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mehanso · 02-28-2008, 10:48 AM

OK, so I have a 66 LWB with the 250-6 in it. as I was backing it off the trailer the battery fell over so I shut it down and put the battery back in the correct location but now the truck won't get any power into it at all. I've replaced the battery, starter and solenoid and still absolutely nuttin'
Any help would be great or if someone has a wiring diagram or ANYTHING that would be great. All I can find is an assembly manual someone has listed on Ebay but I would just as soon not pay 150 or so for the book. Thanks all!

jonzcustomshop · 02-28-2008, 11:03 AM

does it have a fuseable link in between the starter and the ignition, if you shorted the system, that would be the first to go. I have burned those out by accidentally crossing a wrench on the terminals.

jonzcustomshop · 02-28-2008, 11:06 AM

and if that is not the problem, get a test light and start chasing where you do/don'thave power. with wiring you can use te process of elimination to find the problem.

60ratrod · 02-28-2008, 11:53 AM

fuseable links suck. if you find one that has the insulation rather hard and crispy with a bulge somewhere in it then that's your suspect. personally if i were to replace a fuseable link i would change it to an inline fuse. also i would check the continuity and resistance on both the positive and negative battery cables. usually when i have some sort of electrical problem i usually try to eliminate the wiring as the cause rather than the part its self. but my thoughts would be battery cables. my guess is those cables were probably on there since the flinstone age and you may have broken wires in the cables. i would check those first then go fuseable link hunting. i have a color coded diagram if you would like me to forward it to you

truckn' · 02-28-2008, 12:05 PM

mehanso I'm too drunk tonight but tomorrow if you don't have a resolve let me know and I will look up the wiring. I have the complete wiring for 64 to 66.

1Bad62Pro/Street · 02-28-2008, 03:28 PM

Ha Ha....I like the Title of this tread! When working on my truck......I tend to say that alot......ha ha

joe231 · 02-28-2008, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 60ratrod

i have a color coded diagram if you would like me to forward it to you

I would like a copy, if it isn't too much trouble

TimE · 02-28-2008, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe231

I would like a copy, if it isn't too much trouble

Me too please!

ClassicAutoResto · 02-28-2008, 09:47 PM

Check the body ground as well, if it pulled off when the battery fell out, could be a source.

mehanso · 02-29-2008, 03:35 AM

Well, I would very much like a diagram if possible. Also, I replaced the battery cables today and nuttin' happened. I think I can find a witch doctor aroiund here somewhere to lend a hand.
Also, what are some of the more popular mods for these things? I was considering just wringing every ounce of performance out of that poor little six but I also have a 396 and th400 in the garage that I'm looking for something to make all obnoxiuos.
Are these things really worth anything restored to bone stock? I don't want to go getting all crazy and screwing up a nice truck otherwise.
Thanks fellas!

mehanso · 02-29-2008, 04:02 AM

And not to make myself out to be too much of a toolbox but where geographically should I be looking for the ignition module? Also, this truck has a brake controller in it that as far as I can see is integral to the wiring. Does anyone else have one of these?

mehanso · 02-29-2008, 07:13 AM

Bump

60ratrod · 02-29-2008, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimE

Me too please!

for those who want copies shoot me an email at aobirdman18@yahoo.com and i'll forward the diagrams to you

b.sharp · 03-01-2008, 05:32 AM

bypass all your ignition wires and either buy a stater gun from parts house or cross the terminals on the starter itself. If you have juice to the starter it will turn over. You may have fried the switch itself.

Latr, I hope you get it fixed.

PA66C20 · 03-01-2008, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mehanso

Well, I would very much like a diagram if possible. Also, I replaced the battery cables today and nuttin' happened. I think I can find a witch doctor aroiund here somewhere to lend a hand.
Also, what are some of the more popular mods for these things? I was considering just wringing every ounce of performance out of that poor little six but I also have a 396 and th400 in the garage that I'm looking for something to make all obnoxiuos.
Are these things really worth anything restored to bone stock? I don't want to go getting all crazy and screwing up a nice truck otherwise.
Thanks fellas!

These trucks are worth more with all the high performance stuff in them. I saw a 1966 C10 LWB on Ebay tonight for $2000. It looked to be worth more then that. With all the high performance stuff in them, they sell for well over $20,000 or at least thats what people are asking for them. I've only paid $400 and $1500 for my 2 but they need some major work. Since the one was a box-of-rust I decided to look into a 4X4 to replace the current frame and boost the value a little bit. I'll never want to get rid of them though.

