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R@nger · 04-10-2005, 08:43 PM

I've noticed this little guy ever since I got my truck but never really paid any attention to it. Now I'm starting to wonder what it is.

Thats my gas pedal

just the other side of the previous pic

That little knob slides down when the the gas pedal is floored. It slides down because my gas pedal pushed it down.

Only thing is...the wires go out the firewall and then are all wrapped up and hanging by my brake master cylinder...they aren't hooked up to anything.

Longhorn Man · 04-10-2005, 08:48 PM

kick down switch for the TH400 tranny.
In 71, they started mounting them on the carb.

R@nger · 04-10-2005, 08:52 PM

Oh ok..where do I wire it to?

Sorry for all the questions...my first project car and I'm trying to learn all I can.

LUV2XCLR8 · 04-10-2005, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

kick down switch for the TH400 tranny.
In 71, they started mounting them on the carb.

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jhow66 · 04-10-2005, 11:12 PM

What kind of trans do you have?

R@nger · 04-11-2005, 12:10 AM

Ya know I'll have to check into that tomorrow.

I was given this truck from a friend and he had just gotten it when he gave it to me so I don't exactly know what trans or year engine it has in it.

Like I said, tomorrow I'll go searchin for the engine and transmission number. Where is the transmission number usually located. Oh also, what do you guys recommend to get grease and grime off engine parts. I was gonna break out the can of carb-cleaner, a brush and some soapy water. I have a bit of cleaning to do if I'm going to find these numbers.

CHEVY & GMC FOREVER · 04-11-2005, 12:59 AM

Easiest way to tell what type of tranny you have is to look at the pan on the tranny undernieth, if it is in the shape of a square with one side kind of missing= TH350, if the under part looks kinda like the state of texas= TH400.

sdkid · 04-11-2005, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by CHEVY & GMC FOREVER

Easiest way to tell what type of tranny you have is to look at the pan on the tranny undernieth, if it is in the shape of a square with one side kind of missing= TH350, if the under part looks kinda like the state of texas= TH400.

I've never heard the 400 described like that before. Works though. I'll remember it next time i describe it.

Russell · 04-11-2005, 01:16 AM

My 80 GMC has a similar slider switch for it's TH400 kickdown

Infact, I have yet to see a TH400 equipped truck with the kickdown on the carb...

R@nger · 04-11-2005, 01:34 AM

Hmmm cool tip chevy...in that case I have the TH350. When I'm looking at it from underneath the bottom left corner looks cut-off.

Can I still wire the kick down switch to it?

I'll tell ya guys...I've learned so much in just the few days I've been a member here. I'm loving it..ty very much for all your help

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TugOwar · 04-11-2005, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by R@nger

Oh also, what do you guys recommend to get grease and grime off engine parts.

Dollar store oven cleaner = cheap, effective.

**tnblazerk5** · 04-11-2005, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TugOwar

Dollar store oven cleaner = cheap, effective.

just dont leave it on there to long it will eat the paint off to if you do leave it on there to long or at least mine did

Bob Moore · 04-11-2005, 11:34 AM

Andy got it wrong - hard to believe. Maybe he typed it wrong. 67-70 and kick-down on CARB. 71-72 had kick-down in CAB. When they changed to the throttle cable the kick-down changed also. A T350 uses a cable for kick-down not electric.

R@nger · 04-11-2005, 11:39 AM

So is there anyway for me to put a kickdown in my cab...even though it's set up for a TH400?

Longhorn Man · 04-11-2005, 09:25 PM

Bob...you are right. I did have it confused...not a typo.
You can not use the electric switch for your TH350. If it was installed properly, then there is a cable coming up from the passenger side of the tranny by the dip stick tube going up to the throttle on the drivers side of the cab. This is your kick down. It is often left disconnected in swaps liek this, or never adjusted properly.

R@nger · 04-11-2005, 09:56 PM

I'll check but I can almost guarantee its not there.

Would this be something I could install..if it's not there?

68C15 · 04-11-2005, 10:41 PM

Im guessing the cable is ther laying on top of the trans under the floor where you cant see it. if it was missing alltogether you would have massive amounts of fluid spilling out the hole it fits in (near the cooler line fittings).

pritch · 04-11-2005, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by R@nger

I'll tell ya guys...I've learned so much in just the few days I've been a member here. I'm loving it..ty very much for all your help

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Hey R@NGER-

From another Utahn. Where you at?

R@nger · 04-11-2005, 11:17 PM

Hello..I'm from Ogden.

pritch · 04-11-2005, 11:20 PM

Cool. I live up Coalville way. Between there and Park City.

R@nger · 04-12-2005, 11:01 PM

Ok so today I worked on my truck somemore and found this.

