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Old 09-10-2012, 10:01 PM   #1
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resto or not??? original 66 shortbed project

ok,
so here goes, this is an original one owner 66 chevy shortbed. it was my grandpa's west texas farm truck, he passed away back in the early 80's, and it has been with my aunt and uncle ever since. it only has 94,000 original miles on it, numbers matching truck, and has been "restored" ....that was early 90's. The resto was done pretty well, but it is now showing age, and has been sitting for the last 5 years in a carport covered with a tarp. as you can see, the paint still looks pretty good, 2 tone green and white. I just picked it up today, so i have not been able to ID the motor as a 283 or 327. It has (I think) a 2bbl carb on it. it got too dark outside...

My question is this: resto #2? or leave it be and make it driveable? The body is str8, with a very tiny amount of underlying rust on the driver door, otherwise, it is virtually rust free, with the exception of surface rust, etc...minor. No cab corner issues, or any other typical rust like you would normally see on these trucks. It has been taken care of..mostly.The paint looks really good, a couple of small scratches here and there, but no dents, warps, etc.

Now for the good part, it was given to me! I paid $50 to rent a car hauler to get it home...pretty good deal if you ask me..

Back to the point...resto or not?
Its already not orignal in the "pure" sense of the word, because the paint is not original, seat upholstery is not original, etc, etc. I dont see selling it as it was my grandpa's. I have fond memories of riding/playing in it as a litlle kid, I even drove it once or twice back in the 80's.

I do know what im doing as far as resto's and mechanics, as I have done this type of thing a hundred times in the past, so that makes it kind of hard for me to leave it alone, because it does need things, new body rubber, dry rotted tires, greasy motor, and the tranny is out ( powerglide). My issue is once I get going on something like this, I cant stop...lol

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Tough call. Iv'e had my truck since the 1980's and it was unmolested and in original condition. When I restored it I was compelled to keep it that way. I bought another one that was a little so that I would not feel bad changing things up. The decision is yours, you own it.
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Old 09-10-2012, 10:32 PM   #3
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To me, this story is similar to the old couple that buys a nice new car, and spring for the all-leather upholstery, then cover the seats with covers to protect them for the next owners.
What is the sense of having it, if you don't ever get to enjoy it yourself?
I say, do whatever you want to with it, it's yours!
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Old 09-10-2012, 11:25 PM   #4
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ok,
so here goes, this is an original one owner 66 chevy shortbed. it was my grandpa's west texas farm truck, he passed away back in the early 80's, and it has been with my aunt and uncle ever since. it only has 94,000 original miles on it, numbers matching truck, and has been "restored" ....that was early 90's. The resto was done pretty well, but it is now showing age, and has been sitting for the last 5 years in a carport covered with a tarp. as you can see, the paint still looks pretty good, 2 tone green and white. I just picked it up today, so i have not been able to ID the motor as a 283 or 327. It has (I think) a 2bbl carb on it. it got too dark outside...

My question is this: resto #2? or leave it be and make it driveable? The body is str8, with a very tiny amount of underlying rust on the driver door, otherwise, it is virtually rust free, with the exception of surface rust, etc...minor. No cab corner issues, or any other typical rust like you would normally see on these trucks. It has been taken care of..mostly.The paint looks really good, a couple of small scratches here and there, but no dents, warps, etc.

Now for the good part, it was given to me! I paid $50 to rent a car hauler to get it home...pretty good deal if you ask me..

Back to the point...resto or not?
Its already not orignal in the "pure" sense of the word, because the paint is not original, seat upholstery is not original, etc, etc. I dont see selling it as it was my grandpa's. I have fond memories of riding/playing in it as a litlle kid, I even drove it once or twice back in the 80's.