Tomsriv · 03-01-2008, 10:45 AM

Isn't it funny how these "simple" vehicles can still drive us nuts sometimes.

I would get a Digital Volt/Ohm meter and check to see that you have 12.4 volts to the starter. You should have 12.6 at the battery and a little drop to the starter is ok, but not ideal. Or you could just feel if the wires are getting hot when you hold it in the crank postion.

60ratrod · 03-01-2008, 11:37 AM

hey guys, when you shoot me an email, please send your screen name so i know who i'm talkin to. its nothing personal, just would like to put a name with a name is all. some names i know, others i don't. this is just for my info is all.

thanks

John

mehanso · 03-02-2008, 04:38 AM

I've decided toi part ways with this particular truck. I am getting one from a fella that already has a big block in it and it's a 3/4 ton. My plan is to drop a 1966 Alaskan camper I found on the back of one of these here pick'em up trucks and tow around my little 1965 14' runabout.
Call me corny but I think it would be cool!
So, if you know someone around the seattle tacoma area that wants the truck I'll sell it to them for 250 if they contact me through the owners club.

JohnnyG. · 03-02-2008, 07:02 AM

hey if you havent figured it out yet, heres a suggestion.
we had one at the shop that iwork at the the little ground wire that ran from the - terminal to the sheetmetal right behind the battery was fried. replaced that and it fired right up. didnt understand why but my truck has it too and when i disconnected this wire mine wouldnt fire either.

mehanso · 03-02-2008, 08:48 AM

This thing isn't getting any power at all into it.

mehanso · 03-02-2008, 08:55 AM

When I short across the terminals on the starter the battery starts to make a sizzling sound. It's quite entertaining.

mehanso · 03-03-2008, 05:32 AM

OK, so now I feel like a horses ass. I went out and "hotwired" it and hooked the coil directly to the positive post of the battery and took my screwdriver and shorted the starter and wouldn't you know it, it fired right up and ran like a champ. So, if anyone has a wiring diagram I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks very much for all the assistance guys!

60ratrod · 03-03-2008, 01:02 PM

sorry it took so long to shoot ya the diagram mehanso, i went down to silverdale yesterday to hang out with one of my friends.

02-28-2008, 10:48 AM	#1
mehanso Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Orting, wa Posts: 13	This damn truck!!!!!!!!!! OK, so I have a 66 LWB with the 250-6 in it. as I was backing it off the trailer the battery fell over so I shut it down and put the battery back in the correct location but now the truck won't get any power into it at all. I've replaced the battery, starter and solenoid and still absolutely nuttin' Any help would be great or if someone has a wiring diagram or ANYTHING that would be great. All I can find is an assembly manual someone has listed on Ebay but I would just as soon not pay 150 or so for the book. Thanks all!

02-28-2008, 11:03 AM	#2
jonzcustomshop 1961 crewcab Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: missoula, mt Posts: 6,164	Re: This damn truck!!!!!!!!!! does it have a fuseable link in between the starter and the ignition, if you shorted the system, that would be the first to go. I have burned those out by accidentally crossing a wrench on the terminals.

02-28-2008, 11:06 AM	#3
jonzcustomshop 1961 crewcab Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: missoula, mt Posts: 6,164	Re: This damn truck!!!!!!!!!! and if that is not the problem, get a test light and start chasing where you do/don'thave power. with wiring you can use te process of elimination to find the problem.

02-28-2008, 11:53 AM	#4
60ratrod yes, i do Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Spokane, wa Posts: 2,734	Re: This damn truck!!!!!!!!!! fuseable links suck. if you find one that has the insulation rather hard and crispy with a bulge somewhere in it then that's your suspect. personally if i were to replace a fuseable link i would change it to an inline fuse. also i would check the continuity and resistance on both the positive and negative battery cables. usually when i have some sort of electrical problem i usually try to eliminate the wiring as the cause rather than the part its self. but my thoughts would be battery cables. my guess is those cables were probably on there since the flinstone age and you may have broken wires in the cables. i would check those first then go fuseable link hunting. i have a color coded diagram if you would like me to forward it to you __________________ ERROR 404....... SNAPPY COMEBACK NOT FOUND _______________________________________________________________________________________________ -60 Chevy C10, dead 350/good th350 combo, sitting on a 76 c10 blazer frame, built from 11 different vehicles "the abomination" -07 gmt900 silverado 1500 lt xcab z71, granite blue -81 suzuki gs650g "shelah"- current project -81 kz1000m1 csr "sarge" -next project (just beautification) -07 kawasaki vulcan classic vn900

02-28-2008, 12:05 PM	#5
truckn' Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: rogersville tennessee Posts: 276	Re: This damn truck!!!!!!!!!! mehanso I'm too drunk tonight but tomorrow if you don't have a resolve let me know and I will look up the wiring. I have the complete wiring for 64 to 66.

