind of crap for everyone. This is the first time I have ever been a neighborhood like this. Now I have seen after my mom and dad was divorced...my mom moved into a trailer park...where the rules were so damn stupid...Say if you had a flat tire in your driveway....you couldnt change it there. You had to drive it to the parking lot and change it...and possibly ruin a wheel getting it there. I was doing a tune up on a 70 GTO I had. Plugs wires cap rotor. No biggie. The land lady came over screaming at me I couldnt do that in the drive. I asked her what the f' her problem was and told her she screamed in my face again I would clobber her. I was 17 at the time with a hot head. I know there was no excuse for that. So to add fuel to the fir...I decided to take the whole front end off the GTO and put it in the yard...front yard. The land lady never said anything to me again about minor repairs.

I have problems with people who think they are in charge...people who think you will conform to their standards. I dont think its right. If you are following the law...as in you have your trucks...cars...whatever...and they are plated...then why is these people allowed to bother you?

Guys I am not trying to offend anyone...even though I did one person. I am not the only one in this neighborhood that calls this little Nazi Germany. To fully understand whats going on here...you would have to live here. Not all of this town is like that. I was told if it cant be seen from the street then there is nothing that can be done about it. We wanted to put up a privacy fence....the nosy neighbor wont allow it. He said and I quote...I want to be able to see whats going on over there. Aint none of his damn business whats going on over here.

And James....I got Vicodin all week long cause of my screwed up arm. I was cutting the frame for the trailer and somehow got a piece of metal embedded deep in my arm...and it got infected. They had to cut it out of me...so yeah I have been in real pain.

[haysonj]

One of my neighbors has about 6 cars in his driveway and yard most of the others have at least 3 so they didn't say anything when I did the frame off resto in my driveway. In fact they were always over to see what I was doing. Felt like a community project. I just love good neighbors, known most of them since their kids were in diapers.

[caminokid]

Originally Posted by haysonj

One of my neighbors has about 6 cars in his driveway and yard most of the others have at least 3 so they didn't say anything when I did the frame off resto in my driveway. In fact they were always over to see what I was doing. Felt like a community project. I just love good neighbors, known most of them since their kids were in diapers.

Thats the way neighbors should be!

[milled]

I'd like to see those code inforcement officers visit my old home town of miami. Spefically a place called liberty city and inforce code!! They would be carried out.

Bottom line every year ledislators write more laws inorder to restrice commerce, collect more tax revenue and keep everyone looking the SAME. And they have 1000's of cops willing to inforce any law with deadly force. I think it totally SUCKS and in some situations its enoulf to crack even normal people. Our biggest threat is this new NAZI-save the world party. Thats why I live in the county and if they restrict that then I'll keep moving till I discover freedom.

The bad neighbor thing is fixed by selling you're spread to a large latin american family and the rest is history, they'll wish you were back!

[Shane]

Originally Posted by bowtieboy93

i have to say i disagree with shane

i believe anyone can do anything they want on their property (legal permitting)

Originally Posted by Shane

If it isn't illegal, then by all means, do as you wish and enjoy your freedom and your land. Just as jayharrell stated in an earlier post, if it is illegal and you don't agree with said law or ordinance, then get involved with local politics and have the law / ordinance changed.

Where do we disagree? You said exactly the same thing I did.

[hdflstf]

I've got a couple of neighbors that hate my truck too. It's a daily driver. One goes nuts if I park it in front of her house (on the public street) the other doesn't want me to park on the street in front of my own house - says I need to put it in the driveway. It's ok for her son to park his POS car in front of their house though.
Funny thing is that when something is broken, needs fixed, or they need to borrow tools, I'm the first place they visit. I'm supposed to drop everything to go help. Guess I'm too good of a neighbor to say no D'oh!

[Arad68]

Originally Posted by caminokid

Well in my situation....it would be different if I had vehicles in the drive with no plates and they didnt run...stuff like that. Guys I am not trying to offend anyone...even though I did one person. I am not the only one in this neighborhood that calls this little Nazi Germany. To fully understand whats going on here...you would have to live here. Not all of this town is like that. I was told if it cant be seen from the street then there is nothing that can be done about it. We wanted to put up a privacy fence....the nosy neighbor wont allow it. He said and I quote...I want to be able to see whats going on over there. Aint none of his damn business whats going on over here.

The project truck is in the garage. The dd is in the driveway...and drives everyday. The only other thing in the drive is the trailer. As of yesterday...finished. What I am talking about is an old man that has nothing better to do then whine all the time ab out everything and get the neighborhood association guy all riled up.