I do know what im doing as far as resto's and mechanics, as I have done this type of thing a hundred times in the past, so that makes it kind of hard for me to leave it alone, because it does need things, new body rubber, dry rotted tires, greasy motor, and the tranny is out ( powerglide). My issue is once I get going on something like this, I cant stop...lol

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Old 09-10-2012, 11:56 PM   #5
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I'd leave it alone... Except for the full bag system, PBfront member, disc front, cleaned up under hood... I'm just saying, I'd leave it alone.
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Old 09-11-2012, 12:42 AM   #6
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You lucky dog! It looks decent as is. I say no harm in redoing or improving where it needs it or where you want it. If you've got tons of time and a pile of money you didn't know what to do with, knock yourself out. Otherwise, enjoy it like it is and repair only as needed ... but uh, lose those caps.
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You lucky dog! It looks decent as is. I say no harm in redoing or improving where it needs it or where you want it. If you've got tons of time and a pile of money you didn't know what to do with, knock yourself out. Otherwise, enjoy it like it is and repair only as needed ... but uh, lose those caps.
couldn't agree more! unless you've got a lot of money to throw at it, I'd just fix what needs to be fixed and enjoy it...i'm curious to know how it looked before the first "restore"...i agree, gotta fix those wheels...such a cool truck though (BBW, short/fleet, factory air, automatic, etc.)...good luck with whatever you decide
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Old 09-11-2012, 06:55 AM   #8
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I say send it to Delmo and put it on the ground! Nice truck you are a lucky dog!
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Old 09-11-2012, 07:04 AM   #9
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You lucky dog! It looks decent as is. I say no harm in redoing or improving where it needs it or where you want it. If you've got tons of time and a pile of money you didn't know what to do with, knock yourself out. Otherwise, enjoy it like it is and repair only as needed ... but uh, lose those caps.
Great advise, drive it and enjoy it. This approach also give you time to think about what you want to do with it. You might find out that you like it just the way it sits, and if you don't you'll know just what mods to make.

Great looking truck either way!
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Flip me that is an awesome truck....
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power disc brakes, drop, white walls, new seals and DRIVE
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Old 09-11-2012, 12:24 PM   #12
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You need to decide what the truck means to you, and how it will give the most enjoyment. Ask yourself what would gramps want? I'll guess bagging it would not be his choice.
Now, as far as being a worthy pure restoration candidate, you can't get much better than that one with how it's optioned. However, I can tell you from experience that once restored you will be less inclined to use it like the truck that it is. Either way you scored on a great truck!
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Very Nice... I would get a 73-83 front cross member w/11" rotors and rebuild bushings ball joints tie rod ends add brake booster swap out on a week end. Drive it, enjoy it...
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Dont bag it, over hyped and over done. I'd do a few upgrades. That thing is bad ass.
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Personnaly I would redo the seat - or at least have it steam cleaned, and then if you have time, tools, money, etc..maybe an engine rebuild. other than that leave it be! ...and i like the caps :p

edit: also maybe a good power wash on the underside, a degrease and a good coat of paint for the bottom? They didnt really have the range of ruberized undercoats and "tuff liner" paints then at the availability we have now.
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Yeah, bagging it wouldnt be his choice, and its not mine either, I may drop it just a touch, but bagging/slamming it just isnt my style. I'm all about subtle custom.

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Now, as far as being a worthy pure restoration candidate, you can't get much better than that one with how it's optioned. However, I can tell you from experience that once restored you will be less inclined to use it like the truck that it is. Either way you scored on a great truck!
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Thanks for all the suggestions guys!

One thing for sure, I will lose the caps...I never liked those style caps anyway.
And I hate the huge towing mirror on the drivers side, thats gone too. And I dont care for the solid white towing bumper out back either, either needs a stock rear bumper, ar a roll pan.

But I think for now, i'm just going to concentrate on what it needs for now, (tranny, body rubber, tires, new wood for the bed, etc) Once all that is done, I will re think where I want to go with it. I am thinking at least an interior redo, new upholstery on the seat, and maybe carpet, stereo, get rid of the gas tank in the cab and go with a rear mount tank, fix some various dash controls, etc.. I do think I'm going to keep the color scheme, but the engine compartment and engine are going to get re-done for sure.

I just need to get it driveable and legal for now..
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Thanks for all the suggestions guys!

One thing for sure, I will lose the caps...I never liked those style caps anyway.
And I hate the huge towing mirror on the drivers side, thats gone too. And I dont care for the solid white towing bumper out back either, either needs a stock rear bumper, ar a roll pan.