02-28-2008, 03:28 PM	#6
1Bad62Pro/Street "Where were you in '62?" Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Cleveland County, North Cackalacky Posts: 5,013	Re: This damn truck!!!!!!!!!! Ha Ha....I like the Title of this tread! When working on my truck......I tend to say that alot......ha ha __________________ PROJECT: "FULL METAL YELLOW JACKET" 1962 Chevy C-10 Stepside Shortbed Nostalgia Pro/Street Pickup Truck PROJECT: "FULL METAL YELLOW JACKET Build Thread What Are You Workin' On? - 1Bad62ChevyPickup PROJECT: "TYRANNORAMBLER REX" 1969 AMC Rambler American Nostalgia Pro/Street Youtube Channel: Father Son Projects Youtube Channel: 2TIMOTHY2FITHTEEN "North and South Carolina Folks Click Here!" (((( ~ I have Parts For Sale & Miscellaneous Stuff ~ )))) "Well being as there's no other place around the place, I reckon this must be the place, I reckon...Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk" -Curly Howard Ph.D.

02-28-2008, 09:47 PM	#9
ClassicAutoResto Rust Buster Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lebanon, Ky Posts: 558	Re: This damn truck!!!!!!!!!! Check the body ground as well, if it pulled off when the battery fell out, could be a source.

02-29-2008, 03:35 AM	#10
mehanso Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Orting, wa Posts: 13	Re: This damn truck!!!!!!!!!! Well, I would very much like a diagram if possible. Also, I replaced the battery cables today and nuttin' happened. I think I can find a witch doctor aroiund here somewhere to lend a hand. Also, what are some of the more popular mods for these things? I was considering just wringing every ounce of performance out of that poor little six but I also have a 396 and th400 in the garage that I'm looking for something to make all obnoxiuos. Are these things really worth anything restored to bone stock? I don't want to go getting all crazy and screwing up a nice truck otherwise. Thanks fellas!

02-29-2008, 04:02 AM	#11
mehanso Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Orting, wa Posts: 13	Re: This damn truck!!!!!!!!!! And not to make myself out to be too much of a toolbox but where geographically should I be looking for the ignition module? Also, this truck has a brake controller in it that as far as I can see is integral to the wiring. Does anyone else have one of these? __________________ 2005 Chevy Equinox 2000 F-250 1966 GMC project LWB fleetside 1966 Mustang (For the wife) 2006 Yamaha R6 2006 Yamaha R1 2005 Yamaha R1 2003 Yamaha R1 Last edited by mehanso; 02-29-2008 at 04:04 AM.

02-29-2008, 07:13 AM	#12
mehanso Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Orting, wa Posts: 13	Re: This damn truck!!!!!!!!!! Bump __________________ 2005 Chevy Equinox 2000 F-250 1966 GMC project LWB fleetside 1966 Mustang (For the wife) 2006 Yamaha R6 2006 Yamaha R1 2005 Yamaha R1 2003 Yamaha R1

03-01-2008, 05:32 AM	#14
b.sharp Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Frankfort, Kentucky Posts: 508	Re: This damn truck!!!!!!!!!! bypass all your ignition wires and either buy a stater gun from parts house or cross the terminals on the starter itself. If you have juice to the starter it will turn over. You may have fried the switch itself. Latr, I hope you get it fixed.

03-01-2008, 10:45 AM	#16
Tomsriv Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Camarillo, CA Posts: 257	Re: This damn truck!!!!!!!!!! Isn't it funny how these "simple" vehicles can still drive us nuts sometimes. I would get a Digital Volt/Ohm meter and check to see that you have 12.4 volts to the starter. You should have 12.6 at the battery and a little drop to the starter is ok, but not ideal. Or you could just feel if the wires are getting hot when you hold it in the crank postion.