Notice what I believe to be the kick down cable to the right of the transmission dipstick.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...n/IMG_0009.jpg

Ok now I followed that up to my engine and this is where it attached. Notice the distributor to the left and thats the intake manifold right underneath.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...n/IMG_0007.jpg

This is where it went from the last pic. Notice the little guy below the throttle and behind the spring.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...n/IMG_0008.jpg

Would this whole setup be my kick down deal?
If so how do I make sure its adjusted properly?

R@nger · 04-13-2005, 11:08 PM

Any ideas?

Longhorn Man · 04-14-2005, 12:08 AM

Yup... your truck has a TH350 in it...and it used to have a TH400.

R@nger · 04-14-2005, 12:37 AM

Yeah I'm pretty sure my friend's(the one that gave me the truck) uncle did an engine/trans swap.

Would I be correct in thinking those pics are of my kickdown cable?

04-10-2005, 08:43 PM	#1
R@nger Psalm 23 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 360	Some weird throttle...thing...? I've noticed this little guy ever since I got my truck but never really paid any attention to it. Now I'm starting to wonder what it is. Thats my gas pedal just the other side of the previous pic That little knob slides down when the the gas pedal is floored. It slides down because my gas pedal pushed it down. Only thing is...the wires go out the firewall and then are all wrapped up and hanging by my brake master cylinder...they aren't hooked up to anything. __________________ 71 GMC Fleetside C15(cab), 3/4 ton, 350, Holley Street Avenger 570cfm carb, TH350 trans, Leaf-springs, 2WD. "Peter are you sleeping on the job? No I have a bug in my eye and I'm trying to suffocate him." - Family Guy Last edited by R@nger; 04-10-2005 at 08:44 PM.

04-10-2005, 08:52 PM	#3
R@nger Psalm 23 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 360	Oh ok..where do I wire it to? Sorry for all the questions...my first project car and I'm trying to learn all I can. __________________ 71 GMC Fleetside C15(cab), 3/4 ton, 350, Holley Street Avenger 570cfm carb, TH350 trans, Leaf-springs, 2WD. "Peter are you sleeping on the job? No I have a bug in my eye and I'm trying to suffocate him." - Family Guy Last edited by R@nger; 04-10-2005 at 08:59 PM.

04-10-2005, 11:12 PM	#5
jhow66 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Knoxville Tenn. Posts: 3,058	What kind of trans do you have? __________________ 56 Chevy Bel-Air 2dr. HT (purchased new) 71 Chevy Cheyenne SWB PU (502HO) 65 GMC short bed step--work in progress and my gofer

04-11-2005, 12:10 AM	#6
R@nger Psalm 23 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 360	Ya know I'll have to check into that tomorrow. I was given this truck from a friend and he had just gotten it when he gave it to me so I don't exactly know what trans or year engine it has in it. Like I said, tomorrow I'll go searchin for the engine and transmission number. Where is the transmission number usually located. Oh also, what do you guys recommend to get grease and grime off engine parts. I was gonna break out the can of carb-cleaner, a brush and some soapy water. I have a bit of cleaning to do if I'm going to find these numbers. __________________ 71 GMC Fleetside C15(cab), 3/4 ton, 350, Holley Street Avenger 570cfm carb, TH350 trans, Leaf-springs, 2WD. "Peter are you sleeping on the job? No I have a bug in my eye and I'm trying to suffocate him." - Family Guy

04-11-2005, 12:59 AM	#7
CHEVY & GMC FOREVER Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New Lenox,IL Posts: 306	Easiest way to tell what type of tranny you have is to look at the pan on the tranny undernieth, if it is in the shape of a square with one side kind of missing= TH350, if the under part looks kinda like the state of texas= TH400. __________________ 1985 Chevrolet C-30 454 1-TON Dooley 1969 CHEVROLET CST-10 PICK-UP Good memories 1999 Chevrolet Z71 Ext. cab 5.7L Good Memories With a quart of oil, and a gallon of gas, she won't let no other car pass!!!. & FOREVER

04-10-2005, 08:48 PM	#2
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	kick down switch for the TH400 tranny. In 71, they started mounting them on the carb.

04-11-2005, 01:16 AM	#9
Russell Professional Grade Join Date: May 2003 Location: Fort McMurray, Alberta Posts: 7,915	My 80 GMC has a similar slider switch for it's TH400 kickdown Infact, I have yet to see a TH400 equipped truck with the kickdown on the carb... __________________ 1995 Chevrolet 2 Door Tahoe (6.6L LBZ Duramax / ZF6 / NP241 with 1 ton solid axle swap)

04-11-2005, 01:34 AM	#10
R@nger Psalm 23 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 360	Hmmm cool tip chevy...in that case I have the TH350. When I'm looking at it from underneath the bottom left corner looks cut-off. Can I still wire the kick down switch to it? I'll tell ya guys...I've learned so much in just the few days I've been a member here. I'm loving it..ty very much for all your help . __________________ 71 GMC Fleetside C15(cab), 3/4 ton, 350, Holley Street Avenger 570cfm carb, TH350 trans, Leaf-springs, 2WD. "Peter are you sleeping on the job? No I have a bug in my eye and I'm trying to suffocate him." - Family Guy Last edited by R@nger; 04-11-2005 at 01:54 AM.