Sorry to have offended you on the Nazi statement. But the neighborhood guy acts like hitler to everyone. Thats why I called this Nazism. It wasnt directed at anyone but this neighborhood. Once again I am sorry to have offended you.

Thanks for the apology...That goes a long way showing you have great character and with me if that really matters.

I definitely agree about the old man minding his bussiness, He needs to.

It's never easy dealing with an HOA or the code enforcement officer. I was able to do it by displaying that I didn't fit the stereotype of the people they were trying to change. I presented myself as an honest, law abiding guy with a decent hobby and convincing them that I did care about their cause. In essence I showed them there was room for both of us in the big picture. Now they leave me alone knowing all of this.

I also believe that we are losing some rights promised to us by the Constitution as far as privacy and freedom, but I also feel that it is necesary in weeding out the people that have ill will to our way of life and who we are.

Sorry to hear about your arm I hope it heals better than new.

[ckhd]

Originally Posted by blazer72

I've been considering having somebody paint the mural of exactly what the trucks look like just to piss them off.

Now that's funny!

If I had any painting talent, I'd offer to come paint it for you for free!

[caminokid]

Originally Posted by Arad68

Thanks for the apology...That goes a long way showing you have great character and with me if that really matters.

I definitely agree about the old man minding his bussiness, He needs to.

It's never easy dealing with an HOA or the code enforcement officer. I was able to do it by displaying that I didn't fit the stereotype of the people they were trying to change. I presented myself as an honest, law abiding guy with a decent hobby and convincing them that I did care about their cause. In essence I showed them there was room for both of us in the big picture. Now they leave me alone knowing all of this.

I also believe that we are losing some rights promised to us by the Constitution as far as privacy and freedom, but I also feel that it is necesary in weeding out the people that have ill will to our way of life and who we are.

Sorry to hear about your arm I hope it heals better than new.

Its healing pretty good. As long as I have the pain killers in me...I can do what I am supposed to do. I had the neighbor pacing in his yard today. I took the trailer apart to get the Posi out from under it and put a non posi back in. I even took the bed off...I guess out of spite. It made it easier to get to the trailing arm bolts. The whole time I am out there...the neighbor was pacing back and forth to his garage. When I was done...the trailer was back together and I cleaned up the stuff that was in the trailer...put it right back in it. Nothing left on the ground. I was hoping he was going to come over and tell me I wasnt going to do that....I had everything planned out in my mind of what I was going to say to him. If I was to tell you guys what I was going to say....there would be alot of $^%&^(*()&)(_*)(^&^$^#%#@!

[Arad68]

Originally Posted by caminokid

Its healing pretty good. As long as I have the pain killers in me...I can do what I am supposed to do. I had the neighbor pacing in his yard today. I took the trailer apart to get the Posi out from under it and put a non posi back in. I even took the bed off...I guess out of spite. It made it easier to get to the trailing arm bolts. The whole time I am out there...the neighbor was pacing back and forth to his garage. When I was done...the trailer was back together and I cleaned up the stuff that was in the trailer...put it right back in it. Nothing left on the ground. I was hoping he was going to come over and tell me I wasnt going to do that....I had everything planned out in my mind of what I was going to say to him. If I was to tell you guys what I was going to say....there would be alot of $^%&^(*()&)(_*)(^&^$^#%#@!

That's really funny!!! Sounds like you had a good time. Who knows, In time you might get a laugh out of the old man!!!!

[blazer72]

Well, after 16 hours of cursing, grunting, sweating (90+ degrees), a sunburned neck, and wishing very ill will to the neighbors, 192 feet of 6 foot privacy fence is up.

Grand total: approx. $1600 fencing materials, 24 corona lights (bottled), and 3 gallons of sweat.

I even had a professional fence installer stop by and want to trade a truck for labor - I was in a bad state of mind - I almost did it - but he wanted my best cabbed truck, and my dad's stepside bed. Just couldn't do it. I offered him my extra Jimmy/Blazer, but he wants a stepside.

[El Jay]

I reckon it's time to "uglify" the other side of the fence.

I've always been partial to fluorescent greens, oranges, and purples; all kind of mixed an matched in no particular order.

[blazer72]

Originally Posted by El Jay

I reckon it's time to "uglify" the other side of the fence.

I've always been partial to fluorescent greens, oranges, and purples; all kind of mixed an matched in no particular order.

I like the way you think - we should have a beer sometime.