03-01-2008, 11:37 AM	#17
60ratrod yes, i do Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Spokane, wa Posts: 2,734	Re: This damn truck!!!!!!!!!! hey guys, when you shoot me an email, please send your screen name so i know who i'm talkin to. its nothing personal, just would like to put a name with a name is all. some names i know, others i don't. this is just for my info is all. thanks John __________________ ERROR 404....... SNAPPY COMEBACK NOT FOUND _______________________________________________________________________________________________ -60 Chevy C10, dead 350/good th350 combo, sitting on a 76 c10 blazer frame, built from 11 different vehicles "the abomination" -07 gmt900 silverado 1500 lt xcab z71, granite blue -81 suzuki gs650g "shelah"- current project -81 kz1000m1 csr "sarge" -next project (just beautification) -07 kawasaki vulcan classic vn900

03-02-2008, 04:38 AM	#18
mehanso Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Orting, wa Posts: 13	Re: This damn truck!!!!!!!!!! I've decided toi part ways with this particular truck. I am getting one from a fella that already has a big block in it and it's a 3/4 ton. My plan is to drop a 1966 Alaskan camper I found on the back of one of these here pick'em up trucks and tow around my little 1965 14' runabout. Call me corny but I think it would be cool! So, if you know someone around the seattle tacoma area that wants the truck I'll sell it to them for 250 if they contact me through the owners club. __________________ 2005 Chevy Equinox 2000 F-250 1966 GMC project LWB fleetside 1966 Mustang (For the wife) 2006 Yamaha R6 2006 Yamaha R1 2005 Yamaha R1 2003 Yamaha R1 Last edited by mehanso; 03-02-2008 at 04:42 AM.

03-02-2008, 07:02 AM	#19
JohnnyG. Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: atascadero, Ca Posts: 98	Re: This damn truck!!!!!!!!!! hey if you havent figured it out yet, heres a suggestion. we had one at the shop that iwork at the the little ground wire that ran from the - terminal to the sheetmetal right behind the battery was fried. replaced that and it fired right up. didnt understand why but my truck has it too and when i disconnected this wire mine wouldnt fire either.



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03-02-2008, 08:48 AM	#20
mehanso Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Orting, wa Posts: 13	Re: This damn truck!!!!!!!!!! This thing isn't getting any power at all into it. __________________ 2005 Chevy Equinox 2000 F-250 1966 GMC project LWB fleetside 1966 Mustang (For the wife) 2006 Yamaha R6 2006 Yamaha R1 2005 Yamaha R1 2003 Yamaha R1

03-02-2008, 08:55 AM	#21
mehanso Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Orting, wa Posts: 13	Re: This damn truck!!!!!!!!!! When I short across the terminals on the starter the battery starts to make a sizzling sound. It's quite entertaining. __________________ 2005 Chevy Equinox 2000 F-250 1966 GMC project LWB fleetside 1966 Mustang (For the wife) 2006 Yamaha R6 2006 Yamaha R1 2005 Yamaha R1 2003 Yamaha R1

03-03-2008, 05:32 AM	#22
mehanso Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Orting, wa Posts: 13	Re: This damn truck!!!!!!!!!! OK, so now I feel like a horses ass. I went out and "hotwired" it and hooked the coil directly to the positive post of the battery and took my screwdriver and shorted the starter and wouldn't you know it, it fired right up and ran like a champ. So, if anyone has a wiring diagram I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks very much for all the assistance guys! __________________ 2005 Chevy Equinox 2000 F-250 1966 GMC project LWB fleetside 1966 Mustang (For the wife) 2006 Yamaha R6 2006 Yamaha R1 2005 Yamaha R1 2003 Yamaha R1

03-03-2008, 01:02 PM	#23
60ratrod yes, i do Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Spokane, wa Posts: 2,734	Re: This damn truck!!!!!!!!!! sorry it took so long to shoot ya the diagram mehanso, i went down to silverdale yesterday to hang out with one of my friends. __________________ ERROR 404....... SNAPPY COMEBACK NOT FOUND _______________________________________________________________________________________________ -60 Chevy C10, dead 350/good th350 combo, sitting on a 76 c10 blazer frame, built from 11 different vehicles "the abomination" -07 gmt900 silverado 1500 lt xcab z71, granite blue -81 suzuki gs650g "shelah"- current project -81 kz1000m1 csr "sarge" -next project (just beautification) -07 kawasaki vulcan classic vn900

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