But I think for now, i'm just going to concentrate on what it needs for now, (tranny, body rubber, tires, new wood for the bed, etc) Once all that is done, I will re think where I want to go with it. I am thinking at least an interior redo, new upholstery on the seat, and maybe carpet, stereo, get rid of the gas tank in the cab and go with a rear mount tank, fix some various dash controls, etc.. I do think I'm going to keep the color scheme, but the engine compartment and engine are going to get re-done for sure.

I just need to get it driveable and legal for now..

keeping the bench? or buckets?
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Probably keeping the bench, at least for now.
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I'd definatley change it. Change it't title to my name. Thats a sweet ride.
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Subtle is best anyway. I say fix what needs fixing and keep it like your grandpa had it. Not much respect for old iron anymore among the under 25 crowd. Everyone wants to "improve" on it till it's worthless and any semblance of the majestic creature it started out as is gone.
I think your grandpa would be proud that you didn't hack it up.
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Subtle is best anyway. I say fix what needs fixing and keep it like your grandpa had it. Not much respect for old iron anymore among the under 25 crowd. Everyone wants to "improve" on it till it's worthless and any semblance of the majestic creature it started out as is gone.
I think your grandpa would be proud that you didn't hack it up.
I agree, I'm all about subtle. Im 45 years old, and while I can dig the stuff the younger guys are doing, I do want to retain what the truck was about originally, it just seems like the right thing to do.

I'm pretty sure its going to stay the same color, possibly a fresh paint job, for sure going to get a "correct" seat re-upholster, and I may add carpet as well for the interior.

exterior will get a new wood bed, all new body rubber, and probably some new tires, and some subtle, and appropriate chevy rallys, probably put true dual exhaust and a tranny upgrade. otherwise I think I'm leaning towards a "true" restoration for everything else. Considering a frame off resto...

Just minor upgrades, but it should look very cool and not offend the younger set, or the "purists" either..

I remember grandpa well enogh to know he would approve of what I have in mind, he was a cool guy..
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Looks nice! I would do a partial resto. Like repainting the engine, clean up the interior, wheels and tires, compound and polish and maybe front disk brakes. Or leave it like it is. It looks good right now. You are very lucky to have something in that shape!
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Ok,

So I have decided to do a fresh resto on it, I ended up finding both original (and legible) build sheets in the back and the underside of the seat. It was/is pretty much a fully optioned truck, so I just cant see doing anything other than a resto. Just too much cool OEM stuff on it to not do it, I even found the original ashtray under the seat, just too cool.

I'm going to do it as correctly as possible, but not to a concours level, I just want it to be a daily driver stock truck. I have been looking at all the resto truck pics on here, and these were just beautiful trucks when they were "new", plus, thats how my grandpa bought it, so it would be awesome to make his truck new again. I am going to try to get only oem parts if possible, althogh it really doesnt need much of anything. I will start documenting the progress as i go.
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Ok,

So I have decided to do a fresh resto on it, I ended up finding both original (and legible) build sheets in the back and the underside of the seat. It was/is pretty much a fully optioned truck, so I just cant see doing anything other than a resto. Just too much cool OEM stuff on it to not do it, I even found the original ashtray under the seat, just too cool.

I'm going to do it as correctly as possible, but not to a concours level, I just want it to be a daily driver stock truck. I have been looking at all the resto truck pics on here, and these were just beautiful trucks when they were "new", plus, thats how my grandpa bought it, so it would be awesome to make his truck new again. I am going to try to get only oem parts if possible, althogh it really doesnt need much of anything. I will start documenting the progress as i go.
awesome! so cool that you decided to go this route ...I opted to do something similar with mine since it seems so few are doing it...but yours is more original than mine, with a better background story, not to mention the physcial proof (build sheet) you have ...I want to keep physical appearance as original as possible with mine...but I plan to drive mine as well & decided to upgrade brakes & steering...and I have a '66 327/Powerglide but plan to upgrade to a 700R4 trans....it won't be original in the sense of a purist form, but mostly original with a touch of modern

as for original parts, one guy I can recommend is Tony Smith @ http://www.4-5-6chevytrucks.com/
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