04-11-2005, 11:34 AM	#13
Bob Moore Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tacoma WA Posts: 1,365	Andy got it wrong - hard to believe. Maybe he typed it wrong. 67-70 and kick-down on CARB. 71-72 had kick-down in CAB. When they changed to the throttle cable the kick-down changed also. A T350 uses a cable for kick-down not electric. __________________ 67 C-20 LWB, tilt, speed alert, vac, 454, T400 67 C-10 SWB, factory air with more to follow

04-11-2005, 11:39 AM	#14
R@nger Psalm 23 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 360	So is there anyway for me to put a kickdown in my cab...even though it's set up for a TH400? __________________ 71 GMC Fleetside C15(cab), 3/4 ton, 350, Holley Street Avenger 570cfm carb, TH350 trans, Leaf-springs, 2WD. "Peter are you sleeping on the job? No I have a bug in my eye and I'm trying to suffocate him." - Family Guy

04-11-2005, 09:25 PM	#15
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Bob...you are right. I did have it confused...not a typo. You can not use the electric switch for your TH350. If it was installed properly, then there is a cable coming up from the passenger side of the tranny by the dip stick tube going up to the throttle on the drivers side of the cab. This is your kick down. It is often left disconnected in swaps liek this, or never adjusted properly.

04-11-2005, 09:56 PM	#16
R@nger Psalm 23 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 360	I'll check but I can almost guarantee its not there. Would this be something I could install..if it's not there? __________________ 71 GMC Fleetside C15(cab), 3/4 ton, 350, Holley Street Avenger 570cfm carb, TH350 trans, Leaf-springs, 2WD. "Peter are you sleeping on the job? No I have a bug in my eye and I'm trying to suffocate him." - Family Guy

04-11-2005, 10:41 PM	#17
68C15 blood type; Retumbo Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: next to my reloading bench Posts: 10,269	Im guessing the cable is ther laying on top of the trans under the floor where you cant see it. if it was missing alltogether you would have massive amounts of fluid spilling out the hole it fits in (near the cooler line fittings). __________________ Man rule #77...if you own a 67 stepside with a caddy 472 you will never be in danger of loosing you man card

04-11-2005, 11:17 PM	#19
R@nger Psalm 23 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 360	Hello..I'm from Ogden. __________________ 71 GMC Fleetside C15(cab), 3/4 ton, 350, Holley Street Avenger 570cfm carb, TH350 trans, Leaf-springs, 2WD. "Peter are you sleeping on the job? No I have a bug in my eye and I'm trying to suffocate him." - Family Guy

04-11-2005, 11:20 PM	#20
pritch Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hoytsville, Utah Posts: 3,365	Cool. I live up Coalville way. Between there and Park City. __________________ '68 Panel Project Boogie Chillin' '68 C-10 Ol' Green



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04-12-2005, 11:01 PM	#21
R@nger Psalm 23 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 360	Ok so today I worked on my truck somemore and found this. Notice what I believe to be the kick down cable to the right of the transmission dipstick. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...n/IMG_0009.jpg Ok now I followed that up to my engine and this is where it attached. Notice the distributor to the left and thats the intake manifold right underneath. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...n/IMG_0007.jpg This is where it went from the last pic. Notice the little guy below the throttle and behind the spring. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...n/IMG_0008.jpg Would this whole setup be my kick down deal? If so how do I make sure its adjusted properly? __________________ 71 GMC Fleetside C15(cab), 3/4 ton, 350, Holley Street Avenger 570cfm carb, TH350 trans, Leaf-springs, 2WD. "Peter are you sleeping on the job? No I have a bug in my eye and I'm trying to suffocate him." - Family Guy Last edited by R@nger; 04-12-2005 at 11:03 PM.

04-13-2005, 11:08 PM	#22
R@nger Psalm 23 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 360	Any ideas? __________________ 71 GMC Fleetside C15(cab), 3/4 ton, 350, Holley Street Avenger 570cfm carb, TH350 trans, Leaf-springs, 2WD. "Peter are you sleeping on the job? No I have a bug in my eye and I'm trying to suffocate him." - Family Guy

04-14-2005, 12:08 AM	#23
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Yup... your truck has a TH350 in it...and it used to have a TH400.

04-14-2005, 12:37 AM	#24
R@nger Psalm 23 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 360	Yeah I'm pretty sure my friend's(the one that gave me the truck) uncle did an engine/trans swap. Would I be correct in thinking those pics are of my kickdown cable? __________________ 71 GMC Fleetside C15(cab), 3/4 ton, 350, Holley Street Avenger 570cfm carb, TH350 trans, Leaf-springs, 2WD. "Peter are you sleeping on the job? No I have a bug in my eye and I'm trying to suffocate him." - Family Guy

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